HomeMy WebLinkAbout2021-09-07 Regular Meeting Item#2.
Meridian City Council September 7, 2021.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 6:00 p.m., Tuesday,
September 7, 2021, by Mayor Robert Simison.
Members Present: Robert Simison, Joe Borton, Luke Cavener, Treg Bernt, Jessica
Perreault and Brad Hoaglun.
Members Absent: Liz Strader.
Also present: Chris Johnson, Bill Nary, Sonya Allen, Joe Dodson, Steve Siddoway, Brian
Caldwell, Joe Bongiorno and Dean Willis.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
Liz Strader _X_ Joe Borton
_X_ Brad Hoaglun _X_Treg Bernt
X Jessica Perreault _X Luke Cavener
_X_ Mayor Robert E. Simison
Simison: Council, I will call the meeting to order. For the record it is September 7, 2021,
at 6:00 p.m. We will begin tonight's regular City Council meeting with roll call attendance.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Simison: Next item is the Pledge of Allegiance. If you would all, please, rise and join us
in the pledge.
(Pledge of Allegiance recited.)
COMMUNITY INVOCATION
Simison: Next item is our community invocation, which tonight will be given by Ben Blakey
with Compass Bible Church. If you would all, please, join us in the invocation or take this
as a moment of silence and reflection.
Blakey: Let's pray. Our Father in Heaven, we come to you tonight and we want to thank
you for our community. We want to thank you for the City of Meridian and just the grace
that it is that we get to dwell together in peace and safety and, God, we lift up this group
right now and we lift up this meeting to you, God, for all these individuals involved, Lord,
when the choices they are faced with are those of right and wrong, God, give them
courage and conviction to do what is right and as they deal with so many decisions just
to better and best, God, give them the wisdom to know what is best and to decide what
is best or we think of just the growth in our community and ask, God, that you would just
give them wisdom to lead us through this time. We also just lift up our community and
those that are hurting or those that are sick. God, we pray for your healing and your grace
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and your comfort and we pray for those doctors and nurses and those on the front lines,
God, just for encouragement and strength and protection for them and so we lift up this
community and we lift up this meeting tonight to you and we ask for your blessing in
Jesus's name, amen.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Simison: Thank you. Next item up is the adoption of the agenda.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: Item 7 was updated for those who were looking at a previous agenda, but with
that said, it was -- it was updated and corrected. Just wanted to make that point before
made my motion. With that said, I move that we adopt the agenda as published.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as published. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it and
the agenda is adopted.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
PUBLIC FORUM — Future Meeting Topics
Simison: Mr. Clerk, do we have anyone signed up under public forum?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, we did not.
ACTION ITEMS
1. Request for Reconsideration of City Council's Decision of The Oasis
CR-2021-0004 and CR-2021-0005 by Brian Tsai
Simison: Okay. Then with that we will move into action items this evening. First item up
is a request for reconsideration of City Council's decision of The Oasis, CR-2021-0004
and CR-2021-0005, and turn this over to Mr. Nary.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Oh.
Cavener: I don't mean to usurp Mr. Nary, but before maybe we begin this item I just -- I
wanted to be up front on the record. I wasn't at -- attended this meeting in person. I
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watched the vast majority of it online live from a hotel room in Washington D.C. and, then,
went back a couple days later and watched the entire meeting in its entirety. So, I feel
I'm up to date on this issue and feel that I'm able to participate. But if Members of the
Council have got any concerns I'm happy to be here to discuss it. If not I plan to proceed
as -- as normal.
Simison: Thank you.
Cavener: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Nary.
Nary: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. So, what you have in front of you
is a request from the property owner Mr. Tsai for a reconsideration of the decision made
by the Council in this case. He has raised some issues here in his letter. So, the way our
request for reconsideration process works -- it's not a public hearing, so this written
communication is what you have to make your decision on. If you have any clarifying
questions that you are unclear of that were raised you can certainly ask Mr. Tsai. I believe
he is here. If you have any -- just to clarify it -- again, it's not testimony, there is no
testimony from anyone else either. The decision point for the Council is either to uphold
the decision that was made and deny the request or to reverse the decision that was
made and grant the request and, therefore, then, set it for a new hearing and that would
be a new public hearing that would get noticed and such as we have done previously and
the third option is if you think there is an issue or concern you have about the findings
that were issued in this case that were approved, you could remand it for simply the
findings to be re -- redone, so --
Simison: Thank you, Mr. Nary. Council, any questions for Mr. Nary? Then, Council, I will
turn the conversation over to you for any additional information you need. Clarification.
Comments. Motion. Direction.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: I'm okay to make a motion if there is -- there is not anymore discussion amongst
the body. Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: I move that we deny the request for reconsideration of the City Council decision
of The Oasis, Item No. CR-2021-0004 and CR-2021-0005. With that in mind, Mr. Nary,
do we have to get -- do you need further comment for the record or could we just go off
of what our previous decision was?
Nary: I guess just be clear and I presume this --
Simison: Mr. Nary, before you do that --
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Cavener: Mr. Mayor, I will second the motion.
Simison: Motion and second.
Nary: Thank you. Sorry. I apologize. I'm assuming that you have reviewed this letter
and don't -- and don't believe it's risen to the level that requires a reversal. I know that
was implied, but I just wanted to be sure that's -- that was the basis, so --
Bernt: That's exactly right. Second agree?
Cavener: Yes.
Simison: Is there discussion? Councilman Borton?
Borton: Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I -- I looked at that August 27th, 2021, letter that
Mr. Tsai provided for the request for reconsideration and -- and it raised some -- some --
some kind of procedural and substantive questions that -- that I think were the basis of
their reconsideration, but when I looked at what -- what took place at the public hearing
and -- and the volume of information that the Council was provided, both from the public
and from the applicant, I agree with the motion maker, I think that record sufficiently
explained the -- the dialogue and basis for the ultimate decision that was made, after
gathering all of the input from all the parties involved. Our staff included. So, I didn't find
anything sufficient within the August 27th request for reconsideration that would warrant
changing the decision. So, for all of those reasons and the reasons set forth on the record
at the original hearing, I'm supportive of the motion.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any additional comments or questions on the motion?
Okay. Ask the Clerk to call the roll.
Roll call: Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Bernt, yea; Perreault, yea; Hoaglun, yea; Strader,
absent.
Simison: All ayes and the motion carries. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
2. Public Hearing Continued from July 27, 2021 for ACHD Ustick
Maintenance Facility (H-2021-0029) by Engineering Solutions, LLP,
Located at 3764 W. Ustick Rd.
A. Request: Annexation and Zoning of 30.27 acres of land with a
request for the I-L zoning district for the purpose of constructing an
Ada County Highway District (ACHD) maintenance facility on 23.7
acres.
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Simison: Next item up is a public hearing continued from July 27th, 2021 , for ACHD
Ustick Maintenance Facility, H-2021-0029. I will turn this over to Joe to get some
questions and comments first for --
Dodson: Mr. Mayor, yes. I just wanted to -- if the Council would like me to reiterate
anything from the previous hearing I can, but just I guess to reiterate, we continued it in
order to work with the applicant on ACHD's maintenance facility staff to figure out some
better language. It was my understanding that we came to an agreement on this revised
language in response to that. The ACHD commission sent a letter, as I hope you guys
have all read, that requested a six month continuance from now. So, I believe -- my
understanding, unless something's changed, that the motion tonight that is being
requested by the applicant is to a six month continuance and other than that I do not have
any other updates.
Simison: Thank you. Council, questions for staff?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: So, those letters were dated on this same day, Joe. Is it possible to just-- they
got crossed or were there two different parties -- was -- I guess I'm trying to understand
how we are working on that wording and, then, we get a letter basically back the same
day. So, were the --the different parties that made those decisions aware that, you know,
this was being worked on? Because I believe the letter came from an ACHD
commissioner and not the staff and that the staff was working on those wordings in the
DA provision. So, is that kind of what happened? I'm just trying to understand what's
transpired.
Dodson: Sure. Council Woman Perreault, Mr. Mayor, I can't speak exactly to what
happened behind the scenes for them, but I do know that a few days prior to the first we
were working on the language, semi agreed to it, then, send out that final report. It was
that -- later that day that I believe the applicant Representative Becky and ACHD took
that to the commission and they met on it. So, that's why -- and, then, we quickly did
receive a response back. So, I don't think it was something that they didn't see. My
understanding is that the commission did see that and so the response is based upon
this, as well as probably the overarching discussion.
Simison: Would the applicant like to come forward?
Price: Sure. Steve Price, general counsel for the Ada County Highway District. Mr.
Mayor, Council Members, I'm here really -- the commission has asked for a six month
deferral to May 8th, 2022. 1 think the letter speaks for itself and I'm happy to answer any
questions. I would like to -- in advance I would like to thank your staff, as well as Mr. Nary
for meeting with us and working through some of the issues. But the commission has
decided to go ahead with the letter.
