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Meridian City Council Work Session May 25, 2021.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 4:30 p.m., Tuesday, May
25, 2021, by Mayor Robert Simison.
Members Present: Robert Simison, Joe Borton, Luke Cavener, Treg Bernt, Brad
Hoaglun and Liz Strader.
Members Absent: Jessica Perreault.
Also present: Chris Johnson, Bill Nary, Todd Lavoie, Jodi St. Martin, Jamie Leslie, Joe
Bongiorno and Dean Willis.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
Liz Strader _X_ Joe Borton
_X_ Brad Hoaglun _X_Treg Bernt
Jessica Perreault _X Luke Cavener
_X_ Mayor Robert E. Simison
Simison: Council, call this meeting to order. For the record it is Tuesday, May 25th,
2021, at 4:30 p.m. We will begin this afternoon's work session with roll call attendance.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Simison: Next item is adoption of the agenda.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: It's with greatest pleasure that I have that I make a motion to adopt the agenda,
removing Item 11, because it's been vacated. So, I move that we adopt the agenda as
-- or as amended.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda, removing Item 11. Is
there any discussion on the motion? If not, on in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed
nay? The ayes have it and the agenda is adopted.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
1. Approve Minutes of the May 11, 2021 City Council Work Session
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2. Approve Minutes of the May 11, 2021 City Council Regular Meeting
3. Southridge Subdivision No. 4 Pedestrian Pathway Easement
4. Final Plat for Goddard Creek Townhomes (FP-2021-0029) by SI
Construction, LLC, Located on the Northwest Corner of W. McMillan
Rd. and N. Goddard Creek Way
5. Final Order for Cache Creek Subdivision (FP-2021-0028) by Schultz
Development, LLC, Located on the Northwest Corner of E. Victory
Rd. and S. Locust Grove Rd.
6. Final Order for Wadsworth Meridian (FP-2021-0030) by Wadsworth
Development, Located at 3185 E. Ustick Rd.
7. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Creamery North
Condominiums (SHP2021-0002) by City Center Redevelopment, LLC,
Located at 33 E. Idaho Ave.
8. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Creamery South
Condominiums (SHP2021-0001) by City Center Redevelopment, LLC,
Located at 703 E. Main St.
9. Development Agreement Between the City of Meridian and GFI -
Meridian Investments III, LLC (Owner/Developer) for Gateway at Ten
Mile (H-2020-0046)
10. Second Addendum to the Development Agreement Between the City
of Meridian and Dr. Matthew Tuft (Owner/Developer) for Cornerstone
Dental MDA (H-2021-0009), Located at 3250 N. Leslie Way
Simison: Our next item is the Consent Agenda.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: I move that we approve the Consent -- Consent Agenda, for the Mayor to sign
and for the Clerk to attest.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda. Is there any
discussion on the motion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The
ayes have it and the Consent Agenda is agreed to.
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MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
ITEMS MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
Simison: There are no items moved from the Consent Agenda.
DEPARTMENT / COMMISSION REPORTS [Action Item]
11. Finance Department Quarterly Update - Demographic Data Update
Simison: And Item 11 is vacated.
12. Mayor's Office: Neighborhood Grants Program Discussion
Simison: So, we will go on to Item 12, which is the Mayor's Office neighborhood grants
program discussion and ask Jodi to come forward.
St. Martin: Thank you for holding a special meeting just for me tonight. Nice to see you
Mayor and Councilmen and Council Woman. I'm here to -- this is not new information to
any of you. We have had fun casual conversations, but I would like to do a presentation
for those who are watching this recorded. I am coming to speak to you about a
neighborhood grant program, otherwise known as Participatory Budgeting, which is
something the City of Meridian has been doing, with the absence of last year, for
probably six years now. So, thank you for having me here. How do I advance this,
Chris? All right. I would like to run down the presentation, have an introduction,
example of program and projects, application process, project requirements and funding
needs.
Johnson: Just -- yeah. Hold your down arrow until you are -- there.
