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September 27. 2005
The regular meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 7:02 P.M.,
Tuesday, September 27,2005, by Mayor Tammy de Weerd.
Members Present: Tammy de Weerd, Keith Bird, Shaun Wardle, Charlie Rountree and
Christine Donnell.
Others Present: Ted Baird, Anna Canning, Len Grady, John Overton, Ron Anderson,
and Dean Willis.
Item 1:
Roll-call Attendance:
Roll call.
X Shaun Wardle
X Charlie Rountree
X
X Christine Donnell
X Keith Bird
Mayor Tammy de Weerd
De Weerd: I will go ahead and open up the regular meeting for City Council. It's
Tuesday, September 27th. It's 7:02. Welcome to our meeting tonight. And we will start
with roll call attendance.
Item 2:
Pledge of Allegiance:
De Weerd: Thank you. Tonight we will be led in the pledge by Troop 122. If you will
come forward, boys, and if you will all rise.
(Pledge of Allegiance recited.)
Item 3:
Community Invocation by Pastor Bud Henthorn with Meridian Gospel
Tabernacle.
De Weerd: Thank you, guys. I do have pins for you. They are City of Meridian pins.
And I'd like to thank you for joining us tonight. Good luck with your badge. Thank you.
Okay. Item No.3 is our community invocation. If you will all join us in the community
invocation or take this as an opportunity for a moment of silence. We will be led today
by Pastor Bud Henthorn with the Meridian Gospel Tabernacle. See, you had me so
fluster I thought I was going to have to do this.
Henthorn: Anybody can do my job. No. Really. That's -- we believe that with all our
hearts. That is the foundation of what the church is all about, is that anybody can
approach the throne of God, but not everybody can be the mayor of the city or the city
council, so -- Father, we are so grateful tonight for the ability to come boldly into your
presence, to know that here we will find your love and your grace, that we will find your
embrace. God, we have so much to be thankful for. You have been so good. You
have been so kind. We thank you, Lord, for these young men that have come and led
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us in the pledge of allegiance tonight and their commitment to scouting and to their
program. God, we thank you for them. We thank you for the amazing young people
that are in this community. We are grateful for them. We thank you, Lord, for our own
children and we could go on and on and on about all the good things that you have
brought into our lives. For now, Father, let us simply ask that you would forgive us for
the very breath that was used for something other than declaring your praise. We ask
now, Father, that your blessing and your order, that your authority and your wisdom
would prevail in this room this evening, as we turn our thoughts and our attentions
toward doing what's best for this incredible community that you have put us in, given us
leadership in. We ask it in Jesus' name, amen.
Item 4:
Adoption of the Agenda:
De Weerd: Thank you. Okay. Item No.4 is adoption of the agenda.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: We do have an addition. Under Department Reports, Item C, from the Mayor.
We have the appointment of the Planning and Zoning Commission. And Item No. 19
on the regular agenda, our ordinance number is 05-1185. And with that I move that we
adopt the agenda as revised.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. Motion is to approve the agenda as amended. All those in favor say
aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 5:
Consent Agenda:
A.
Approve Minutes of August 23, 2005 City Council Regular
Meeting:
B.
Approve Minutes of August 30, 2005 City Council Special Meeting:
C.
Scope of Services for Water Division Buildina with BRS
Architects:
D.
Eaale Road Waterline Abandonment Agreement with Civil
Survey:
De Weerd: Item 5. Consent Agenda.
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Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I would move that we approve the Consent Agenda as published and for the
Mayor to sign and the Clerk to attest on all proper papers.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. The motion is to approve the Consent Agenda. If there is no further
discussion, Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 6:
Department Reports:
A.
Planning Department - Anna Canning
1.
COMPASS ReQuest for Updated Aerial Photoaraph:
De Weerd: Thank you. Item 6, Department Reports. We will start with the planning
department. Anna.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, in your packet you have received a
letter addressed to Mr. Matt Stoll. It's very simple. All they are asking for is permission
to spend 15,000 dollars on some updated aerial photographs. They have already got
the money budgeted for aerial photographs. They decided. not to get a comprehensive
new update and they put that off until 2007. But, in the interim, they wanted to purchase
these at a much reduced rate. Now, they are not as high as quality as the ones that we
will get in 2007, but they will provide a useful service. So, all they are asking is that
because they can't run it by the Compass board, that the city send a letter stating they
are in support of Compass using those funds for those aerial photographs.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any questions?
Bird: I have none, Mayor.
De Weerd: Do you need a motion?
Canning: I'm getting nods yes.
De Weerd: Then do I have a motion?
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
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De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: I move that we authorize the planning director to draft a letter to Compass in
our support for the updated aerial photographs.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. The motion is to approve the request from the planning department.
All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
B.
Police Department - John Overton
1.
Staffing Request Change - two Part Time Code
Enforcement Officers to One Full Time Position:
De Weerd: Okay. Item B. Captain Overton.
Overton: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I come before you tonight with a
request for a staffing request change within our code enforcement section of the police
department. Recently we had one of our two part-time code enforcement officers retire.
Within a few weeks after that our second part-time code enforcement officer retired,
leaving us two part-time openings. At that time we looked very seriously at what the
costs would be to replace that position with a full-time position with full benefit package,
versus the two part-time employees. My calculation showed it would be -- it would cost
us about another 600 dollars to bring on a full-time code enforcement officer, because
of the difference in the hourly rate between what we were paying the part times and the
full times. I received an e-mail from Reta in Finance and I like her calculation even
better.
De Weerd: I do, too.
Overton: Reta says we will actually save 1,700 dollars by moving to a full-time position
with benefits, versus the part time. Our main emphasis for doing this, of course, is it
allows us a lot more consistency in the scheduling and assignment of duties and
responsibilities and, quite honestly, we can attract a much larger and better candidate
pool when we are dealing with full-time employees and benefits. And I'd stand for any
questions on that.