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Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I watched that commission meeting. Can you clarify -- in our -- in our last
hearing and in the letter that we received as well there has been statements made that
the city is requesting an additional amount of -- what's the word? An additional amount
than we -- that--from ACHD because of the nature of what you do beyond what we would
any other applicant for a land use application and I'm wondering if the staff had had an
opportunity to make clear what we would ask any applicant -- any private applicant on a
land use for as far as providing sidewalks and all those things. Has that been clarified?
Is that more clear to the commission and the staff than it was since our meeting?
Price: Mr. Mayor, Councilman Perreault, the -- it's a particular opinion within the district
that a ten million dollar project in our five year work program that's being exacted for a
project that only generates probably two to three hundred trips per day is inappropriate.
I think it's a bad practice. I think the view is it's a bad practice, that as part of any
development application that a condition of that -- a development application is to pick a
project within the five year work program for improvement. That's -- that's a view that's
held by commissioners.
Simison: Council, any additional questions at this time? Okay. Thank you. And with
that, Council, do I have a motion?
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Move that we continue H-2021-0029 -- I guess it would be a six month
continuance. So, that puts it to mid February. I guess maybe we need to have a date
specific? If there is a date --
Simison: We had a date of March 8th?
Nary: Correct.
Simison: On March or May? Which one was it? March 8th.
Borton: To continue it to March 8th, 2022. Thank you.
Hoaglun: I will second the motion.
Simison: Have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on the motion?
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
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Simison: Councilman -- Mr. Nary.
Nary: Would part of that motion be to renotice the project?
Borton: Yes, please.
Hoaglun: Second agrees.
Simison: Second agrees for that. Is there any further discussion? If not, all in favor
signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it and the item is continued. Thank
you.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Bernt: See you guys in a couple weeks.
3. Public Hearing Continued from August 10, 2021 for Woodcrest
Townhomes (H-2021-0015) by Blaine A. Womer Civil Engineering,
Located at 1789 N. Hickory Way
A. Request: Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use
Map to change the future land use designation on 2+/- acres of land
from the Commercial to the Medium High-Density Residential
designation.
B. Request: Rezone of 2.10 acres of land from the L-O (Limited Office)
to the R-15 (Medium High-Density Residential) zoning district
Simison: Next item up is a public hearing continued from August 10th, 2021 , for
Woodcrest Townhomes, H-2021-0015. I will open the continued public hearing with staff
comments.
Allen: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. This application was continued
from the August 10th public hearing in order for the applicant to prepare a parking analysis
for the overall area and that was submitted and is part of the record. The analysis that
was submitted addresses the estimated parking demand for the proposed development
and the existing parking supply and demand on adjacent commercial lots, which
determined there is adequate parking for the overall area. The applicant will provide more
information on this study in their presentation tonight.
Simison: Thank you, Sonya. Council, any questions for staff? And would the applicant
like to come forward.
Womer: Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. Blaine Womer -- oops.
Sorry. Blaine Womer representing the applicant on this project. Our offices are located
at 4355 Emerald Street in Boise and, yes, last time we were here parking -- and the joint
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parking between the two uses seemed to be the topic of hot discussion. So, what was
suggested that we prepare a parking analysis of -- of the entire center, including the
commercial uses, office, and the proposed townhome project. So, that's what you have
before you tonight. I'm happy to go into whatever detail you would like to discuss, but --
but, basically, the study analyzed the parking requirements for the townhome project on
its own and, then, it analyzed the parking uses by going out and actually doing field counts
based on the --the highest and --well, the peak use for the parking lot and the commercial
uses there and that was analyzed and it was found that there was more than sufficient
parking available for the collective uses there, as well as in light of the fact that there is a
reciprocal parking access agreement for those parcels. So, again, I think the study
speaks for itself, but I would certainly be like happy to try to answer any questions the
Council may have.
Simison: Council, questions?
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Mr. Borton.
Borton: Can the applicant or Mr. Nary comment on this cross-parking agreement? Do
you literally have a recorded cross-parking agreement that encumbers the Louie's
property, for example, with a right benefiting their parcel to use their parking?
Womer: Actually, yes, there is a cross-parking agreement for the entire commercial
subdivision there and that includes this parcel as well. What we are doing, though,
because our use would be a residential use, we are proposing to have the cross-parking
-- our property removed from that -- from those CC&Rs and, actually, have written into
our CC&Rs the parking in -- anywhere other than the townhome project for the townhome
uses is not allowed. So, the -- I don't know if that answers your question, but, yes, we
are a part of that. There is a -- an existing recorded cross-parking agreement for the
commercial uses that includes this parcel.
Borton: It does. Thank you. I thought that was -- I seem to recall -- I thought that that
was one of the concerns in the prior discussion, whether there was a -- a binding legal
right that encumbers the property or is it just a cooperative friendly agreement.
Womer: No. It's written into the CC&Rs as a recorded document.
Borton: Okay.
Simison: Council, any additional questions for the applicant?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
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Cavener: Blaine, I know one of the other rationale of the continuance was for you to
engage with the neighbors, particularly about the elevations on some of those units that
were going to butt up against the existing neighborhood. I see in the letter to staff you
guys didn't make any changes. I'm just curious if you can give Council a flavor of what
those conversations were like with the neighbors and what ultimately resulted in not
making any changes?
Womer: Well, we are -- we are not not making any changes. What -- what we have
chosen to do is the preliminary plat is going to come back to you with a site plan. It's
going to show the details of the actual dimension setbacks, things that we can get into in
a little more detail with the preliminary plat. We are open to moving things around and
there is -- if the property owners -- any of them that are affected by this want to discuss
that, we are more than happy to discuss it. We just --we still have to get through this part
before we bring a preliminary plat to you.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I just want to make sure to summarize so that I'm understanding, so you are
going to be removed from the cooperative parking agreement with commercial properties.
That's going to be your request.
Womer: That's correct.
Perreault: In your CC&Rs you are going to require all residents to park on property that
is -- that they are permitted to park on within the development.
Womer: Correct.
Perreault: And, then, there are nine additional spaces that aren't dedicated -- dedicated
to a unit.
Womer: Correct.
Perreault: And, then, the parking study analysis that was done says that you should only
need 27 spaces for 19 units.
Womer: Correct.
Perreault: Which is less than what the city is requiring. Is that -- is that right?
Womer: Less than what the city is requiring?
Perreault: Yeah. I -- I can't remember. Sonya, did you put in here how many spaces the
city was requiring in the summary? I don't see it.
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Allen: I don't believe I did. Are you asking about the residential portion of -- the permit?
Perreault: Yeah. Is the city not going to give that number until the plat is proposed or -- I
can't remember off the top of my head what the staff report said.
Allen: Well, the two units -- or two parking spaces are required for each unit. I believe
those -- the applicant can confirm that, but I believe there is garage spaces, as well as
parking pad spaces, and they are in excess of the code requirement.
Perreault: Okay.
Womer: Correct. The -- the actual driveways of each of the units, the two -- the double
car garage will have two, obviously, and the single car garage one and those actually
weren't even taken into account in the study. So, there will be extra parking beyond what
even the study says.
Perreault: The garage spaces were not taken into account?
Womer; Right, because -- well, they counted the garage spaces and they counted the
separate spaces that we have shown on our concept plan, but they did not include the
actual driveways, which will have parking available.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: So, to follow up with that, you -- you have -- so, exactly what is your total, then,
if you are including everything that --
Womer: Well, if you were to --
Perreault: Because --
Womer: We -- we have 40.
Perreault: Yeah.
Womer: Like the study said. But if you were to add the parking literally in front of the
garages as additional parking there would be 31 more spaces. Now, I think that might be
a bit aggressive, because a lot of people that have two car garages park one car in there
while they put all their stuff on the other side. So, I don't know -- I wouldn't stand here
and try to sell you on 31 spaces, but there would probably be a good 15 extra spaces that
this study doesn't address. Probably conservatively so. That's why they did what they
did.
Perreault: Okay. Thank you.
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Simison: Council, any additional questions, comments for the applicant? Okay. Thank
you.
Womer: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council.
Simison: Mr. Clerk, did we have anyone sign up for the public hearing?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, five people signed in. Two stated that they wished to testify. First
Steve Calverley.
Simison: Please come forward and state your name and address for the record, be
recognized for three minutes. Wait -- wait until you get to the microphone, please.
Calverley: Normally you can hear me anyway. 2561 Grapewood. Steve Calverley.
have got a question first. Why would you remove from the reciprocal parking agreement?
That takes a lot of stress off our roads by them being in that reciprocal parking agreement.
I have a lot less fear if they can park at Louie's instead of going on our connecting road.
