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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 13, 1996 P&Z Minutes 8 8 '- - Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission February 13, 1996 Page 43 (Inaudible) Johnson: Go ahead Gary Smith, we do have a comment. Smith: Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Shearer, we do have the documentation for the new easement in place. I believe they have relocated the facility also. Johnson: Thank you Gary. This will require findings of fact. I have closed the public hearing at this time. Shearer: I move we prepare findings of fact and conclusions. Hepper: Second Johnson: It has been moved and seconded that we have the City Attorney prepare findings of fact and conclusions of law, all those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #16: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A DAY CARE FOR UP TO 12 CHILDREN BY ANGELA MILLER: Johnson: I will now open this public hearing and invite the applicant or a representative of the applicant to address the Commission. Angela Miller, 2019 Bedford Drive, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney. Johnson: Just basically tell us a little bit about your project, what you have in mind. Miller: I am currently having a house built. It is a a primary residence and my occupation is a day care provider. I am applying for a conditional use for that use. Johnson: Have you had discussions with your neighbors? Miller: I only have one and yes they are in favor of this. Johnson: No opposition that you are aware of? Miller: Like I said I only have the one neighbor and they have no opposition and I have talked to the builder and he has no problems there is a letter from him. 8 8 Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission February 13, 1996 Page 44 Johnson: We have that letter. Thank you, did you have a chance to review the comments from our agencies, were there any problems with those? Miller: No, Johnson: I noticed you did respond to most of those. Miller: I did? Johnson: Somebody did on your behalf. Crookston: Excuse me, would you explain how you are going to keep the kids within the yard and things like that, do you have a fence? Miller: The backyard will be for day care use not the front yard and it will be fenced with a wood fence per code. Crookston It is fenced now? Miller: Alii have is a hole in the ground right now, but it will be constructed at the end of when the house is being built. It will be put in before or as soon as we occupy the home. Crookston: How long will that be? Miller: Well, we hopefully will close March 29 and be moved in in April. I will not be able to take children until I get the conditional use permit and the State of Idaho and I will not be able to get those approved until the fence and other conditions are met. That should be within a reasonable, I would say within a week or two of occupancy. Crookston: Do you have an age of children that you would only want to have there at the day care? Miller: I take them all, from zero on up through school age. Usually until they can either go home by themselves. I take them all. Crookston: How many children are you thinking of taking care of? Miller: I have always been licensed for 12 but I choose not to do that many. Currently I am licensed in Boise for 12 and I do have 5 full time and 3 part time. I do choose to get licensed for 12 just because I do take in some drop ins or when the school aged children are off of school that I do not go over capacity. 8 8 Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission February 13, 1996 Page 45 Crookston: What kind of play toys are you going to have in the backyard? Miller: I have a swing set and I do have some fisher price play equipment. Crookston: Excuse me, where is your property that you are going to build on? Miller: It is Midtown Square, Block 5, Lot 12, Hepper: What would be your hours of operation? Miller: Well, depending on the job I am flexible right now. I do have some Micron workers so a few days a week I work from 6:30 in the morning to 7:00 at night which may be the case. My other hours I work from 7 to 5:30 or 6:00 I like to have the children out by 6:00. Crookston: What type of gates are you going to have on the fence so that children cannot get out ofthem? Were you planning that? Miller: Currently I do have 6 foot gates and the locks are up high. I have a padlock on them right now. I don't know if there is a code for self closing or self latching gates, I am not aware of that. If there is than that is what I will do. Crookston: We don't have a code here in Meridian on that I am just wondering just to make sure what kind of facilities you are going to have. Miller: It is a group home, it is primarily a residence with the day care during business hours. Crookston: How close are you to Cherry Lane? Miller: Well, I am one block off actually. Crookston: To the south? Miller: Yes, Cherry Lane, I don't know how to measure that I am just at the I would say, Oslund: It looks like you are about a 1000 feet at least. Hepper: Does the Developer of the project have any concerns about additional traffic? Miller: Not at this time, as it states in the letter that we will get together any concerns that he might have. He does not oppose this at this time. . 