De Weerd: Captain, have you thought about how to distribute the workload and the
areas of focus? I certainly know that this Council has had a lot of concern about signage
and enforcement. Have you taken a look at the structure and looked at how duties
would be allocated?
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Overton: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I haven't gotten to the point yet to
decide how those would be distributed. A lot of that would depend, probably, on the
qualifications and expertise of our next employee and what areas they may be strongest
in. I do know -- and I just had this done for me yesterday -- that we are seeing a really
sharp increase in the number of code enforcement violations we are dealing with, to the
point that between January and May we were dealing with over 1,100 illegal signs and
201 abandoned vehicles. And those numbers are just continuing to climb on us. And
that's only for the first five months of this year. So, a lot of that will be decided after we
get a third employee on board and decide which area of expertise they work the best in
and how we want to divide that city up and assign those duties out.
De Weerd: Do you have an idea of the time frame that it takes in going out and
recruiting and hiring?
Overton: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, the good news is it doesn't take as
long as it does to hire a police officer.
De Weerd: That is good news. Council, any questions?
Rountree: I think it's a good idea.
Bird: I think it's a great idea.
De Weerd: All we would need, then, is authorization to add an FTE and I would need a
motion for that.
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: I would move that we recommend approval of the request from the police
department to add one full-time employee, instead of the two part-time employees for
code enforcement that were approved during the budget cycle.
Donnell: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. The motion is to approve the request to convert the two part time
into one full time. Mr. Berg, please, call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
C:
Mayor - Reappointment of Planning and Zoning Commission:
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De Weerd: Thank you. Okay. Item C. In front of you you do have a list of our Planning
and Zoning Commissioners and what the reappointment dates would be to. Are there
any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Donnell: No.
De Weerd: I was going to put this on the agenda next week and list it by name, but
since they have a meeting on Monday, I thought we better get it done.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I would move that we approve the appointments to the Planning and Zoning
Commission -- or the reappointment as of October 1 st, 2005, for Keith Borup, expires
January '07. Dave Zaremba, expires January '09. Wendy Newton-Huckabay, expires
January 2010. And David Moe expires January '09. And Michael Rohm expires
January '08.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. The motion is to approve the appointments of the planning -- or
reappointments of the planning commission. If there is no further discussion, Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 7:
Items Moved from Consent Agenda:
De Weerd: Thank you. I will be bringing the parks commission reappointments next
week. Item 7. There were no items moved from the Consent Agenda.
Item 8:
Tabled from September 20, 2005: FP 05-057 Request for Final Plat
approval for 16 commercial building lots on 10.9 acres in a C-G zone for
Dorado Subdivision by Kimball Properties, LLC - northwest corner of
South Eagle Road and East Overland Road:
Item 9:
FP 05-059 Final Plat approval of 3 commercial building lots on 1.8 acres
in a C-G zone for Southern Springs Subdivision No.3 by The Land
Group, Inc. - southwest corner of East Overland Road and South
Meridian Road:
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Item 10:
FP 05-060 Final Plat approval for 43 single-family residential building lots,
1 school lot and 1 common area lot on 22.24 acres in a R-8 zone for
Paramount Subdivision No.1 0 by Paramount Development, Inc. -
north of East McMillan Road and west of North Meridian Road:
Item 11:
FP 05-061 Final Plat approval for 39 single-family residential building lots
and 1 common area lot on 9.45 acres in a R-8 zone for Paramount
Subdivision No. 11 by Paramount Development, Inc. - north of East
McMillan Road and west of North Meridian Road:
De Weerd: So, we will move to Item 8. Anna, on Items 8, 9, 10 and 11, are there -- are
there agreements on each of these items or do we need to separate them out?
Canning: Madam Mayor, we have agreements on each of those items.
De Weerd: Okay. Council.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve FP 05-057, FP 05-059, FP 05-060, and FP 05-061.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. Motion to approve Items 8 through 11. Mr. Berg, will you call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 12:
Continued Public Hearing from September 13, 2005: AZ 05-032
Request for Annexation and Zoning of .56 acres from R6 to L-O zone for
West Carol Street Professional Center by James and Carrie Jewett -
1560 Carol Street:
De Weerd: Thank you. Item 12 is a continued Public Hearing from September 13th. I
will go ahead and reopen this Public Hearing with staff comments.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, just to give you a brief update. As I
understand it, the applicant did conduct a neighborhood meeting. Two of the neighbors
were able to attend. At that meeting they decided that to install a seven-foot cinder
block wall on the west property line and the applicant had also previously committed to
moving arborvitae from the east property line over to the west. Some of them will be on
the north and he will put some to the west as well. And there is a change in the house
style. These are the proposed elevations. The Council's direction was to make it more
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-- look more like a house than it had previously been shown. And we have some floor
plans. Oh. And there is the other elevations. And there was also an update from
ACHD on some of the traffic concerns and I will let them go ahead and discuss that with
you. I believe Bruce Mills is going to speak to that topic tonight. Staff will answer any
questions.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any questions for staff?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: I have none.
De Weerd: Is the applicant here? If you will, please, state your name and address for
the record.
Jewett: Carrie Jewett. 1820 East Bowstring Lane, Idaho.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Jewett: First of all, Madam Mayor and Council men and woman, Jim wanted me to
apologize. He did not realize that he was already scheduled for another city meeting
tonight and he wanted me to reiterate or really let you guys know -- I'm not used to this,
as you can tell. If you want to table this until the end of the evening, he should be able
to get here. However, I think in meeting with the neighbors -- I don't want to speak for
them. I think we have done everything that you asked of us and the neighbors seemed
pleased -- as pleased as they could be for having it still be an L-O. So, in my opinion --
I'm hoping we can get through it, but if you feel like we need to table it until later in the
evening, Jim wanted me to make sure that you had that option or -- so, I guess I just --
De Weerd: Okay. Well, we will see -- Council, do you have any questions?
Rountree: I have none right now.
Donnell: No.