So, I don't -- I don't understand that. I don't know why that would be to the advantage of
the community or to the vantage of -- of the -- certainly the homeowners. I guess when I
purchased my unit -- I think the terminology is legal certainty and what I don't understand
is that you live a -- live, work, play environment that we have in that neighborhood, we
have got the dining at Louie's -- I don't understand. There is plenty of commercial
opportunity there. You could put a medical office. You could put a bakery, daycare, et
cetera. We have got plenty of new apartments. We have plenty of new townhomes. I
don't know why it has to be there. And I think that that wasn't what was sold to those
neighbors when we all bought our houses and so that's the one thing I just view as -- I
don't understand what the need is and I certainly can't -- I have seen a lot of these type
units coming in and I really don't see that there are sufficient parking and I understand
the 40 parking spots, et cetera, but I haven't seen that work that way, because most of
those people don't park in their garage, they park on the street and so, anyway, that's -- I
think the thing is the live, work, play is the big deal for me, but one thing is I would require
them to not remove from the reciprocal parking agreement. I think that's a big deal for
our neighborhood. Thank you. Questions?
Simison: Council, questions?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Steve -- and I don't mean to put you on the spot, but since you live in the
neighborhood just can maybe help. Are there any homes that take access into their
driveway off in North Hickory? Does North Hickory just serve all your other neighborhood
streets where the homes take their access?
Calverley: I believe that's true.
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Cavener: Okay. Thank you.
Calverley: You bet.
Simison: And just for the record, the -- unless it's in the DA, whatever they do within their
subdivision regarding cross-parking is not subject to the actions of the City Council on
this issue. So, it's really out of our hands to a certain extent, just so you are aware.
Calverley: Okay. Thank you.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Just a question for -- maybe Mr. Nary can comment. The phrase that was just
used reciprocal parking agreement, is that a -- it's not a document I see in the application
anywhere. Is that a recorded document distinct from what's being referenced as a CC&R
obligation?
Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council -- and maybe Sonya might have a different
perspective, but that's all I understand that is. It is part of their CC&Rs for that commercial
subdivision. When this property was annexed in 1992 the city did not require a DA at that
time and so there is no agreement with the city to require cross-parking there. So, there
may be cross-access there, but there -- and the cross-parking may be imposed on
themselves, but it's not a city requirement.
Calverley: One other thing. He did mention the floor unit complex is directly behind my
house. I would have a preference to move that over to the empty field, if they are capable
of doing that. That would be definitely less invasive than having a four unit two story
behind my house.
Simison: Thank you.
Calverley: Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next is David McDonald.
Simison: And if there is anybody online that would like to provide testimony, please, use
the raise your hand feature at the bottom and we can bring you in for comments.
McDonald: Mayor, City Council, I seem like I keep coming to all these hearings, but Dave
McDonald. 2579 East Grapewood. I'm neighbor to Mr. Calverley here. You know, there
is a lot of concerns here that I don't have with -- obviously with the -- you know, the dental
office type model that was slated earlier, but long story short, I did research the original
hearing where it was discussed about the -- the requirements for cross-parking
agreement and removing that sends more red bells up the flagpole, because we definitely
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-- with 4,000 cars on that collector cannot afford any parking on Hickory. It's a disaster if
that would happen. And the cross-parking agreement for the five lots in the subdivision
was recorded as part of the -- the final plat hearing in February 4th, 2003, to be part of
the plat. That was what the discussions were covering as a requirement in that meeting
minute for that hearing. So, with cross-parking -- and the reason why it was put in there
from the meeting minutes was there wasn't enough parking to be contained within the lot
for Louie's restaurant. We needed to spill out into the other lots and we see that. We
know that. Removing the cross-parking and saying that those are available as options
also are seeming to be in -- in contrast to all of these unauthorized parking signs you will
be towed on most --well, all these lots. You can see them prominently on every entrance
for the tanning salon, for the restaurant, for the mortgage place. I think the bank is the
only one that does not have that. I have exposure to human factors and -- and usability
type engineering when the -- when I deal with projects that I deal with. There is always
the issue of what works on paper doesn't necessarily work in real life. Five lots closest to
Louie's, for instance, aren't usable readily for the -- for the residents there because of
accessibility. I'm assuming there is a vinyl fence that's probably going to be blocking off
the gazebo side of this project. I posted a lot of questions on this and, you know, there is
also the questions regarding consistency between the concept plan and the preliminary
plat. If you approve based on the only thing we have right now is the concept plan and
things change significantly, does that violate that consistency requirement? The other
thing about this -- the unit is touting the smaller units as a one bedroom unit. I'm counting
that there should be an office or a second bedroom on those units and the ones that are
being counted as two bedroom units has room for a third bedroom or an office. If you
max out bedroom utility -- because one of the things that I have been looking at is my
example townhomes and if you look at these closely, these renderings match very closely
what this project is. There is a potential of 36 bedrooms if I don't use any of them as
offices for these larger units. There is a potential of 14 bedrooms for the smaller units if I
don't use any of them as offices. If I take ten away because they might be used as offices
or storage or whatever, I'm still more than is being counted as potential people with
requirements for this unit. So, I just urge you to really say does it work in paper. Does it
work in reality. I'm observing from the townhomes that I have been looking at, all of the
parking spaces were used up and they were still parking on the streets adjacent to the
units.
Simison: Council, any questions?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Mr. McDonald; right?
McDonald: Uh-huh.
Cavener: It's nice to have you back here. You know, I have appreciated your testimony
a month ago and when you have been here a few times about different projects that are
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here. I think you bring a certain pragmatism that sometimes we don't always get at City
Council. So, I appreciate you being here. My question is -- is particularly about Hickory
Way, because I think that to me is the biggest area of concern about cars parking there.
We see all the time apartment complexes with ample parking, yet people still park on the
streets, because it's closest to their front door and what -- at least what I'm seeing here
with this particular project is that at least the layout that's before us is there has been
some thought to try and prevent that. I'm just curious as somebody who has watched a
lot of these different projects come in and -- and I'm sympathetic with the concern about
Hickory, is there something that you would rather see done with the layout that would
further prevent additional cars from parking along Hickory?
McDonald: Well, using the example townhome project that I have had, they had little
islands of parking between a few of the units that allowed for eight -- eight vehicles to
park in there. You see the little sliver of four units parking up towards the -- the grassy
area by Hickory, you see the five unit parking area really more convenient to Louie's and
that's typically always filled with Louie's parking right now. I pretty much considered those
a gimme to the Louie's restaurant. I really don't consider those in the location -- unless
they were moved closer to that private drive or at some sort of parking island more
accessible to and from that private drive, it might ease the concern. Thank you.
Simison: Council, any additional questions? Okay. Is there -- so, there is only two that
indicated they wished to testify. Is there anybody else that would like to provide testimony
on this item? Okay. Seeing no one, would the applicant to come forward for final remarks.
Womer: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, Blaine Womer again for the applicant. I
guess what I would say in elaboration with respect to the reciprocal parking agreement is
the reason we are talking about taking it out is because we don't need it. The Institute of
Transportation Engineers has done an awful -- I understand what's on paper may not
always reflect what's going out on the field, but the way you mitigate that is you do the
absolute best you can with respect to field data and that's exactly what happened here.
The traffic engineer that we hired to do this went, met with the restaurant owner, who is
by far the largest user of parking out in this development -- by far as you can see. They
-- they found their -- their -- their peak times, their peak and, then, their second peak.
They went out there and did the counts during those times and they came up with what
they did, which if you read the report gives us a significant margin -- a factor of safety if
you will and so we don't need the reciprocal access agreement, we need 27 spaces.
What we are showing now on the plan is that plus 13 and as we discussed earlier, the
additional driveway potential parking even adds to that. So, there is -- there is no reason
we need to be still as a part of that agreement. That seems to be the biggest concern of
Steve -- and I apologize I didn't get his last name, but Mr. McDonald as well. So, with that
I would be happy to answer any questions the Council may have remaining.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
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Cavener: Blaine, I can't remember, one of the pieces of public testimony touched on a --
there was some concern about a fence being in place that would kind of impede potential
residents from parking in that --those parking stalls near Louie's and being able to access
their home. I didn't see anything that spoke to that, but I very well could have missed
that. Can you elaborate if there is anything articulated or planned to be a vinyl fence or
any type that would prevent people that are parking in those -- the southern stalls from
being able to access the pathway and the gazebo to get to their home?
Womer: No, I don't.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor, a follow up.
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Blaine, apologies if you touched on this a month ago, I missed -- missed this in
the notes potentially. Why not add parking stalls there on that common space that's -- I
don't know.
Womer: Are you talking about the southeasterly portion of the project?
Cavener: Yes.
