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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 24, 2000 P&Z Minutes !' j! Meridian Planning and L8ng Commission May 24,2000 Page 34 MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES 8 Barbeiro: I motion that we recommend approval to City Council request for conditional use permit for a planned unit development to construct second building on lot in IL zone by Terrace Plaza, LLC with staff comments. . Norton: I second it. Borup: Motion and second. All in favor. END OF SIDE FOUR MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES 5. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR CHILD CARE CENTER (12+ CHILDREN) IN AN R-8 ZONE BY TARA L. GORTON- 420 E. BROADWAY: Siddoway: This is a conditional use permit request for a child care center located at 420 East Broadway Avenue by Tara Gorton. It is an existing house that is currently vacant. The main issue to bring up here is off street parking. There is a gravel driveway somewhat overgrown. There are parking requirements for child care centers. They are one for every 10 children plus one for staff. I need to verify that. There has not been a maximum number of children placed on this permit. It is over 12 which requires it to be a child care center. The number of parking spaces that they need-it is really not know without knowing the maximum number of children they'll be approved for. The applicant should address that and talk about some site plan issues as to how that parking is going to be provided. That is alii have. Borup: Any questions? Steve do you know whether there is a maximum number of children (inaudible) square footage of the building. Siddoway: There is a fire code issue. There is not in the zoning and development ordinance. Borup: And not in the child care- Siddoway: Over 12 requires a conditional use permit is the extent of our ordinance. No maximum number based on square footage. Borup: Would the applicant come forward. Gorton: My name is Tara Gorton and I reside at 1155 S. Linder Road. I actually have not purchased the property. It is pending until the conditional use permit. There is a 20 x 30 foot area in the back for parking. I can get at least 3 spaces in there. I was going .. 8 . Meridian Planning and .eing Commission May 24, 2000 Page 35 to reserve that strictly for staff parking. Concerning the amount of children, approximately -its 35 square feet per child, so I am going to be able to have at lease 22 children in there. That is what I am going to be allowed. That does not necessarily mean that is how many I am going to have. That requires at lease 2 spaces of additional parking and at least 3 staff members. The front of the building with the parking there is quite a bit of room for widening that driveway right there to accommodate a handicap parking area. There is some grass in front that can also be taken up in parking. I have a question on the pavement. It was brought to my knowledge I would have to have that paved. Is that concrete or cement or any specific type of material I need to have for that. Borup: Concrete or asphalt. Gorton: Okay. Norton: Do you have your day care license yet. Gorton: No, that is all pending. Norton: Are you a member of the Treasure Valley Association for the Education of Young Children. - Gorton: No I'm not. Norton: Are you familiar with child care connections? Gorton: Yes I am. Norton: Are you caring for children at this point. Gorton: I have a small day care center in my home right now. I would like to get it out of my home and someone else. I have been working in child care facilities for the last 9 years. Norton: Do you have degree in early childhood development. Gorton: No, I'm just a mommy. Norton: My next question is repair to the fence and open drainage ditch in the back. Gorton: The open drainage ditch was allowed for some (inaudible) of the irrigation and it is my understanding that that's not even connected at that time so there is a possibility of me being able to remove that completely. The fencing in the back, like I said I have not made any repairs to the building because I have not purchased the building. I am just currently renting it until this is approved. That would be a completely closed off fence. Central District Health required no more than a 4 in gap in any fencing. ., "' . Meridian Planning and ~ng Commission May 24, 2000 Page 36 8 Norton: Are you familiar with the complaints we have, letters from neighbors that are not too happy with having 20 or 35 children in there neighborhood. Gorton: It is actually 22 and no I am not. I spoke directly to the gentleman who lives next door. He had no objections to it. . Norton: Do you think it is fair to the neighborhood to bring in 22 children in a 1000 square foot house. Gorton: If you look at the property there is a huge lumber yard across the street with trucks and loud speakers. I think that would be a lot less desirable than having a few kids in the neighborhood. I am not planning on packing the center out to have a bunch of children. When you take a center and have 22 children, a majority of those children because I am doing all ages will be infants and then a couple preschoolers and after school care as well. It's not going to be like 30 kids in there at one time. It will be split up throughout the day. I am willing to be a very good neighbor as far as what they would want me to do. If they have a particular time of day they don't want the children out, I'd be happy to comply with that. If they want me to Hmit the amount of time the children are out or a number of children on the playground at one time, I'd be happy to do that as well. Norton: What are your hours of operation. Gorton: The hours of operation are simply going to be a 12 hour day. I have not decided if I will start at 6 or 7. Basically by 6 