Bird: I don't, Mayor. I'd just state that if -- at the end if we -- if she feels when she
comes back for a rebuttal that we need to hold off in that and she could do that.
Jewett: Okay. I can go through -- do you want me to go through it real quick?
De Weerd: Yes.
Jewett: Okay. As Anna stated up on here, we did meet with the neighbors. We
actually met outside when we last -- with the neighbors that were here to set up an
evening and to discuss some of the changes that they would like to see and a lot of it
was they wanted the office space to look more residential. They didn't want the metal
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roof. They were worried about lighting and different issues of such. So, we addressed
those -- Anna, can you put the new rendering up? We changed the floor plan -- or the
elevation, which is quite a bit different -- if you have in your packet from the previous
one, which this, to me, still looks very residential and not like an office space. There
were other concerns, but was the lighting, because of the other neighbors -- commercial
neighbors that have hindered them. We have told them that we will be putting the
lighting in the eaves that will shine down with what you have very similar out here and
I'm sure code will want us to have a small post at the entrance of the driveway, like you
see at homes in the driveways. But we assured them that there would be no tall posts
with lights that would be hindering them. We suggested a different type of fence, just as
an on option, and they said, no, they wanted a concrete fence and we had absolutely no
problem with that. We will bring it out to -- I believe we can go 20 feet and, then, step
down to three feet out to the sidewalk. Jim did speak with ACHD and Bruce is here to
explain what they have agreed to do and I don't know if it's a one hundred percent fix for
the neighbors, I know it's a huge step forward. I was just able to see it out there. It is
going to prevent some left-hand turns and a lot of backing up along -- north on Locust
Grove. So, it's been -- and left-hand turns out of Wal-Mart. So, I will let Bruce address
that. With that, I will stand for any questions that you have right now, as, again, we -- I
spoke -- I think we have come to a pretty good agreement. But I will let them speak for
themselves.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Any questions, Council?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Is there anyone who would like to provide testimony?
Bruce, probably you should come and explain the traffic mitigation.
Mills: Thank you, Madam Mayor and Council members. Bruce Mills, Ada County
Highway District. I thought I should probably get up first, just so I can explain to the
neighbors what we have planned. Our traffic department gave me this little sketch. It's
not exactly what you call high tech engineering, but in any event, we are looking -- see if
I can get this thing to work. We are going to put a center curb median here and more of
a bulb out there, which will prevent people from coming south and right now, as I
understand it, they are stacked and they are staying in this lane forever as they head
south. So, we are going to actually put a bulb there. This will prevent left turns out of
Walgreens and also left turns in, so it will eliminate a conflict with somebody turning left
out of here and people turning left out of here, which we feel is going to be a good
interim fix. Whether it will be the final fix remains to be seen. It will still allow left turns
in and out of Carol and the Fred Meyer area. But for now we feel this will be a good fix
and our traffic department said that they intend to install this very soon. So, I'll stand for
questions.
De Weerd: Council, any questions?
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Donnell: Yes. Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Donnell.
Donnell: Mr. Mills, would you -- just a point of reference. The large roof is Fred Meyer?
Or is that --
Mills: This is Walgreens. It's north going up this way. Fairview is just down here. Fred
Meyer is over in this area.
Donnell: Okay. Thank you. I was just turned around. Thank you.
De Weerd: Is there any testimony from the neighbors? If you will, please, state your
name and address.
McRoberts: Jennifer McRoberts. 1490 Carol Street.
De Weerd: Thank you.
McRoberts: Madam Mayor and Council Members. Carrie and Jim Jewett did have our
meeting and they did address all of our concerns that we had, in addition to the ACHD,
which wasn't part of their primary concerns, but they did understand our concern there,
and we appreciate that. As neighbors our first thing -- our goal was stated in our
petitions and our letters is not to have a business there. But if the Council so chooses
to give an okay to this, they have made it so that we -- it's something that we could live
with.
De Weerd: Okay.
McRoberts: And I did want to question on the ACHD testimony, are they going to have
a designated turn lane there or is it just going to -- you know, is the curbing going to go
up, so it's designated left-hand turn lane. It will block that? It didn't look like you were
going to do that.
De Weerd: Okay. We will ask him to clarify that. Thank you. Thanks, Bruce.
Mills: So, let me understand. Are you asking is it going to be designating a left lane
here at this intersection? I'm sorry, but I don't know the answer to that. It would be an
awful short distance from here to be able to put a designated left turn lane in. My guess
is that at the present time they will probably just put this median in first and see how it
functions and after that, if they can stripe in a left turn lane, the taper will be very short
going from here to there, but it's something we'd look at on an as-needed basis.
De Weerd: Isn't there a middle turn lane there right now? Yeah. I thought there was a
painted one.
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Mills: Is there a left turn lane there now? If that's the case, we are probably just re-
striping what we have there.
De Weerd: Okay.
Mills: It may very well be that we are just behind in this area in striping. I don't know.
De Weerd: Yeah. I think there is a middle turn lane. Okay.
Mills: Well, they know more than I do, so I'm not much help up here.
De Weerd: Well, we are glad you came up and winged it.
Mills: Thank you.
De Weerd: So, that middle turn lane will not go away. They will keep that. They will
just run the curbing up. Just to prohibit the left turn movement out of Walgreens, so --
okay. Any further testimony? Would you like any final word?
Jewett: I'm Carrie Jewett. 1820 East Bowstring, Meridian, Idaho. I would just like to
thank the Council members and the neighbors also for working with us. We do this on a
daily basis and some of them are easy and some are a little more challenging and this
one -- it started out a little more challenging for me when I went to change the CC&Rs,
but it ended up I thought very nice and I think we will make good neighbors and I just
really appreciate everyone wanting us to step back and to take the time to work
together.
De Weerd: Thank you. Okay.
Canning: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Canning: I did want to point out you don't have Findings. Craig wanted to know what
your action was before he prepared the Findings, so --
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Okay. Council?