8 8 Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission February 13, 1996 Page 46 Crookston: Thank you. MacCoy: Another question here, I had a whole list of them but most of them have already been answered already. Johnson: You don't get credit for those, you only get credit for those that you ask. MacCoy: (Inaudible) I am assuming that when you go for your licensing that the health and safety portion they are going to look into. Adequate lavatory, kitchen facilities and so on. . Miller: I have those yes. MacCoy: Do you mind stating what the requirement is for (inaudible). Miller: I have no idea since it is a primary residence I am not sure if there is a code that we would require me to have more stool in the bathroom. I am not a center. Johnson: No there are none that I am aware of with respect to, when you get beyond 12 when you get into, what is the next terminology Wayne? Crookston: Day Care Johnson: Day Care then there are different requirements, segregated requirements an that sort of thing but not at this level. MacCoy: The main question I had was for drop off and pick up (inaudible) is there any problem with traffic. (Inaudible) but you look at your whole Midtown Square (inaudible) more and more Miller: Where I am at the end of the street I am not going to have really a lot of traffic right at that area beæuse I am at the end of the street there. I do have the driveway which will be kept open for people. It is a two car driveway yes. MacCoy: You talked about fencing and (inaudible) I just would like to (inaudible) required to by code on the_gate situation that (inaudible) self closing gate with a (inaudible) locking system beæuse too many things have happened, kids (inaudible) you know how fast that happens. (Inaudible) Miller: Okay 8 . Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission February 13, 1996 Page 47 Crookston: You will have a state license though? Miller: Yes, that is in the process now? Johnson: Any other questions of the applicant? Thank you, is there anyone else that would like to address the Commission on this application? Seeing no one then I will close the public hearing. This requires findings of fact. Oslund: Mr. Chairman, I have a question for Shari. Taking a look at the map that was provided there appears to be an unplatted property behind this property. At least the map I am looking at doesn't show what that is planned to be, what the zoning is, my concern is it may be a potential for incompatible use. Not in the broader sense but just the fact that if she has a day care there what is the use going to be behind her potentially? Stiles: Commissioner Oslund and Commissioners that is currently zoned R-4, it is owned by the McFaddens, they also own the NW corner of Cherry Lane and Meridian. Oslund: Judging by the heckling occurred up here I guess that means something. Johnson: No, it just means you need to have a discussion with Mr. Shearer, off the record at some other time. Stiles: Not likely anything to happen for awhile. Oslund: Maybe you are familiar with this the Midtown Square and the specifics regarding that but there appears to be on Lot 13 right next to her lot 12 which in appearance seems to be maybe a pad connection. So she would have a pedestrian alley or connection immediately adjacent to her property. I guess my two comments based on that are really that you have a little different situation because you do have that alley there and the potential for some other use behind you. That may pose some kind additional exposure to the kJds, maybe other older kids walking through that alley way ultimately. That was my only comment, I don't know exactly what we would do about that. That is alii had. Shearer: Mr. Chairman, I move we have the Attorney prepare findings of fact and conclusions of law. MacCoy: Second Johnson: We have a motion and a second to have the City Attorney prepare findings of fact and conclusions of law on. the application for Angela Miller, all those in favor? Opposed? e . ~ ",. Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission February 13, 1996 Page 48 MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #17: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A GROUP HOME DAY CARE BY KATHLEEN LAWRENCE: Johnson: I will now open the public hearing and invite Kathleen or a representative to address the Commission. Kathleen Lawrence, 889 North Fillmore, was sworn by the City Attorney. Lawrence: My request for conditional use is for a day care for up to 12 children which is a group home day care. I did submit proposed fence, due to weather our yard has not been fine graded so we are waiting for that to get done so we can get the fence up. Shearer: Which lot in the subdivision is yours? Lawrence: Lot 6, Block 5 Hepper: Would the garage be part of the day care? Lawrence: No Crookston: Do you have a fence now or will you have one? Lawrence: I do not have a fence now, as soon as the yard, as soon as we are able to fine grade we will put the fence up. Crookston: So you are just newly moved into the home? Lawrence: Yes, we moved in December 5th. MacCoy: What kind of fence? Lawrence: What kind of fence, we are going to put a six foot four by four by six wooden fence with a gate. Hopefully self locking. (Inaudible) Crookston: What are your hours going to be? Lawrence: I would like to have seven in the morning to six at night. Crookston: And the age of the children that you are going to accept?