St. Martin: All right. I would like to thank the grandfathers of this program, Papa Joe
Borton and Peepaw Todd Lavoie, from my southern influence in Texas. I had
permission from Peepaw to say that. Joe Borton and Todd Lavoie brought this to the
City of Meridian about -- probably eight years ago with the introduction and put it into --
into play about six years ago. Participatory Budgeting is an active community project,
which brings citizen input on projects that would be beneficial to the community and we
have worked this project historically with the Mayor's Youth Advisory Council and the
Mayor's Senior Advisory Board. Upon Mayor Simison coming into office he gave me the
opportunity, as a former project manager, to review and -- and suggest any changes
from the past projects that I have run and this is the presentation which I would like to
present today. I called and visited with 13 cities across the U.S. and Canada that have
had successful participatory budgeting projects. I have listed here 11 with similar
population sizes to kind of give you an example of budgets that are out there. I wanted
to emphasize that historically we have not had an application process, but something I
would like to implement and all of them -- all the projects are located on public property
or an easement that was given to the city. This is an example of the program timeline. I
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would love to see this launched in August, sometime around National Night Out, kind of
get that community -- we are all involved in the community at that time visiting neighbors
and neighborhoods and just -- and it would be a great time to launch this. I would like to
see a mandatory workshop and application registration for those that are interested,
either individuals or groups of people and committees that would like to work together
through the month of September. We would like to see the -- the committees or
individuals work with the project manager, which would be me, and other city staff as
needed if they need help with bids through the month of October. Voting would happen
in November. The projects would come to City Council for you all to vote on and
following the confirmation of their project they would be able to start their projects as
they are able to. If weather is an issue, then, they would have to wait for that. The
projects would complete I would hope the first part of September, so we can wrap up all
the final reports before the end of the fiscal year. Here is just some illustrate -- or
pictures of successful Participatory Budgeting projects that have been done around the
country. Successful MYAC and MSAB projects that I would like to highlight were the
bike fix it stations that are around the downtown core of Meridian. The fishing dock at
Kleiner Park that has ADA accessibility. The Memorial Garden at Kleiner Park. And
those are my three favorites. But those are the ones I would like to highlight that we did
very successfully. The application process would require a workshop and based on
where we are at I would assume that we would want to keep this virtual, so it's
something we can view throughout the process and, then, if someone wanted to really
do something they wouldn't have to be present. They could, then, re -- re-share that
information with their group as they were forming one. I would like to see them form
committees, but not limited to an individual who has a fantastic idea that might be able
to do a project as well. They would work with myself, project manager of this
Participatory Budgeting or neighborhood grants program and, then, would help vet the
projects before we brought it to City Council. Feedback from several of you after some
of our conversations. I would highly recommend the voting taking place just by City
Council. I think with people and social media we could get a huge popularity contest
versus a great project and so my goal would be to have City Council determine what
would be the best project for the city for the community. Project requirements. The
who. My fortunate advantage of what I do in the Mayor's Office -- I get to reach out to
all these people, groups already and it would be my privilege to invite them all to
participate. We would be inviting the HOAs, churches, businesses, schools, special
interest groups and I would really like to see youth and seniors still involved in these --
in these projects. The projects must be located on public property or, like I said, an
easement that would be given to the city. The how. Approved projects will be managed
by individuals or committees and must report the progress to their project manager the
city staff. One, projects must be completed within the fiscal year budget and final
reporting due by the end of September. I do kind of run my programs strictly, so I would
like to see these actually finished towards the beginning of September, so that we have
that whole month to get that -- the final documentation in. Again, after feedback from
several of you I had initially proposed 45,000 dollars for this project -- for this program
this first year. After speaking with a couple of -- or several of you we determined that
15,000 dollars per project -- we were going to do three projects. Fifteen thousand per
project wasn't always probably going to be the best kind of projects coming to -- coming
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forward, so I would like to decrease that to two projects max and up to 25,000 dollars
per project. My -- my request would be for this program our first year 50,000 dollars.
And I stand for any questions at this point.
Simison: Thank you, Jodi. Council, any questions?