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Hearing no more discussion, I guess nobody else wants to testify, I move we
close the Public Hearing on AZ 05-032.
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Rountree: Second.
Donnell: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. Motion to close the Public Hearing on Item 12. All those in favor say
aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Do we have any discussion or do I have a motion?
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I have got a statement. This development is doing something that -- I believe
when we approved Walgreens a few years back, there wasn't supposed to be any left-
hand turns out of that originally and this way we are going to stop that at least. We are
finally getting them in compliance with what we had approved. So, at least -- I believe
that my way I thinking, I think that the Jewetts have went out, met with the homeowners,
and I think they are pleasing them as much as they can. Made it at least look like a
residential building. I don't believe that that type of office is going to create that much
more traffic in that corner, really, but I do appreciate that, that they were willing to work
with the neighbors and stuff. I think it's as good a project as we can get there on that
corner. And it does stop the left-hand turns out of Walgreens before somebody got
killed.
De Weerd: Okay. Any other comments? Okay. Do I have a motion?
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Let me get my glasses on so I can read. I move that we approve AZ 05-032, the
request for annexation and zoning of .56 acres from R-6 to L-O zone for the West Carol
Street Professional Center and to find -- and to draw up the Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law, including all staff, applicant, and public testimony, with all
agreements made by the applicant as far as fencing, the design, roofing material, and
include ACHD comments.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. A motion to approve the application. Have we provided all the clarity
staff needs to prepare Findings?
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Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, if Council member Bird could explain
a little bit what he meant by the ACHD comments. Did you want them included as
conditions or just as comments?
Bird: No. I want them as conditions, because that's part of the traffic calmer coming
down there. That would be my -- and I would think that we can legally do, can't we, in
Findings? Maybe it's not in our realm to do that, beings how it's a street thing, but --
Canning: I'm not sure that we can condition approval on ACHD performing a work task
off site.
Bird: Okay. Then I have to withdraw that part.
Canning: Okay.
Bird: We will just take it for Mr. Mills' statement.
De Weerd: On the word of ACHD.
Bird: On the word of ACHD.
De Weerd: And we heard him swear.
Bird: I didn't know whether we could legally do that or not. I was hoping we could, but -
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Madam Mayor, since I was the one who sent the folks out the door and
instructed them to get together, I want to thank the Jewetts and the neighbors for
coming together in a group that doesn't often get thanked, but, Mr. Mills, thank you for
ACHD becoming part of that, because you, in fact, are a part of the solution. But thank
you.
Bird: I will echo that.
De Weerd: Is there any need to clarify the outstanding issue that was discussed on the
13th on the 20 foot wide landscape buffer to the north?
Canning: You're right, Madam Mayor. I forgot that that was an issue. Just a moment.
The Council needs clarify --
De Weerd: Anna, what was staff's recommendation on that?
Canning: That they have a ten foot buffer. So, Council just needs to clarify that that's
okay.
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Bird: The motion maker says that is fine.
Rountree: Second agrees.
Bird: The second agrees.
De Weerd: Okay. Okay. If there is no further discussion or clarification needed, Mr.
Berg, will you, please, call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 13:
Public Hearing: VAC 05-015 Request to Vacate City of Meridian water
and sewer easements for Marce Subdivision by James R. Wylie - 3070
Fairview Avenue:
De Weerd: Thank you. And I would like to encourage the Jewetts to stay involved in
the homeowners association as a vehicle to keep the open dialogue and, again, to
thank both sides of this for communicating and working through and finding a
compromise. We appreciate your time. Okay. Item 13 is Public Hearing VAC 05-015.
I will open this Public Hearing with staff comments.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, the applicant his requesting that the
city allow them to vacate water and sewer easements that were recorded as part of the
Krispy Kreme Subdivision. This has recently been re-subdivided as Marce Subdivision,
but the old easements and plat notes were still there, so we are just asking to vacate
those easements. The Planning and Zoning Commission has recommended approval
at their September 1 st, 2005, hearing. There were no key issues of discussion and no
outstanding issues before Council and just to let you know, this should be one of the
last ones you see. These will no longer come before the City Council.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you, Anna. Would the applicant like to make comment?
Okay. In agreement with staff comments. Thank you. Okay. The applicant is in
agreement with the staff report. Are there any questions or information requested from
Council?
Bird: I have none, Mayor.
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Seeing no further comment, I move that we close the Public Hearing on Item
13.
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Donnell: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. Motion to close the Public Hearing on Item 13. All those in favor say
aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Do I have a motion?
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: I move we approve Item 13, V AC 05-015, and to approve the Findings.
Donnell: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. The motion is to approve Item 13. If there is no discussion, Mr.
Berg.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 14:
Public Hearing: PFP 05-004 Request for Preliminary Final Plat approval
for 3 single family residential building lots and 1 common lot on 1.58 acres
in a R-4 zone for Woodward Estates Subdivision by Cortland Walker -
southwest corner of South Crestwood Drive and West 1ih Street:
De Weerd: Item 14 is Public Hearing PFP 05-004. I will open this Public Hearing with
staff comments.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, this is Woodward Estates and the
application is at the southwest corner of Crestwood Drive and 12th. And for the life of
me today I couldn't figure out whether it was 12th Street or 12th Avenue, in all honesty.
But the application is before -- that is before you is for a combined preliminary and final
plat. As you can see, the existing site is vacant up toward Crestwood and, then there is
an RV storage on the southern portion of the property. The applicant is proposing three
single-family residential lots on the north end of the property and, then, the remainder of
the property will be platted as one lot. It's a common lot for the Central Valley
Homeowners Association, which is on the east side of the road. The gross residential
density is 1.89 units per acre. That's the net as well, because there are no streets. And
as I mentioned before, the other lot is an RV storage lot. The Planning and Zoning
Commission recommended approval at their September 1 st hearing. Cortland Walker
spoke in favor of the application and Corey Makizuru from Central Valley Homeowners
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Association commented on the application and he mostly answered questions about the
irrigation. That was one of the major issues of discussion. You can kind of see right
here there is an island in 12th Street that currently has not had vegetation or at least live
vegetation in it. The pressurized irrigation has been out for a number of years, so they
have not been able to maintain it. So, that was -- the status and ownership of that
landscape island was a topic of discussion, as well as the maintenance of the RV
storage common lot. But there were no changes to staff's initial recommendation. And
to our knowledge there are no outstanding issues before Council. I'll answer any
questions you may have.