Womer: No reason we can't. We had to throw out something and we thought that we
came up with a number of spaces, both in that area and, then, a little further north by the
-- closer to where our road intersects Hickory we have I think five spaces there as well
and we just spread those out as best we thought we could for this -- for this plan. There
is nothing keeping us from adding more. Again, that was part of the study is to see what
we really need and I think we are sufficiently parked, but if there is -- if there is some
compromise we need to do and we are open.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor, just for --
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: I do think that you are sufficiently parked on paper. I think you touched on that,
you know, people park in their driveways because their garages are full of stuff. So, I get
you -- you counted garage space, but not drive space. I think that kind of evens out. For
me it's always, again, about -- I touched on this earlier. You got complexes that are --
have the appropriate amount of parking, but it's not in the close proximity to where people
live and so they are always going to find the path of least resistance and I think that
southeast common lot creates some good opportunity for I think a big chunk of your units
for people to park there, as opposed to other places, which, then, kind of exacerbates
and pushes it back --
Womer: The closest distance between two points being that straight line. Right. Yeah.
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Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Perreault.
Perreault: Yeah. In my opinion you are going to -- going to have at least two vehicles per
unit, one bedroom or two bedroom,just depending on, you know, even -- even if you have
a couple that's living in a one bedroom they will probably each have a vehicle and so your
40 spaces are taken up there with your 19 units and, then, that really doesn't leave a
whole lot of room for guests and -- and so -- and I don't know how much you pay attention
to what we do up here with our various applications, but we are consistently having
conversations about there not being enough parking, even when we -- even when
applications are meeting what seems like a reasonable standard and so that's the root of
where this is coming from is that it's a constant conversation we are having here and it's
just that we have scenarios where, you know, it -- there are more people living together
than there ever has been because of the cost of renting and the cost of housing and so
we are preparing for the fact that there may be additional vehicles in multi-family types of
properties than we have accounted for in the past.
Womer: And I know exactly what you are talking about and I certainly am sensitive to
that. I have had quite a bit of experience with subdivisions where the builder came in with
five bedrooms, six bedrooms, because a couple of them are going to be offices or play
rooms or whatever and, then, it turns out that in times when rents get tight that people
start -- more people start moving into the house and pretty soon a two car garage, even
a three car garage with a -- with the driveway up front is not sufficient. So, I think that's
where this project maybe breaks that mold a little bit, just because it doesn't have the
opportunity for the multiple bedrooms. I totally agree that there is every chance in the
world that the one unit or one bedroom unit could have people with two cars, but I think if
that were to happen that, again, we have the -- the garage and the driveway and I think
we still meet what we need to. I am, however, more than happy, as we go through the
preliminary plat process, happy to discuss adding more parking at the southeast corner
there to -- to mitigate some of that.
Simison: Council, any additional questions or comments? Okay. Thank you.
Womer: Thank you.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Just to kick off comment, I -- I'm still lost on this one issue and maybe Sonya can
-- can clarify it, but I just don't see any of the stuff in the record. The staff report references
-- with regards to parking the staff report references a proposed DA provision -- or a DA
with the provision to address the parking, but there is not -- and in the proposed language
I don't think under the CC&Rs are in reference to this development coming out of the
CC&Rs and one of the parking provisions in it. So, we are sort of flying blind to be able
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to articulate any condition that addresses parking specifically, because there is not any
documents to look at. There is no reference to anything or suggested language. So, it's
-- to me it seems super loose and hard to define.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Yeah. Just to kind of -- got a lot of loose ends here and want to make sure we
-- we understand moving forward what possibly could happen. You know, we have got A
and B here in front of us, amendment to the Comprehensive Plan future land use map,
changing some of the property from commercial to medium high density and also
rezoning 2.1 acres from limited office to R-15, medium identity residential. So, it's -- it's
going from a commercial office property to -- to residential would be what we are looking
at and we had concerns about parking from the commercial areas and how that would
impact if this does become residential, would there be spillover from that into the
residential. So, they brought forward the parking plan and --which seems to say that, no,
there is not going to be a conflict of those overflows from commercial to -- to residential.
So, now it sounds like we are -- we are also -- and rightly so -- concerned about, well,
what will the impact be for residents, you know, going into commercial, should there be
that cross-access agreement, cross-parking agreement and in some ways I think that's a
protection for residents that not -- to have that, but I don't know and I guess are the
questions we are trying to answer at that next stage for when this comes before us for
preliminary plat and we go, no, we need more parking here, you need to move that there.
Residents don't want that there. They don't want a two story, they want single story and
all those things. However, I'm versed enough in this to know that sometimes when --
when you are -- you are changing the comp plan and the rezone that's when you can do
the things that need to be done, but -- and I don't know if this is Sonya or Bill, when we
go to that, if -- if we go to that next step, is that something that we can really work on
mitigation of some of those other details? I mean to me what they are asking for -- it
hasn't been commercial for many, many, many years and it's not likely to go commercial.
So, what do we do with that land. Is the request for residential appropriate and as we are
moving forward we wanted that parking study. That is done that showed there isn't an
impact, so where does that leave us? Nope, it's going to remain commercial or do we
move forward to the next step, but, then, how do we mitigate the issues that are being
brought up now based on this site plan, which may change when the applicant comes
forward to us next time. So, how much -- how much pull do we have in the next step if
we are to go to that next step?
Allen: Mr. Mayor, Councilman Hoaglun, all good thoughts and questions and
considerations. Right now this is just a rezone request, so it is just a conceptual
development plan. So, if there is something you don't like about it it should be pointed
out and maybe corrections made to the plan or conditions placed in the development
agreement accordingly. However, staff will be looking at the parking to make sure it meets
the minimum standards with the preliminary plat application, which will also go before you
and you will have an opportunity then to comment. But, like you said, now is your
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opportunity if you want anything in the development agreement above and beyond our
minimum standards to place it in the -- the development agreement. If we wait until the
preliminary plat level we really don't have that ability at that time, it's just more if they are
meeting the minimum standards or not. Mr. Nary, if you have anything else to add.
Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. I would agree with Sonya. I mean, again, the
opportunity to form the DA is now with the -- with the rezone. Again, I think the conflict or
concerns were expressed at the last hearing was, again, you can restrict this property
and what they can do, but we cannot restrict the adjacent property and so that concern
about the commercial spillover was what the Council discussed at that time. Again, we
can't really effect that. We can't effect this one. But, again, you have heard both good
and bad on that, too, so --
Simison: So -- so, Council, I'm going to add nothing of value to this conversation, but --
but sometimes I think it needs to be said just from a very practical standpoint, whether or
not the rezone and you want to move forward. I just encourage the owners of Louie's,
whoever is managing this area to be very diligent in working with one another, because I
am really concerned when I see all these unauthorized parking signs. This development
once developed is going to impact Louie's more than it's going to impact the residents
that live here, because it's going to push people from where they are currently parking
into other places they have not parked before. I was at Louie's for lunch attending the
Kiwanis this last week and University of Idaho was there and others were there. It's busy
during that time frame and people are parking in this dirt lot currently. So, what's going
to change the area as this area redevelops? I think people that are having businesses
there and living there are just going to be very cognizant to work together to figure out
how it's going to impact whatever occurs, because it's not going to be the same. You
know, people from Louie's are going to have to go to a different area to park if there are
not a lot of cross-access into these areas and the people here can't cross-access into
Louie's, they might have to go over to the Meridian Trophies -- well, are they going to get
-- get towed? We don't want that to happen. I think that's the end result of whatever
decisions are made. We want people to have adequate parking. We want people to
access all these restaurants. We want people to be able to get into their homes and have
neighbors over in the evening. Working together to try to figure that out as -- as this
moves forward I think is an important part to make sure parking is in the right place for
the right reasons at the right times. So, little value, but I just want it to be said that I think
there are solutions here, but you are going to have to work together to figure it out.
Otherwise, it's going to create a big mess in the future and since we don't have a DA
agreement or provision, the city's involvement -- and that is going to be very limited from
that standpoint and it will create unhappy residents, it will create unhappy customers and
that's what we want to avoid.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: Amen, brother. You nailed it right on the dot. Good job. Great explanation.
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Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: We haven't closed this public hearing, so I wouldn't mind hearing from Blaine.
What --
Simison: And I think maybe -- you might have someone over here that's part of your team
that would like to speak as well.
Hoaglun: And my question is, I guess, you know, you see the issue we are wrestling with
here and -- and the DA kind of is the vehicle to allow us to, then, make sure moving
forward things are going to be done appropriately. Now, it's just a matter of figuring out
what--what is appropriately. You know, from your perspective or what the residents there
now, from what the Council sees. So, I look forward to your comments.
Womer: Well, I think we are on the same page, because the -- the project is required to
provide a development agreement and that development agreement is going to be a
document that should have the preliminary plat coming along with it, because there may
be issues that come up during the preliminary plat process that we want to incorporate
into the development agreement. So, I think the development agreement is the way
Sonya has it as a condition of approval and the project itself is perfectly timed. So, I just
don't think you would want to enter into a development agreement until the preliminary
plat was completed in process and so it goes along and it tracks simultaneously. So,
that's -- that's my take on it. I just think it would be better for everybody involved, both my
client and the city, to have the development agreement mature as the preliminary plat
process goes through the process, so -- and, again, we are extremely -- we are sensitive
to the parking issue, that's why we had -- we were very encouraged with this report and
not like I said before, it was based -- it's based on -- on -- on real field data and it's not
just out of some book somewhere. So, I hope that answers your question. If there is
anything else I can do before you close the public --
Simison: And I think your applicant wanted to join you at the podium.