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: Thank you, Jodi. Great presentation. Got a question for you. Any possible --
would there be a possibility that we would -- could choose one project or 50 if it was or does it to have to be two projects for 25?
St. Martin: Well, I wouldn't want to see because we have two projects on there that we
had to do two. I think that's where the ebb and flow of the -- the management comes
and we really want to bring the best projects for our community and not just do one
project because there is a budget for it and -- you know. And that's where -- and this is
in the conversation we are having now, like do we -- do we have a really amazing
project that's going to break the 25,000 dollars? Can we do an amendment to increase
that budget? And this is why I'm coming to you all for the input and why I invited
Peepaw over here.
Simison: And I would say to a certain extent yes, because, you know, this is really
about creating what the expectations are moving forward and, you know, we -- we are
viewing this as a pilot for this year to help answer some of these exact questions. I
know Jodi's -- we had a conversation that said, hey, I want it to be manageable for her.
What -- how much can we actually do? How many projects? Because the intention is
as we move towards districts do we expand this to do a project in a district? At what
cost? How does that work? Do we have the capability to manage that? So, we are just
trying to -- I think the main point is we are trying to look at what's a reasonable,
manageable amount of work and reasonable, manageable dollar figure for the -- for the
City Council to consider that they would want to do on these projects. So, yes, I think
that there are -- these are things that even as we get into the project maybe there is
some modifications that we make, because that's the beauty of a pilot; right?
Bernt: Yeah. Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: Just coming from the private sector, you know, there is something to be said, you
know, for demand and competition. You know, I think it would be cool, you know, like if
-- to have -- you know, even take it a step further maybe and allow for competition and
to see who comes up with the best project and I mean I think that will make the project
even better. I would hate to -- going off of what you said, Jodi, having to select a project
that was just sort of, eh, you know, okay because we had a select two for 25, when if
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there was one that was a true winner that could definitely make a difference in our
community, you know, giving the funds to that project in the match.
St. Martin: There were two -- may I address -- there are two great projects that we had
community involvement with. That was Republic Services. They not only on top of the
allowed project dollars, they, then, doubled that. They met that. And so the -- the youth
were allowed to create something even better, because they -- they met those funds.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Thanks so much, Jodi. And I love the idea and agree with the idea that we
should have competition and if there is a great project that fits the bill that would be fine.
How would this work for an individual? I was happy to hear you might be open to that.
Sometimes people are part of a group, but maybe there is just a local parent or a local
person in the community that sees a need in their neighborhood. Is it possible for one
person to participate in this and -- you know, without forming a committee and a huge
group? That was my question.
St. Martin: Yeah. I think a lot of the times we -- especially with working with the Mayor's
Youth Advisory Council, we -- we have had -- we had a lot of great ideas collaboratively
-- collaboratively, but those one off ideas were so amazing and there are ways to wrap
support from the community in that project build, but I wouldn't want someone, if they
didn't have a committee, to feel like they couldn't participate or throwing in their idea.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Jodi, do you anticipate the process to include a -- like an RFP rubric, some
scoring mechanism that would allow the Council, as ultimate decision makers, to
compare apples to apples?
St. Martin: Please describe RFP.
Borton: A request for proposal where we would receive the -- the competing requests,
but we might have some metrics that might help us make a decision one over the other.
St. Martin: Well, I don't assume that I'm going to know every aspect as a project
manager, I'm going to be pulling in other people, especially city staff, to help with these.
I think the more involvement we have and interest from everybody, the better projects
we are going to get.
Simison: And, Councilman Borton, to a certain extent, yes, we are not going to put
something forward that's not on public property. You know, there will be certain
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elements to make sure it would check the boxes and including some of the operational
side of things that we need to still make determinations, work with Finance, that
sometimes may make it difficult for an individual to do it based on how we choose to do
this, whether it's upfront or reimbursement process for these projects, you know, so
there -- there are some of those elements. So, yes to a certain extent, but ultimately I
think the main -- we probably would not want to -- we would probably want to let you
know whether or not it checks the boxes. But the value -- I think that's where we leave it
to Council to determine the overall value of the project to the community.