De Weerd: Council, do you have any questions for staff?
Bird: I have none, Mayor.
Rountree: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Is the applicant here this evening? If you will, please, state your
name and address for the record.
Walker: Cortland Walker, 1500 South Heidi Place in Meridian.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Walker: Yeah. There was someone else that tried to develop this before a couple of
years ago and had some health problems and the family asked if I would take it over.
So, we just ask that we be able to change that into three residential lots and the big
concern with it was the median there, which in the comment from Ada County Highway
District, they were hoping it would go away, but they say they don't have any funds to do
it, so I will probably take that on myself, to just to move that concrete thing down the
middle and pour some blacktop in there. So, other than that, you know, what else
would you like to know?
De Weerd: Okay. Council, do you have any questions for the applicant?
Bird: I have none, Mayor.
Walker: It's just been a really ugly corner for a number of years and I thought that we
could put some, you know, 1,500 square foot homes in there and -- which is larger than
a lot of the homes down along the Crestwood and the Crestwood Estates Subdivision.
And it would really add to it, rather than -- and just get rid of any ugly spot.
De Weerd: Okay. Well, thank you. Is there anyone that would like to testify on this
application? Okay. Seeing none --
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
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De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Hearing no further testimony, I would move that we close the Public Hearing
on Item 14.
Donnell: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. Motion to close the Public Hearing on Item 14. All those in favor say
aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: I would move that we approve Item 14, PFP 05-004 on Woodward Estates
Subdivision to include applicant comments to approve the Findings.
Donnell: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. The motion is to approve Item 14. If there is no further discussion,
Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 15:
Public Hearing: CUP 05-040 Request for a Conditional Use Permit to
modify the Conditions of Approval for CUP 05-030, in order to allow the
existing building at 703 North Main Street to remain and to allow a public
use in the O-T zone for Farmers and Merchants State Bank by Farmers
and Merchants State Bank - 703 North Main Street:
De Weerd: Okay. Item 15 is a Public Hearing CUP 05-040 and I must make comment.
It's always nice to see the high school students here. You know, we almost have to pay
your government teachers to give you extra credit to have you come and sit through
this, but always glad to see you. I will open the Public Hearing with staff comments.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, this is a request for a conditional use
approval for the Farmers and Merchants State Bank, the former offices that are still on
the same lot as the current new offices. The location is 703 Main Street, which is at the
corner of Main and Broadway, as you know. The existing structure is shown in this
aerial and, as you know, the -- much of the rest of this has changed. This is the site
plan. You can see how the new building would work with the parking layout of the old.
The current structure is 3,981 square feet and we are just talking about the one
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structure. The issue that's before you tonight is -- was originally two fold and it's kind of
whittled its way down to one. The original request was to allow public use, specifically
City of Meridian use of that structure. As of the 15th that is now an allowed use in that
structure and does not necessarily require the conditional use approval. However, there
is a condition of approval for the new Farmers and Merchants State Bank that
addressed this structure and what that says is the applicant shall remove the existing
Farmers and Merchants State Bank building upon occupancy of the new building
facility. We have delayed that so that we can get this before you and the question
before you tonight is whether or not you will remove that as a condition of approval for
the new bank. Planning and Zoning Commission did recommend approval and there
was one person commenting and that was Mark Stewart from the Washington Federal
Bank and that is the one just to the north of the existing structure. The key issues of
discussion were the drive-thru access from Main Street through here and access to the
Washington Federal parking lot for vehicular circulation. And related to those two
issues they did add two conditions of approval. One was to place a bench or a planter
at either end of the drive-thru aisle, so that people wouldn't continue to use that drive-
thru aisle coming off Main Street and the other condition was to enter into a cross-
access agreement with Washington Federal and, then, the existing curb located on the
north property line, specifically here where it joins their parking lot, would be removed at
Washington Federal's expense. So, Washington Federal agreed that -- to remove that
and what that allows them to do -- you can see they have angled parking. Right now
they can't really get out very effectively and this would allow them to come through and
gain access to Broadway or to loop around and go back out the alley. So, to our
knowledge there are no outstanding issues before Council and I will answer any
questions.
De Weerd: Anna, did they give a date certain that extended the condition of removing
this building, that it would be removed at a certain time?
Canning: No. At this point we are just recommending that the condition be removed.
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Anna, in our current code what would be parking requirements for -- did you
say 3,900 square feet of office?
Canning: I will have to look that up. Give me just a moment.
Wardle: Okay.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, Councilman Wardle, the -- for the
entire site -- so including the new facility, it would require 83 parking lots or spaces. The
property was granted a parking variance for 46 on-site spaces and 13 off-site parking
spaces. So, that's a total of 59.
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Wardle: Thank you.
Canning: And that's -- yeah, that's under the new code.
Wardle: Madam Mayor, follow up?
De Weerd: Okay.
Wardle: Anna, not necessarily under the new code, but it was approved with the
variance under our old code; right?
Canning: The variance was approved under the old code, but the 83 parking
requirement is under the new code, I believe.
Wardle: Thank you.
De Weerd: Okay. Any further questions? Is there anyone who would like to provide
testimony on this application?
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I do have a question for legal. I don't know -- is there any way, once that building
is not being leased or used out, is there any way that we can make sure it comes down?
Because they were the ones that asked to have it removed when we approved the new
building. So, is there some stipulation we need to get in this or does that come
sometime later? Mr. Baird?
De Weerd: Mr. Baird.