Womer: Then I think you are going to hear from Louie. Thank you.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, maybe before the -- the owner comes -- and
Sonya might be able to answer this as well, but maybe the solution to the concerns that
Council has -- because there is no application for this project. There is an application to
change the comp plan and there is an application to rezone. But rezone is when a DA is
allowed. It's hard to form a DA when I don't know what it's going to be. If the Council
desires to simply grant the use -- the change to the Comprehensive Plan to allow them
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to, then, apply -- submit a preliminary plat with the conditions that Planning could, then,
review, that might be a better sequence of this than trying to do a rezone now. I don't
know, Sonya, is that off base? That seems to be like how we would normally go through
the process.
Allen: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, Mr. Nary, yeah, the applicant opted not to
submit a preliminary plat at this time to go with the rezone and the comp plan amendment.
So, yes, typically we would like to see that with the development agreement. The other
-- the other option is to -- and I'm not sure timewise we can do this, Mr. Nary, but to
continue this application out until the preliminary plat catches up with it and act on them
all together.
Nary: Certainly either one of those paths -- but I think that would maybe resolve some of
the concerns is we can tie them together. Right now I don't have anything to tie to it, other
than to say there is a development agreement that will have to be modified again. So,
I'm not sure that that's really fruitful.
Simison: Okay. If you could state your name and address for the record.
Mullane: My name is Louie Mullane. I live in Eagle, Idaho. And I'm the culprit that bought
that property in 1995 and when I bought that property there was seven acres. People
used to hit golf balls in there on that and there are people around here who probably
remember that. There was no roads -- no roads there. We built the restaurant and we
put the road in. They wanted it to come all the way down to Hickory and we followed the
-- what they want and it -- and, then, came D.L. Evans. D.L. Evans built their building.
Ron came and built his building. Is what we created -- and I think I -- I have tried to
explain this to the Council. We have got a runway. They come from the back -- they
already do and I would love to show you. I'm there most days. I grow basil and I grow
the oregano and I'm -- I'm the gardener and I'm the one that cleans the front ditch for the
city constantly and I can tell you exactly what happens day after day after day. They come
up that Hickory Road, they go past -- past the back of Louie's and they are going to lose
that little spot there with this sale and, then, go through the Blazer building -- I still call it
the Blazer building and out. They got three ways. They can go Hickory. They don't do
that very much. They come the Louie's thing and, then, they go through. I need to explain
about eight years ago we had one of our light towers go down and the policemen were
terrific, they found that -- that was not a customer of ours. Those people had put -- the
person that parked there knocked over the tower -- ten thousand dollar light tower. Just
six months ago we had another light tower go down. Again, they were not in Louie's. So,
the way this thing is -- and it -- anyway, they have got complete access to our -- our back
and sometimes somebody's little kid is going to come off there and get hit I'm afraid.
would love you to come and just see what happens. I can show you in a half hour what
happens. It's not -- this building is not going to affect that at all. Obviously. It's already
happened. So, you might as well understand that. They are coming out of -- instead of
going to Hickory and to the stoplight, they are coming through their -- who complains
about the -- the speed bumps. You know why we had to put those speed bumps in?
Because they were coming so fast up that road we did it. So, we are the culprits that built
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the speed bumps to slow things down and we won't put them any lower. They are going
to stay high. They are doing it -- trying to -- trying to be safe -- trying to be good citizens.
We are not -- we are not trying to do anything that hurts anybody. The damage is already
there. I can tell you with this coming through and some of them way too fast and they are
not headed to Louie's, they are headed out on -- and I will guarantee you, the Ewing family
is not going to let that continue I will bet you and you know that -- who owns that property
next and the idea was good in the beginning in 2000. Let's have a road so they can go
down and avoid getting on Fairview and I remember exactly. That's what that was for.
So, we are going to have a back road to catch these buildings behind. My friends it's not
working and I'm just there -- a gardener trying to help a little bit and I'm watching -- I'm --
I'm old, but I'm still aware. I have poor hearing, but good eyes and so that's all I have to
say.
Simison: Thank you. Any --
Mallane: Do you have any questions for me?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: While he's here, Louie, from a parking perspective, you know, you are busy,
you are a great restaurant, we love having you in this community and there are busy
times, but do you think there is still adequate parking? I mean their parking study showed
there is adequate parking. From your just visual perspective still -- still room for -- for
customers to park without having to really -- I mean mainly for convenience reasons they
go out, but for -- for parking, if people want to come to your restaurant, there is room to
park; is that your perspective?
Mallane: Well, we have plenty of parking, you know, and we have a lot of overflow parking
come into our parking lot, which you guys are not -- are all aware of, but the danger I see
is the cars coming through with no intention of looking for a spot. If they were going to
come in and look for a spot they are not going to be going 20, 25, 30 miles an hour, they
are going to be looking -- but if they are not intending to get a parking spot -- I wish you
would see -- just come down and I will show you how fast they go through there. We
need to put speed bumps along there now.
Hoaglun: Well, Mr. Mayor, it's an intriguing invitation, but I'm just afraid that he would put
us to work cleaning out the ditch.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor. Maybe give us some pasta.
Hoaglun: Thank you. Appreciate it.
Simison: Blaine, did you have any additional -- Blaine, do you have any additional
comments? I guess does Council want to hear the -- ask the applicant to respond to what
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Mr. Nary and Sonya were discussing? I guess that would be the question based upon
what was discussed earlier amongst Mr. Nary and Sonya about process to get a little bit
more detail to consider it together.
Womer: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. So, your question to me is what then?
Simison: Mr. Nary, would you like to -- or Sonya which -- what application would you
suggest -- maybe delay this one until it could be brought forward?
Womer: A preliminary plat?
Nary: Well, I -- Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, I think, sir, what--what the suggestion
was -- either to -- Council's willing to consider and address the comp plan amendment to,
then, allow you to apply and, then, to bring forward your application for a preliminary plat
with DA conditions that we could, then, develop as part of that plat, because right now if
we craft a DA for-- for a plat that's undefined it's not going to have a lot in it. It's going to
have to be redone again anyway.
Womer: Right.
Nary: Sonya, alternatively suggested that we continue the entire matter, give you time to
get your preliminary plat, go through the process, let that catch up to this and, then, we
would have that conversation when it's all in front of us. Because normally you get the
use approved for that location, you, then, bring in a plat of what you would like to do to
P&Z Commission and the Council, then, if they agree with that they will make conditions,
we will create a development agreement. We are kind of missing that little piece.
Womer: Well, I -- I think what I suggested earlier would be -- obviously our preference is
to bring the DA to the Planning and Zoning and ultimately the City Council with the
preliminary plat process. I guess I'm not quite understanding why we need to miss the
zone change piece in this.
Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, because the state code allows us to do a
development agreement with a rezone, it doesn't allow us to do a development agreement
with a preliminary plat. So, because we don't have a plat all the DA is going to have is
standard conditions of the city and require it be re-amended when you bring the plat back
and so -- and it only comes to City Council, it doesn't go to the Planning and Zoning
Commission. So, without that piece we are either going to create a development
agreement that has to be done over or we are going to have to wait until we bring your
preliminary plat and, then, do it all at once.
Womer: Okay. I guess through this effort, if -- if that's indeed the case, then, we would
-- at least we would rather not continue this with the preliminary plat. We would like to
see Council's support for the comp plan change and, then, come back if that's the only
way to do it, would, then, be to come back with a development agreement, change of
zone, and preliminary plat, so we are not stretching this out too far, if you will.
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Nary: Yeah. I think, Sonya, that would be the normal course we would recommend I
think.
Allen: Mr. Mayor, excuse me, Council, Mr. Nary. If we do that would you suggest
continuing the rezone application or would they have to resubmit and pay new fees on
the rezone application and, then, a side note that the application file number is associated.
There is only one number associated with both of these subject applications.
Nary: And, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, it's certainly the Council's preference, but
certainly continuing the rezone application to allow the preliminary plat to catch up would
save the additional expense of filing new fees again for the same thing. But they would
still go back together.
Womer: You could just table it off calendar, couldn't you?
Nary: Correct.
Allen: Staff would prefer that option.
Simison: Council, based upon that --
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: So, I don't know if that speeds it up at all, acting on the comp plan amendment
by itself, and I didn't know you could have a comp plan designation of residential use with
a zoning of light office, which is what you would have in the interim. Doing the comp plan
now by itself doesn't accelerate really anything one way or the other, because the ultimate
act would occur at that future date where the rezone and the DA and the plat all come
together. If you had the comp plan amendment with that -- doing it now or doing it then
doesn't -- I don't think changes the pace of any of it.