Borton: Got it. Yeah. It has to meet -- Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: -- some baseline benchmarks of eligibility of course. I think it's great. I think it's
a great program. My initial reaction was having a cap was helpful. I think if you didn't
have a cap you might get all 50,000 dollar requests, which forces your hand to pick one,
as opposed to an opportunity to pick two. I guess it cuts both ways. So, I guess my
takeaway on it all is make it happen, stumble a little perhaps and learn and make it
better every year, I think that's what made Participatory Budgeting better. We learned
and don't let us get bogged down in some of the minutiae. You are going to learn as
you go though it, so I think with your leadership it's going to be wildly successful and
probably provide something to our community that the seven of us would go, holy
smokes, that's awesome. None of us thought of that. Which is really the whole point.
St. Martin: Thank you.
Borton: So, I think it's fantastic.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor, I don't have much more to add, so maybe just a suggestion along
the lines of the conversation. Maybe it is up to two and that way you don't feel
obligated. If there is one that's really stellar and one that's kind of eh, that you don't feel
like you have to bring two, that maybe, again, as the project manager you have a
certain amount of authority to justify and, again, if we get one and Council says, oh,
well, what else is out there, that that gives you an opportunity maybe to present some
more information. For the record I do like the idea of a rubric or a scoring metrics of
some kind so that Council can understand this is the benchmarks that it hit and that's
why this project is being selected. Not required, but just -- I'm supportive of that if that's
something that would have come forward.
St. Martin: I have been in the back pocket -- or a gal that's doing this program in Boise
similarly, she's been in the back pocket for me. She's given me a lot of reputable
information that could -- that we could make for Meridian and they do have something
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similar and that's one of the things we would be highlighting in the mandatory workshop.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: And, Mr. Mayor, just to kind of piggyback on your earlier comments, that this
first year I think it's going to require some flexibility and see how it goes and -- you
know. Because I could even envision a project that's fantastic for 25 and you have two
others at ten. Well, within the budget and manageable for three, that we might go, uh,
who knows, you know. A couple questions, though, Jodi. One, if you are looking at a
National Night Out launch, are you looking at creating some brochures, whether they
are tri-folds, postcards, flyers, whatever that we can have to hand out to people, talk to
people about, do your marketing, you know, that sort of thing?
St. Martin: Absolutely. One thing I -- one thing I love to do is advertising and putting
things together in marketing ways and I -- that's something I would definitely take on
myself.
Hoaglun: Great. And the other question that I have is -- we have talked about, you
know, who is eligible for this. It could be individuals, it could be organizations. What --
what if someone applies and it's an Eagle Scout project? Does that fit within the realm?
St. Martin: That would be great.
Hoaglun: Appreciate the presentation. It was very helpful. Thanks.
Simison: Okay. Council, anything further?
Cavener: Good job. Thanks, Jodi.
Simison: All right. You will see this as an enhancement in your budget and, then, like I
say, assuming it looks like it's going to move forward we can prepare for an August 3rd
-- or National Night Out launch appropriately.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Maybe just -- I know that we are talking a certain monetary amount for the
project, but if we could maybe tack on eight, maybe 15 dollars more so Peepaw can get
a new name tag for his door, I would certainly be in support of that.
Borton: And, Mr. Mayor, I have to ask -- I'm curious about -- it's not a Texas phrase I'm
familiar with. I don't know what that stands for. Does that stand for old man or what?
I'm not --
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Cavener: Distinguished leader.
Simison: I was going to ask our CFO if he wanted to talk about the program, but he's
welcome to respond in any way he would like to any of these comments.
Lavoie: I believe Peepaw is much younger than Papa, so that's all I recall. So, Papa
Borton is definitely in order.
Simison: All right. Thank you. Council, with that we have reached the end of our
agenda. Do I have a motion?
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: I move that we adjourn.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to adjourn the meeting. All in favor signify by
saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it. You are adjourned.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:51 P.M.
(AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
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MAYOR ROBERT E. SIMISON DATE APPROVED
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK
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