Baird: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, Councilmember Bird, you can certainly
-- if it is your desire to revisit the question of whether the building stays or whether the
building comes down and the plaza gets built, you can tie that to a certain event and the
one event that this Council will know is when the current tenant loses its lease. So, I
would suggest that as the time frame -- not saying, necessarily, that you will require the
building to be removed, but to give you the opportunity to review the situation once
again. So it is, in effect, putting a time limit on the CUP. And as I'm saying this, I want
to confer with the planning department as well to make sure this doesn't create an
administrative problem for them. I think we can workout something similar to what I
have last said, but if we could have the opportunity to hear from Director Canning, it
might help us find the right solution.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I think we have done sunset clauses
on conditional use permits before, where you have just revisited them to make a
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decision as to whether you want something to continue or go. So, I'm sure we could
craft something that would work in this instance.
De Weerd: Well, certainly, when this proposal was brought in front of Council it was the
intent of being temporary in nature and that it would -- the building would still be
removed, so that the plaza would be constructed. And so I would hope that that intent
would remain as well.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Bird.
Bird: I got a follow up here, then. Which CUP would we refer to? It would be the
original CUP, wouldn't it, Anna, that we would want to revisit, the one that stated the
tear down within a certain time?
Canning: Yes, sir. And that's 03-050.
Bird: 050?
Canning: This is basically a modification to that, but we have given it a new number.
Baird: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I want to make sure -- do we have a
misprint in the current agenda that refers to approval of CUP 05-030?
Canning: Yes, there is.
Baird: It is 03-050?
Canning: Yes.
Baird: Okay. Let's make that change for the record, so that we are clear. In the second
line of agenda Item 15, referring to CUP, should read calendar year '03. The CUP
number is 050.
De Weerd: Okay.
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Just a suggestion that if we condition -- and certainly I agree that the applicant
brought this forward with the intent of having a plaza and thought it would benefit their
project. My suggestion would be to allow that applicant some time to be able to plan for
that, to have the building torn down and to have that reconstructed and I would say that
certainly a 12 month time frame would be enough time for that to happen and would
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recommend that -- depending on how legal staff crafts, that potentially it would be 12
months from the termination of the lease.
De Weerd: Mr. Baird, does that work?
Baird: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I think I have actually heard two
possible proposals tonight. One, the first question was can this issue come back to you
for consideration on whether the building comes or goes. What Council member Wardle
seems to be discussing is the possibility of putting this on automatic pilot that as soon
as the lease or any extension thereof ends, that they would have 12 months to remove
the building. You can go either way. We can craft it either way. The decision is yours
to make.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: A comment on that. This actually was proposed by the developer and the
bank originally, to remove the building and construct a plaza. To the city's benefit they
have agreed to allow the building to stay and be occupied by the city. It seems
somewhat unfair to me that the city would, then, hold them responsible for the plaza in
the future at the increased inflated cost of building that plaza some two years from now.
Though I believe they probably would agree to that, given the nominal fees that they are
charging for rental space, it seems to be somewhat of an injustice there. I don't know
how we get around that legally. But they are, in fact, doing this deal to benefit the city
and we ought to recognize that.
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: And I agree, Mr. Rountree. The question that I have -- and I don't remember
from the original application. Was this property to, essentially, become part of the
downtown streetscape and, essentially, be a public area?
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. Yes. And -- but the -- there was
always a little bit of a conundrum in that the downtown design guidelines actually
encouraged buildings close up to the street, similar to the existing building and a public
space would be kind of tucked in amongst them, not necessarily out on a corner. But
there is a value in having any public plaza. But two years from now -- I guess I would
like the Council to consider the fact that two years from now this may not be an
appropriate place to have a public plaza, if it's the only one going on there. And that's
why I didn't put back in the sunset clause for the building. I thought if they still really
want to do the plaza, they will take down the building and do it. If for some reason they
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don't feel it's necessary, then, maybe that plaza will already be established somewhere
else downtown. I think that the applicant -- part of the reason that they wanted to tear
down the building initially was that they felt they -- people wouldn't be able to see where
the new building was and I think that those concerns aren't there like they used to be
and --
Donnell: Council President? Or now Madam Mayor.
Wardle: Mrs. Donnell.
Donnell: Thank you. It seems to me, hearing the thoughts expressed by Councilman
Rountree and given those choices, that -- that our counsel has given us, that it seems
that the best decision we can make at this point right now is to make a motion that
would, in fact, bring this back to the Council in two years or whenever that time is, that --
you know, that the building is vacated. That's just my thoughts. Rather than to try --
Bird: Is that a motion?
Donnell: Shall I make it one?
Bird: You bet.
Donnell: As soon as we close the Public Hearing or have we already?
Rountree: No.
De Weerd: No.
Donnell: Are we ready to do so?
Bird: I am.
Rountree: Go ahead.
De Weerd: Council?
Donnell: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Donnell.
Donnell: I would make a motion that we close the Public Hearing on CUP 05-040.
Wardle: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. Motion is to close the Public Hearing on Item 15. All those in favor
say aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Donnell: And Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Donnell.
Donnell: I would make a motion that we approve the request for a change in the
conditions of approval for CUP '03-050 and -- in order to allow the existing building to
remain and, then, to request that this be brought back before the Council for their review
at a time when that building is vacated. Does that work, Anna?
Rountree: By the city?
Donnell: By the city. Oh, yes, indeed. By the city.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. Motion is to approve with the changes noted. Mr. Bird.
Bird: The problem is it's just not the city that's leasing it. We have got MDC over there
and we have got SBA. So, it is the vacancy of when the city moves out and maybe they
don't -- hopefully, they will move with us, but there is no guarantee.
Baird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: I think Mr. Baird is going to tell you that the city is the tenant --
Bird: And they are subleasing to us. Yeah.
Donnell: Okay.
De Weerd: Mr. Baird, did I read your mind?