Womer: Can I address that? It's -- it's a little more than just the pace. The -- certainly
we have all seen situations where there is zoning inconsistencies. That's what
consistency zoning is all about is bringing the zoning in conformance with the comp plan.
The -- the concern we have, of course, is the continued effort, if you will, going through
the process, spending money, and going forward in the development entitlement process
without at least getting some indication that we have a comp plan designation that -- that
conforms to what we are trying to do here. So, it's a little more than just timing.
Borton: Yeah. Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
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Borton: I totally get that. The --just trying to look out for the unintended consequences.
So, you know, the comp plan change might make sense only because your project is
worthy of it. We approve a comp plan change and, then, a future rezone gets denied and
now you have -- you have changed this parcel to be high density residential and some
future applicant could -- so, that's why I think the concept will all go together, because --
I mean up until now there has not been a project worthy of a comp plan change, quite
frankly, and you might have the one that carries the day, so --
Simison: So, Council, what you would think about a ten minute recess to allow staff to
confer with the applicant and come up with the desired path forward together? So, let's
-- let's -- let's do it. We will start with a ten minute recess.
(Recess: 7:07 p.m. to 7:23 p.m.)
Simison: So, we will go ahead and come out of recess and I'm going to ask staff or the
applicant if they have anything that they would like to report back on a path forward --
preferred path forward this evening.
Nary: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. We had a good discussion with
the applicant and the property owner and all that. The -- so, they are suggesting one of
two pathways, both of which are legally compliant, both of which myself and -- and
Planning is comfortable with. One, obviously, is more consistent with our past, but if the
Council is comfortable moving forward, if you are -- if you are supportive of this project,
you can approve the -- you can approve the comp plan amendment to move forward.
That comes back through a resolution. You also can approve a development agreement
with a rezone that ties the rezone to this concept that's in front of you on this application.
So, then, if -- if the -- and they could even limit it even more specifically by the number of
units or the number of parking that needs to be present. That -- that can, then, tie any
other future property owner, so if someone -- this property -- the deal falls through, these
folks aren't the property owners anymore, aren't the developers, anybody else who wants
to come and build would have to build the same thing or they have to come back for a DA
modification. That would come back through ordinance and the ordinance wouldn't go
forward until the development agreement was signed, so you would have some level of
assurance. It would be a little bit like what we have done rarely, but on occasions of,
essentially, approving a bubble plan with generally -- generalized concept of what they
want to do without really building heights, elevations, renderings or that kind of thing.
Secondarily, if the Council is still a little concerned -- I mean they can bring forward the
preliminary plat as -- as Council Member Borton has suggested and just holding these off
until that catches up and, then, that has to go to the Planning and Zoning Commission
first and, then, would come back to you. That's probably a two to three month delay,
potentially, for that. But, again, it would tie it up more -- more tightly, because now you
would have really a plat application, not just a concept plan. But either one of those they
could live with. They prefer the first one versus the second. But both of those would at
least be better in their perspective than a denial and they certainly can live with those
limitations to the development agreement tied to the rezone.
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Simison: Thank you.
Allen: Mr. Mayor, if I may add to that. Members of the Council. There is currently a
development agreement provision that's recommended by staff in the staff report, number
1-A, that requires future development of this site to be generally consistent with the
conceptual development plan and building elevations included in the staff report and what
that means to staff and the applicant is when a future development application comes in
we will be looking at this concept plan to make sure that they don't have any additional
buildable lots or units -- dwelling units shown on their application. If they do it would not
be deemed to be generally consistent with the concept plan that's approved and included
in the development agreement. Same with the parking spaces. If there was fewer parking
spaces shown, staff would require them to increase those to at least those that are shown
on the concept plan. So, that's the assurance you have that this property would develop
as its proposed. If you do not want it to develop with this many units or additional parking
spaces, you can certainly -- certainly make that part of your recommendation if you
choose to go forward with the rezone tonight and the development agreement. Staff will
stand for any questions you might have.
Simison: Thank you. So, Council, how would you like to proceed this evening, if at all?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: I think start for conversation sake. Generally I like the concept plan. I think
there is an opportunity, as we kind of discussed earlier, to maybe repurpose that common
lot to some additional parking. Overall I think I -- I quoted Planning and Zoning last time
saying this is the -- I think the second best option we would get outside of commercial
and I think almost 20 years is enough time to say let's -- let's -- let's be open to something
else. Tonight I think I am generally supportive of the comp plan amendment. I'm not quite
sure that I'm there on granting a rezone without a plat and I think just for the sake of
conversation -- I think you guys are honest brokers, you -- I believe when you kind of tell
us this is the plan -- is what you are going to do. As Council we don't necessarily look at
as people -- I like to look at it more as process and I always struggle with a rezone without
a plat before me and I appreciate, you know, we can -- we can tie the concept plan and
the DA. I'm also very sympathetic to how the plat is going to lay out with elevations,
particularly on the piece that faces the neighbors, and so I struggle with that particular
piece. I think it's -- you know, I think it's -- it's an appropriate use of land. I think with a
couple of small tweaks we can address at least what I think are some of my concerns
about putting parking -- usable parking closer to where the residents live to prevent those
unintended consequences of people parking on Hickory or having it flow out into the
neighborhood. So, that's kind of where I'm sitting tonight. Happy to have a conversation.
Happy to see where the rest of the body is.
Simison: Thank you. Anybody else like to add in -- weigh in? Or a motion.
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Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: For the reasons stated I would prefer to continue all of it. I think it's -- I wouldn't
-- I wouldn't think that the comp plan amendment to medium high residential here would
be appropriate by itself and that's kind of what we would be doing if we did it separate.
So, I think bumping them all makes the most sense. Otherwise, you are saying that this
property should be medium high residential no matter what and I don't know if that's what
we are saying.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Yeah. This is a project that I think is worth consideration and to Councilman
Burton's point, if it was a different project we might feel differently. So, I think it's a matter
of, then, how do we move forward. As Councilman Cavener pointed out, there might be
some tweaks that we would like to see in this area as it relates to parking, maybe where
the housing sits, so on, so forth. So, I really don't want to throw the baby out with the
bathwater on this and I think if we just bring back all three, let that preliminary plat catch
up and, then, we can make a full decision based on all the information and the facts
available and make it the right decision for this particular project with all the other things
involved, so --
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: I'm in agreement with that. I -- I -- as you all know and I have been fairly consistent
over the years -- it's really difficult for me to, you know, change the zoning designation
from -- from -- from commercial to residential. For me it has to meet a high bar. I'm not
a -- I'm not sold on that quite yet, but at the same time would like to see the whole project
put together with the plat and everything in front of us to see what that -- what that looks
like. I don't think we have seen that yet, obviously, and so I would be in favor of -- of a
continuance.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I agree with Councilman Bernt and Councilman Borton. The Comprehensive
Plan goes through really long and involved and intense review with feedback from our
public and our staff and Planning and Zoning Commission and we take it really seriously
when there is a request to change it, whether it's two acres or 20 acres, and so I'm not in
favor of changing it without -- you know, just as was suggested, changing the -- the plan
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amendment and without making -- you know, continuing the rezone request and I
understand the applicant's desire to get a commitment from us on that comp plan change
before they invest further in the engineering costs to create the preliminary plat, but it's
-- it's also a big ask of us to modify the FLUM when that's gone through such an involved
process to get to those decisions to begin with. So, that's my thought on that.
Simison: So, with that, Council, do I have a motion?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Did -- did we have a discussion with the applicant about time -- time frame if
we continue this, how long it would take for them to have their plat prepared?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor, would that be to -- until the preliminary plat catches up. I mean that
would be just to a time certain when the preliminary plat would be ready for --
Simison: Is that acceptable, Mr. Nary, to -- for legal definition of a continue until date?
Nary: So, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, yeah, the hard part is is we don't know
when it will go to the Planning and Zoning Commission and when they will make a
decision, so it will all have to be renoticed, so -- and maybe -- this may be the rare
circumstance to just continue the matter, based on that as your motion, that there would
be -- it all needs to be heard together and it will have to be renoticed. So, they are going
to have to renotice -- well, they will notice the preliminary plat for Planning and Zoning
and Council. We will renotice the application for the comp plan amendment and the
rezone at the same time.
Simison: So, not to a date certain at this point in time?
Nary: I think -- I don't think it would be wise to do that. I think you can leave it open and
just require that it be renoticed -- all three of them be noticed for Council.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor, I'm going to attempt a motion.
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I move that we continue Woodcrest Townhomes, H-2021-0015, until such a
time as that the Comprehensive Plan FLUM amendment, rezone, and a preliminary plat
can be presented together with an application and the -- and the hearings for the
Comprehensive Plan FLUM amendment and the rezone will be renoticed.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on the motion?