p.m. everyone will be gone and the center will be quiet. No evening or weekend care at all. Norton: Do these children include your own children or additional children. Gorton: I have 2 school age children and have a pregnancy and a small as well. At least for the majority of the day 2 of those children will be mine. Norton: Included in your 22. Gorton: Yes. Also I have one potential staff member who has a child as well. Borup: Any questions from the other Commissioner's. Barbeiro: Steve, could you go back to the floor plan please. A single bathroom for 22 kids and 2 or 3 staff. Gorton: I do have a plumbing bid. We are going to expand the bathroom to two toilets and a sink and then 2 additional sinks on the facility. That does not include the kitchen sink. I will have 2 toilets handicapped approved and a separate hand washing sink and a mop as well. ,> " Meridian Planning and ~ng Commission May 24,2000 Page 37 8 Barbeiro: Will they be two separate bathrooms. Gorton: The toilets right now are going to be in one bathroom. Eventually what I'd like to do is expand to use the back garage area. That is actually a shop and I would like to put a bathroom back there and have that additional classroom as well. . Borup: Anyone else. Okay. Anyone here that would like to testify. Munson: My name is Corrie Munson. I live at 406 E. Broadway. I got the letter in the mail and it said a small daycare of 12 and up. I have seen small daycare's in residences and have never seen 12 but the idea of 22, that I just found out, worried me a little bit more. Residential is on the north side of East Broadway. The whole south side is commercial. As she stated, I am on the corner of East and Broadway, two houses away, and all of south Broadway is commercial. Lumberman's is across there at the end of Broadway. It does not go all the way through. We have so much truck traffic going on day and night. These businesses impact our lives. The idea of having another business such as any kind of business-enough is enough. It is a narrow lot and the additional parking-the alley is narrow and with that shed in the back there is not-it is hard to get our cars out of the garage. We also if you show the picutre of the front of the house, the neighbor next door and my self both have open irrigation ditches that we use to flow irrigate once a week and there is water in there 6 months out of the year. I am a young mother and am constantly on top of where my children are at because it is such a danager. I am worried that it increases my risk of having so many children in the neighborhood and risk of injury and drowning. I would have to get an awful lot of liability on my home and I would hope that you would not grant this permit because it is so commercial as it is right now and we are just trying to live as normally as possible. We love the neighborhood and have good neighbors. A lot are elderly. I have spoken to a neighbor next door and because of certain reasons he has a invalid wife and he is directly next door to the property. Thank you for your time. Borup: Anyone else. Commissioner's any additional questions? Barbeiro: I move we close the public hearing. Norton: I second it. Borup: All in favor. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES Norton: I have a question for staff. Did staff have recommendations on this. Siddoway: I think there needs to be a scaled site plan submitted showing that the parking can be accommodated. It does not appear to us that those 5 or 6 parking spaces that would be required, could be accommodated. It may require some sort of '.' . Meridian Planning and Aang Commission May 24, 2000 Page 38 variance and parking lot width. I think this width is dimensioned here as 15 feet. We have a 9 foot wide parking stall ordinance. It is not enough width for 3 cars. 8 Borup: Any problem with stacking on the staff parking. It looks like it is 30 feet, so they could add a couple more feet to that and have-- .. Siddoway: I think it is 25 from here to here and minimum length is 19. You need a minimum of 36. Or submit a variance to City Council, but it does not seem like the required parking can be supplied. That is the main issue I see. Norton: I move that we recommend to City Council deny this request for conditional use permit for child care center (12.plus children) in a R..8 zone by Tara L. Gorton at 420 E. Broadway. Barbeiro: Motion and second, discussion. Brown: In the Comprehensive Plan for the downtown Meridian area under goal statements and policies it says to support these kinds of uses but it says to support them when they are compatible with the neighbors and the existing. That is where I see the problem. Maybe if the daycare was smaller it would be different. I will go along with the motion. Borup: All in favor. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES 6. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A MARKETING EDUCATION CLASSROOM TO ACCOMMODATE 2 NON- CONCURRENT CLASSES OF 25-30 STUDENTS IN A C-G ZONE BY JOINT SCHOOL DISTRICT NO. 2-357 WATERTOWER LANE: Siddoway: Mr. Chairman and Commissioner's you have recently seen this lot come before you for approval of two buildings on one lot. This is to propose a classroom on the existing building on the front portion of the lot. The schedule of use control doesn't specifically list classrooms under any zoning district, therefore they have been required to go through a conditional use permit. Here is a site photo of that existing building on Watertower Lane in Central Valley Corporate Park. You have staff comments dated May 18th. We recommend approval of the application. Borup: Is the applicant here? Baxter: Mr. Chairman and Commissioner's my name is Jim Baxter, 1720 W. Pine Street. I am a vocational education coordinator for the Meridian School District. We agree to the conditions from staff for approval.