Baird: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, that's correct. We hold the primary
lease and the sub leases are geared to certainly extend no longer than the city's
tenancy. So, if you -- if your motion -- motion is approved, it would, indeed, at such time
the city vacates the property the matter would come back before you. And I just want to
clarify that the purpose of it coming back before you is to reconsider whether the
building should remain or whether the original condition should be enforced and you will
review conditions at that time.
Canning: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Is that correct in the motion? Yes.
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Canning: Madam Mayor, if you could indulge me for a moment. Mr. Baird, if they are
on conditional use, should it be the Planning and Zoning Commission, instead of the
City Councilor because the original one was approved by City Council, should it be the
City Council?
Baird: Let's see. Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, under the new code
conditional uses are approved by and the final decision authority is the Planning and
Zoning Commission. However, I would think that by specific mention in this motion if it's
the Council's desire to have involvement in the decision of whether the building stays or
goes, you can put that into the motion that this would be administered under the rules
that were in effect at the time of the original CUP. If that is your desire as a Council.
Otherwise, I think Director Canning does point out a good procedural change that we
are experiencing here is that final decision authority, unless there is an appeal, would
now be at the Planning and Zoning Commission.
De Weerd: Would the motion giver have specifics to that?
Donnell: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Donnell: Is that the desire of the Council, for it to be included under the old code?
Bird: Yes.
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Madam Mayor, certainly to answer Mrs. Donnell's question, it would be my
preference -- and one of the things that I would say for the record, when brought back to
the Council is if it is the intent of that Council to have a plaza at that location and to
make, essentially, a public use, then, certainly some partnership or participation or
some sort of consideration should be given to the applicant based on the use and,
obviously, their generosity towards the city and the community.
Donnell: So -- Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mrs. Donnell.
Donnell: So, the motion is, in fact, revised to include the statement that it would fall
under the old code or the old CUP whichever it was under.
De Weerd: Does the second agree with that--
Rountree: Second agrees.
Donnell: Is that good, Anna?
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Canning: That works, ma'am.
De Weerd: And we will have to call you back to rule on that.
Donnell: You won't even find me.
De Weerd: Is there any further discussion? Mr. Berg.
Berg: Thank you, Madam Mayor. Just to clarify that we will prepare new Findings for
the Council to approve.
Donnell: Thank you very much.
Canning: To approve whatever.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 16:
Public Hearing: AZ 05-039 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 4.99
acres from RUT to R-8 zone for Pisa Place Subdivision by Howard
Jenkins - 3893 South Locust Grove Road:
Item 17:
Public Hearing: PP 05-038 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 16
single family residential building lots and 1 common area lot on 4.99 acres
in a proposed R-8 zone for Pisa Place Subdivision by Howard Jenkins -
3893 South Locust Grove Road:
De Weerd: Thank you. I will open up Items 16 and 17, Public Hearing AZ 05-039 and
PP 05-038. I will open this with staff comments.
Canning: Look, there is the building. I forgot to show that to you. Sorry. Madam
Mayor, Members of the Council, this is Pisa Place. It's located at 3893 Locust Grove
Road. The applications before you tonight are for annexation and zoning and
preliminary plat. The property surrounding this has been previously platted, so this is
kind of a five-acre remainder piece at this point. The applicant has proposed 16 single-
family residences and one common lot along Locust Grove on 4.99 acres in a proposed
R-8 zone. The existing house here has been worked into the design. They will no
longer take access from Locust Grove Road. The gross residential density is 3.21 units
per acre. I did want to point out since this is less -- this preliminary plat is less than five
acres in size, they are not required to have open space lots, other than the street
buffers. But the applicant has proposed detached sidewalks and that's why the right of
way looks so wide as you come into the project. It's a standard right of way and, then, it
gets very wide within the project. And that's to accommodate the detached sidewalks
and parkway within the right of way. So, that will be a planted parkway with street trees.
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The Planning and Zoning Commission has recommended approval at their September
1 st hearing and no one testified in opposition to the application. The key issues of
discussion were related to a cross-access easement for the existing house. And the
issue is -- depending on where they exactly take access to this street, the intent is to
take access from the entrance to the other subdivision. And they may need to cross
that landscape buffer. If their driveway does do that, then, we need to have a recorded
cross-access agreement for that house. And that was the only change to staff's original
staff report or conditions of approval and to our knowledge there are no outstanding
issues before Council.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any questions for staff?
Bird: I have none, Mayor.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: How do you restrict -- Anna, how do you restrict access to Lot 7 from the cul-
de-sac?
Canning: We didn't want to restrict access from the cul-de-sac. We wanted to restrict
access from Locust Grove.
Rountree: I understand that, but you're telling me they are going to access from the
new subdivision to the north --
Canning: The way their driveway is oriented it would logically -- you'd come in from the
north. So, they'd like to do it that way. They do still have access on the cul-de-sac. So,
they potentially have two access points.
Donnell: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Donnell.
Donnell: Anna, can you just go back to the aerial? Is there a -- okay.
Canning: You can see from the aerial that everything is to the north right now and they
just wanted to maintain that.
Donnell: Okay.
De Weerd: Okay. Any further questions, Council?
Bird: I have none.
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De Weerd: Hi, Kent. State your name and address.
Brown: For the record, Kent Brown. 1800 West Overland, Boise, Idaho. And I
represent the client Howard Jenkins. We are in agreement with all of the conditions of
approval. We have recorded a cross-access easement with our neighbors to the north,
the Chatsworth Subdivision. Our development is consistent with what this Council
approved for Chatsworth. We have larger lots in this area, as we tried to accommodate
the existing house. This is a circular driveway in the front of the house, with a canopy
kind of going over the top of it. It is bricked around the outside of that, so it would be
difficult for someone to access that portion from the cul-de-sac. The garage to the
house is right here in this location. It just made kind of sense to do that. We are
proposing to bring landscaping here that helps create a better entrance for where the
development is. One of the other items discussed in the Planning and Zoning hearing is
that we have water that enters our site down here at this location and currently there is -
- I think the previous owner tried to create like a berm. It's basically just a big pile of dirt
and rock and you really can't see where the pipe enters and so it kind of backed up one
of the neighbors across the street. With the other developments, there is, basically, a
pipe all the way to the corner property that that delivers water to. When we did Tuscany
Lakes, Briggs Engineering, we piped that portion and, then, there is also Roseleaf and
Chatsworth that another developer did and they have piped it to our property line and
we will continue it so it will be all in pipe all the way through. There is also a ditch back
here in this corner that the neighbors are piping and we will continue that piping to the
property to the south.