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Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Question I guess maybe for Legal staff. If there are changes that Council wants
to see, should we be articulating that now, so --
Simison: Are they different than the comments that have already been indicated in
tonight's conversation?
Cavener: No, Mr. Mayor, they haven't. I just wanted to make sure that -- I didn't want us
to be surprised. Didn't say why we expected some of these things, so I'm good.
Allen: Mr. Mayor, if I may clarify. Staff is not entirely sure what changes you are asking
for and I'm not sure if the applicant is either. So, if you have changes that you want to the
concept plan now would be a good time to state those, please. Thank you.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I know for myself I would like to see some additional parking in one of the
common areas. However, that needs to be designed in the concept plan. You know,
where ever that can be fit. But I just -- I'm still not convinced -- the applicant indicated in
his testimony that they would make that consideration, that they feel like there is room on
the property to do that. So, I would like to see that. I don't see a downside in that,
considering that they are not required to have any open space to begin with. Not that I
don't think they should, but that would be my preference. I don't -- I can't state a specific
number, because -- you know. But that's -- I don't know that I should do that.
Simison: It's a relocation of or more in that -- more in that location.
Perreault: Sorry?
Simison: Is it relocation of where it is on the current -- to that location or do you want
more than what is currently there and have it added to that area?
Perreault: I would like more total. I don't -- it doesn't matter to me if they move it around
and redesign -- as far as -- there is five here on the east side and four on the north side.
If they want to add more to those areas, that's fine. If they want to add more in -- in this
-- this other south corner that's fine, too. I don't have a specific location in mind. I just
want some additional spaces that are on the property itself, especially if they are intending
to remove themselves from the reciprocal agreement.
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Simison: I think that was the only thing that I heard Council really discuss was the parking
of significance in direction. I didn't hear anything about relocation of buildings personally.
I would speak up if that's the Council's desired direction.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Again, one Council Member. I think I had some concerns about height and
location of those one, two, three, four, five, six, seven buildings that, really, are going to
face up against the existing residents. I think that that will be captured somewhat in the
plat. But that's, obviously, a piece that I'm going to be honing in on.
Simison: Anything else? Then all those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye.
Opposed nay. The ayes have it and the item is agreed to and the item is continued.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, who was the second on that. Thank you, sir.
4. Public Hearing for City of Meridian's Intent to Convey to the Ada
County Highway District Approximately 23,816 Square Feet of Real
Property at Discovery Park, Located Off of E. Lake Hazel Rd. and
Adjacent to the Proposed Apex Subdivision
Simison: Next on the agenda is a public hearing for City of Meridian intent to convey to
the Ada County Highway District approximately 23,860 square feet of real property in
Discovery Park. Open this public hearing with staff comments.
Nary: Mr. Mayor, I can probably start this off--or Mayor and Council. We have a standard
agreement with the highway district when there are needs for right-of-way improvements
to transfer that property to them at no cost based on our prior agreement. I think Steve
has a more specific detail on why it's necessary for this particular project.
Siddoway: Sure. I'm not sure I'm the applicant, but I'm as close as you have on -- on
something like this. The requirement is for -- to -- for the driveway that will serve Apex
Subdivision to our west primarily to align with Lavender Heights on the north and this is
the location. We have anticipated it. That northwest corner of the park was left
undeveloped in our first phase to accommodate a future street in this location. So, like
-- like Mr. Nary just said, this would be the standard request under our current agreement
with ACHD and we are supportive from our perspective and I will stand for any questions.
Nary: And, Mr. Mayor, Council Members, I should note, Jon Wardle is on the line as well
if you had questions of him specifically.
Siddoway: He is online. Yes.
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Simison: Council, any questions? Okay. Do we have anyone signed up to provide
testimony on this item?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, only Mr. Wardle.
Simison: Okay. Mr. Wardle, would you like to provide testimony on this item?
Wardle: Mr. Mayor, can you hear me?
Simison: Can now, yes.
Wardle: Jon Wardle. 2929 West Navigator, Meridian, Idaho. 83642. And I represent
Brighton and we have the project that we are developing to the west of Discovery Park,
which is referenced as Apex, but also known as Pinnacle, and Mr. Siddoway was accurate
and did -- did convey what the ask is for tonight. The Lavender Heights to the north
established the location of the collector road and the alignment on the south was just
going through the corner of Discovery Park and connecting into our -- our development.
That collector road is being built completely by Brighton through the development and so
it's really just improvement over the top of the right of way to align with Lavender Heights.
Any questions for me I would be happy to answer those tonight.
Simison: Council, any questions? No questions. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone
that would like to provide testimony on this item? If so, please, come forward now or if
you are online you can unmute yourself -- you can use the raise your hand feature.
Seeing no one wishing to provide testimony, Council, do I have a motion to close the
public hearing?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move that we close the public hearing for City of Meridian's intent to convey
to the Ada County Highway District approximately 23,816 square feet of real property at
Discovery Park, located off East Lake Hazel Road and adjacent to the proposed Apex
Subdivision.
Cavener: Second the motion.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to close the public hearing. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it.
The public hearing is closed.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
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Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Do we take any action on this?
Simison: Yeah. So, there is nothing further at this point in time.
ORDINANCES [Action Item]
5. Ordinance No. 21-1938: An Ordinance Authorizing the Conveyance of
Certain City-Owned Real Property to the Ada County Highway District
for Right-Of-Way Purposes, Consisting of Approximately 0.547 Acres,
Located at Discovery Park, 2121 E. Lake Hazel Road, Adjacent to the
Proposed Apex Subdivision, Approximately 1,320 Feet to the East of
S. Locust Grove Road in Ada County Idaho; Authorizing the Mayor and
City Clerk to Execute and Attest on Behalf of the City of Meridian the
Deed and Other Documents Necessary to Complete the Transaction;
Providing for a Waiver of the Reading Rules; and Providing an
Effective Date
Simison: So, with that we will move on to ordinances. Number 5 is Ordinance No. 21-
1938. Ask the clerk to read this ordinance by title.
Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is an ordinance authorizing the conveyance of
certain city-owned real property to the Ada County Highway District for right-of-way
purposes, consisting of approximately 0.547 acres, located at Discovery Park, 2121 E.
Lake Hazel Road, adjacent to the proposed Apex Subdivision, approximately 1,320 feet
to the east of S. Locust Grove Road in Ada county; authorizing the Mayor and City Clerk
to execute and attest on behalf of the City of Meridian the deed and other documents
necessary to complete the transaction; providing for a waiver of the reading rules; and
providing an effective date.
Simison: Thank you. Council, you have heard this item read by title. Is there anybody
that would like it read in its entirety? If not, do I have a motion?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Perreault.
Perreault: I move that we approve Ordinance No. 21-1938 with the suspension of rules.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve the ordinance under suspension of
the rules. Is there any discussion on the motion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed nay. The ayes have it and the ordinance is agreed to.
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MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
6. Ordinance No. 21-1943: An Ordinance Repealing Title 7, Chapter 5,
Meridian City Code, Regarding Golf Carts; and Providing an Effective
Date
Simison: Next item is Ordinance No. 21-1943 and ask the Clerk to read this ordinance
by title.
Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is an ordinance repealing Title 7, Chapter 5,
Meridian City Code, regarding golf carts and providing an effective date.
Simison: Council, you have heard this ordinance read by title. Is there anyone who would
like it read in its entirety? Seeing none, do I have a motion?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I move that we approve Ordinance No. 21-1943.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve Ordinance No. 21-1943. Is there any
discussion on the motion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The
ayes have it and the ordinance is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
7. Ordinance No. 21-1944: An Ordinance of the City of Meridian, Idaho
Amending Ordinance No. 20-1892, the Appropriation Ordinance for the
Fiscal Year Beginning October 1, 2020 and Ending September 30, 2021
(FY2021), Appropriating Monies that are to be Allocated by the City of
Meridian, Idaho in the Sum of $(18,529,448); For a Total Fiscal Budget
of $133,440,143; to Provide for a Waiver of the 2nd and 3rd Readings
Pursuant to Idaho Code §50-902; and Providing an Effective Date
Simison: Next item is Ordinance No. 21-1944. Ask the Clerk to read this ordinance by
title.
Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is an ordinance of the City of Meridian, Idaho,
amending Ordinance 20-1892, the appropriation ordinance for the fiscal year beginning
October 1, 2020, and ending September 30th, 2021, fiscal year'21. Appropriating monies
that are to be allocated by the City of Meridian, Idaho, in the sum of $(18,529,448); for a
total fiscal budget of $133,440,143; to provide for a waiver of the 2nd and 3rd readings
pursuant to Idaho Code §50-902; and providing an effective date.
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Simison: Thank you. Council, you have heard this ordinance read by title. Is there
anybody who like it read in this entirety? Seeing none, do I have a motion?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I move that we approve Ordinance No. 21-1944, which is amending Ordinance
No. 20-1892, with the suspension of rules.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve Ordinance No. 21-1944. Is there any
discussion? If not, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have
it and the ordinance is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
8. Ordinance No. 21-1945: An Ordinance, Pursuant to Idaho Code §50-
1002 and §50-1003, Providing for a Title and Findings, Providing for
the Adoption of a Budget and the Appropriation of $185,198,966 to
Defray the Necessary Expenses and Liabilities of the City of Meridian,
in Accordance with the Object and Purposes and in the Certain
Amounts Herein Specified for the Fiscal Year Beginning October 1,
2021 and Ending on September 30, 2022; to Levy All Such Appropriate
Taxes and Levies as Authorized by Law Upon Taxable Property; and
to Collect All Authorized Revenue; to Provide for a Waiver of the 2nd
and 3rd Readings Pursuant to Idaho Code §50- 902; and Providing for
an Effective Date and the Filing of a Certified Copy of this Ordinance
with the Secretary of State
Simison: Next item up is Ordinance No. 21-1945. Ask the Clerk to read this ordinance
by title.
Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is an ordinance pursuant to Idaho Code 50-1002
and 50-1003, providing for a title and finding, providing for the adoption of a budget and
the appropriation of $185,198,966 to defray the necessary expenditures and liabilities of
the City of Meridian, in accordance with the object and purposes and in the certain
amounts herein specified for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2021 , and ending on
September 30, 2022; to levy all such appropriate taxes and levies as authorized by law
upon taxable property; and to collect all revenue; to provide for a waiver of the 2nd and
3rd readings pursuant to Idaho Code §50-902; and providing for an effective date and the
filing of a certified copy of this ordinance with the Secretary of State.
Simison: Thank you. Council, you have heard this ordinance read by title. Is there
anybody who would like it read in its entirety? Seeing none, do I have a motion?
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Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Perreault.
Perreault: I move we approve Ordinance No. 21-1945 with the suspension of rules.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve Ordinance No. 21-1945 under
suspension of the rules. Is there any discussion on the motion? If not, all in favor signify
by saying aye. Opposed nay.
Cavener: Nay.
Simison: Four ayes. One nay. The item is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE NAY. ONE ABSENT.
9. Ordinance 21-1946: An Ordinance (H-2020-0047 — Prescott Ridge) for
Annexation of a Parcel Situated in a Portion of the West '/2 of the
Northeast '/4 and a Portion of the West '/z of Section 28, Township 4
North, Range 1 West, Ada County, Idaho, and Being More Particularly
Described in Attachment "A" and Annexing Certain Lands and
Territory, Situated in Ada County, Idaho, and Adjacent and Contiguous
to the Corporate Limits of the City of Meridian as Requested by the
City of Meridian; Establishing and Determining the Land Use Zoning
Classification of 128.21 Acres of Land from RUT to R-8 (Medium
Density Residential) (99.53 Acres); R-15 (Medium High Density
Residential) (8.82 Acres) and C-G (General Retail and Service
Commercial) (19.85 Acres) Zoning Districts in the Meridian City Code;
Providing that Copies of this Ordinance Shall be Filed with the Ada
County Assessor, the Ada County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax
Commission, as Required by Law; and Providing for a Summary of the
Ordinance; and Providing for a Waiver of the Reading Rules; and
Providing an Effective Date
Simison: Next item is Ordinance No. 21-1946. Ask the Clerk to read this ordinance by
title.
Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Ordinance -- sorry. This is an ordinance related to H-
2020-0047, Prescott Ridge, for annexation of a parcel situated in a portion of the West '/z
of the Northeast '/4 and a portion of the West '/2 of Section 28, Township 4 North, Range
1 West, Ada county, Idaho, and being more particularly described in Attachment "A" and
annexing certain lands and territory, situated in Ada county, Idaho, and adjacent and
contiguous to the corporate limits of the City of Meridian as requested by the City of
Meridian; establishing and determining the land use zoning classification of 128.21 acres
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of land from RUT to R-8 (medium density residential) (99.53 acres); R-15 (medium high
density residential) (8.82 acres) and C-G (general retail and service commercial) (19.85
acres) zoning districts in the Meridian City Code; providing that copies of this ordinance
shall be filed with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada County Recorder, and the Idaho
State Tax Commission, as required by law; and providing for a summary of the ordinance;
and providing for a waiver of the reading rules; and providing an effective date.
Simison: Thank you. Council, you have heard this ordinance read by title. Is there
anybody who would like it read in its entirety? Seeing none, do I have a motion?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Perreault.
Perreault: I move that we approve Ordinance No. 21-1946 with the suspension of rules.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve Ordinance 21-1946 under suspension
the rules. Is there discussion on the motion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed nay. The ayes have it and the ordinance is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
10. Ordinance 21-1947: An Ordinance (H-2021-0035 TM Creek Apartments
Phase 3) for Rezone of Part of the NW '/4 of Section 14, Township 3
North, Range 1 West, Boise Meridian, Ada County, Idaho; Establishing
and Determining the Land Use Zoning Classification of 5.58 Acres of
Land from TN-C (Traditional Neighborhood Center) Zoning District to
C-G (General Retail and Service Commercial) Zoning District in the
Meridian City Code; Providing that Copies of This Ordinance Shall be
Filed with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada County Recorder, and the
Idaho State Tax Commission, as Required by Law; and Providing an
Effective Date
Simison: Next item up is Item 10, which is Ordinance No. 21-1947. Ask the Clerk to read
this ordinance by title.
Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. We are almost there. This is an ordinance related to
H-2021-0035, TM Creek Apartments Phase Three for rezone of part of the NW '/4 of
Section 14, Township 3 North, Range 1 West, Boise meridian, Ada county, Idaho;
establishing and determining the land use zoning classification of 5.58 acres of land from
TN-C (Traditional Neighborhood Center) zoning district to C-G (General Retail and
Service Commercial) zoning district in the Meridian City Code; providing that copies of
this ordinance shall be filed with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada County Recorder, and
the Idaho State Tax Commission, as required by law; and providing an effective date.
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Simison: Thank you. Council, you have heard this ordinance read by title. Is there
anybody that would like it read in its entirety? Seeing none, do I have a motion?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I move that we approve Ordinance No. 21-1947.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve Ordinance 21-1947. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it and
the ordinance is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
11. Ordinance 21-1948: An Ordinance (H-2021-0025 — The 10 at Meridian)
for Annexation of the NE '/4 of the NE '/4 of Section 15, Township 3
North, Range 1 West, Boise Meridian, Ada County, Idaho, as Described
in Attachment "A" and Annexing Certain Lands and Territory, Situated
in Ada County, Idaho, and Adjacent and Contiguous to the Corporate
Limits of the City of Meridian as Requested by the City of Meridian;
Establishing and Determining the Land Use Zoning Classification of
40.30 Acres (More or Less) of Land from RUT to C-C (Community
Business District)(27.25 Acres) and R-40 (High Density Residential)
(13.04 Acres) Zoning Districts in the Meridian City Code;
Providing that Copies of this Ordinance Shall be Filed with the Ada
County Assessor, the Ada County Recorder, and the Idaho State
Tax Commission, as Required by Law; and Providing for a Summary
of the Ordinance; and Providing for a Waiver of the Reading Rules;
and Providing an Effective Date
Simison: Item 11, Ordinance No. 21-1948. Ask the Clerk to read this ordinance by title.
Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. It's an ordinance related to H-2021-0025, The 10 at
Meridian, for annexation of the NE '/4 of the NE '/4 of Section 15, Township 3 North, Range
1 West, Boise meridian, Ada county, Idaho, as described in Attachment "A" and annexing
certain lands and territory, situated in Ada county, Idaho, and adjacent and contiguous to
the corporate limits of the City of Meridian as requested by the City of Meridian;
establishing and determining the land use zoning classification of 40.30 acres (more or
less) of land from RUT to C-C (Community Business District)(27.25 acres) and R-40 (High
Density Residential) (13.04 acres) zoning districts in the Meridian City Code; providing
that copies of this ordinance shall be filed with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada County
Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax Commission, as required by law; and providing for a
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summary of the ordinance; and providing for a waiver of the reading rules; and providing
an effective date.
Simison: Thank you. Council, you have heard this ordinance read by title. Was there
anybody who like it read in its entirety? If not, do I have a motion?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I move that we approve Ordinance No. 21-1948 with the suspension of rules.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve Ordinance No. 21-1948 under
suspension of the rules. Is there any discussion on the motion? If not, all in favor signify
by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it and the ordinance is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
FUTURE MEETING TOPICS
Simison: Council, anything under future meeting topics or a motion to adjourn?
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: I move that we adjourn.
Hoaglun: Second.
Simison: Motion and second to adjourn. All in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay.
The ayes have it. We are adjourned.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 7:52 P.M.
(AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
MAYOR ROBERT E. SIMISON
9 / 21 / 2021
DATE APPROVED
ATTEST:
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