De Weerd: Okay. Anything further? Council, any questions?
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Mr. Brown, you talked about the larger lots and I don't have that great of
vision anymore. Just out of curiosity what are some of the sizes?
Brown: I don't have that great of vision either. I'd have to go over and look, too. These
are 6,500 that are in this area. They are consistent with the R-8 zoning. These are
larger than that and these are also larger.
Canning: Madam Mayor, I can help Mr. Brown out.
Rountree: It's not critical, just curiosity.
De Weerd: We should ask the planner.
Canning: The largest lot is 10,300 and, then, we go to 7,600, 9,000, 9,300 -- 76 and 93.
Rountree: That's good. I just needed to get the scale. Thank you.
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De Weerd: He wanted to stump the planner. Is there anyone who would like to provide
testimony on this application? Okay. Seeing none --
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: I move that we close the Public Hearing on Items 16 and 17.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. Motion to close the public hearings on Items 16 and 17. All those in
favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Any discussion or do I have a motion? Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Madam Mayor, I move that we approve Item 16, AZ 05-039, annexation and
zoning for Pisa Place Subdivision, to include all staff, applicant comments, in addition
the comment that a cross-access agreement has been granted and to approve the
Findings.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. There is a motion to approve Item 16. Is there any discussion? Mr.
Berg.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Okay. Item 17. Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Madam Mayor, I move that we approve Item 17, PP 05-038, the preliminary
plat for Pisa Place Subdivision and to approve the Findings.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion to approve Item 17. Is there any discussion? Mr.
Berg?
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
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Item 18:
Public Hearing: MI 05-010 Request for a Miscellaneous application for
approval for a sales trailer located in Redfeather Estates Subdivision
No.2 in an approved R-4 zone by Packard Estates Development, LLC -
Lot 2, Block 3 of Redfeather Estates No.2:
De Weerd: Okay. Item 18 is Public Hearing MI 05-010. I will open this Public Hearing
with staff comments.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, this is a request for an approval of a
sales trailer at Redfeather Estates. When they applied the Council was the decision
making authority on the miscellaneous applications. Since that time the approval is now
at staff level for a temporary use. We would have kept it on your agenda if we had a
complete application to evaluate. Unfortunately, we didn't and we have had a hard time
getting the information we need. So, what we are asking tonight is that you accept the
applicant's withdrawal letter for having a miscellaneous application and that you take the
fees they have applied for the miscellaneous application and apply them toward the
temporary use and we will just do it at staff level.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Is there a motion needed for that?
Bird: Yes.
Canning: You're the only ones that can waive the fees. So, yes, I do need a motion.
Rountree: Okay.
De Weerd: It is listed on our agenda as a Public Hearing. Is there anyone in the
audience for this item? Okay.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move we close the Public Hearing for Item No. 18.
Bird: Second.
Canning: Okay. Motion close the Public Hearing on Item 18. All those in favor say
aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
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Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Not having written down all of Mrs. Canning's explanation, I move that we
approve Item No. 18 per the explanation provided by the planning administrator.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I need -- I need for you to accept the
withdrawal and, then, a motion to direct staff to --
Rountree: You need two motions.
Canning: Well, no, you can combine them. I'm sorry. But you need to also direct staff
to apply the funds towards their temporary use.
Rountree: Madam Mayor, I amend my motion to clarify what the planning director
explained, that we accept the request from the applicant to withdraw their application
and to apply the fees towards a miscellaneous application.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. Well, you heard that motion.
Rountree: Close enough.
De Weerd: Mr. Berg.
Donnell: Getting to sound like me.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 19:
Ordinance No. 05-1185 RZ 05-009 Request for a
Rezone of 4.53 acres from I-L to C-G zone for Porky Park Subdivision
by VJ Joint Venture - south of Pine Street and east of North Eagle Road:
De Weerd: Okay. Item No. 19 is Ordinance No. 05-1185. I will ask the city clerk to,
please, read this ordinance by title only.
Berg: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. Ordinance No. 05-1185, an
ordinance finding that VJ Joint Venture, the owner of certain real property has made a
written request for a rezone of the zoning classification for Porky Park Subdivision, for
real property located on the south -- I couldn't pass it up. Sorry. - one-half of Section 9,
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Township 3 North, Range 1 East, Meridian, Ada County, Idaho, as described in
Attachment A of this ordinance and rezoning certain lands and territory situated in Ada
county, Idaho, and within the corporate city limits of the City of Meridian and rezoning
the land use zoning classification of said lands from I-L to C-G in the Meridian City
Code, providing that copies of this ordinance shall be filed with the Ada county
assessor, the Ada county recorder, and the Idaho State Tax Commission as required by
law and providing for a summary of the ordinance and providing for a waiver of the
reading of the rules and providing an effective date.
De Weerd: Thank you. You have heard this ordinance read by title only. I'm sure no
one out there wants to hear it read in its entirety, do you?
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Hearing no one wanting it read, I move that we approve Item 19, Ordinance
No. 05-1185, with suspension of rules.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. Motion to approve Item 19. Mr. Berg, will you call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Donnell, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Well, we actually saw you all last to the very last minute.
That's amazing. We appreciate you hanging in with us. Council, do I have a motion to
adjourn?
Rountree: So moved.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: All those in favor? Okay. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Thank you for joining us.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:13 P.M.
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