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Zaremba: Okay. Next is Irvine Subdivision and I will open the continued public
hearings AZ 05-038, PP 05-037, and CUP 05-039 and entertain a motion to continue
those to October 6th.
Moe: Mr. Chairman?
Zaremba: Commissioner Moe.
Moe: Yes. I move -- I move the public hearings for AZ 05-038, PP 05-037, and CUP
05-039, be continued to the regularly scheduled Planning and Zoning meeting of August
the 6th, 2006.
Rohm: October 6th?
Moe: October 6th. What did I say?
Rohm: Second.
Zaremba: Motion and a second to continue these to October 6th, 2005. All in favor say
aye. Anyopposed? That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 13:
Public Hearing: AZ 05-041 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 10.15
acres from RUT to R-8 zone for Woodburn Subdivision by Centennial
Development, LLC - 840 West Ustick Road:
Item 14:
Public Hearing: PP 05-041 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 47
single family residential building lots and 10 common area lots on 10.15
acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Woodburn Subdivision by Centennial
Development, LLC - 840 West Ustick Road:
Item 15:
Public Hearing: CUP 05-042 Request for Conditional Use Permit for a
Planned Development for Woodburn Subdivision that includes
reductions to the minimum requirements for lot size, street frontage and
setbacks by Centennial Development, LLC - 840 West Ustick Road:
Zaremba: Okay. Now, we are ready for one we are really going to deal with. I will
open the public hearings for AZ 05-041, PP 05-041, and CUP 05-042, all relating to
Woodburn Subdivision and we will begin with the staff report.
Hood: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission. The subject site is located
on the west side Venable Lane, approximately 600 feet north of Ustick Road. It's
outlined in purple in the overhead. It is just west of a future school site here that was
platted with Baldwin Park and south of the approved Sienna Creek Subdivision. You
can actually see an outline of that plat there and the lots within that subdivision. The
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site has not be previously platted and is designated mixed use community and medium
density residential on the 2002 future land use map. There is a neighborhood center
shown on the Comprehensive Plan approximately this half noon location here. A
portion of it -- a large portion of this site is within that mixed-use designation. I will flip to
the next slide. There has been a car wash, convenience store type business right here,
approved by the city with a development agreement for that site, so part of that
neighborhood center has been approved. To the south of the subject site is still rural
residential, zoned RUT in Ada County. The same with the west of the site, there are
some large parcels still in Ada County, zoned RUT. The subject annexation, zoning,
preliminary plat and Conditional Use Permit include 47 build-able lots and ten common
lots. This is the landscape plan. It depicts pretty well the common areas, the build-able
lots. There are 24 attached lots here. This is a grouping of five town-homes. There is
a grouping of three, three, and four and four. So, different number townhouses on the
interior, with the exterior lots being single-family detached lots. The gross density of the
subdivision is 4.63 dwelling units per acre. The planned development includes a
request for reductions to the minimum lot size for primarily the townhouse lots, although
a lot of the detached lots also do request some deviations from the standards, including
minimum lot size, the street frontage, and the setbacks of the R-8 zone. As amenities,
the applicant is proposing open space in excess of 13 percent of the site, playground
equipment here in the middle of their large open space area, and a picnic area on Lot
13, Block 3, as well. With the internal pathway system, there are detached sidewalks
and the micro-paths and pathway through their large open area in the middle of the
project. Access to the development is proposed off of -- this is Venable Lane down to
Ustick Road, proposed from the east, and a stub street that was approved with Sienna
Creek Subdivision from the north. That will be extended into the site as well. There
weren't really a lot of changes for staff in the report. Just a couple to mention, originally
the landscape plan did show a tot lot more over in this location. After discussing with
the police department, we recommended that the tot lot be moved more centrally to this
open space area, that way patrol can -- patrol in the neighborhood can have eyes more
on that tot lot from all directions, makes it more visible and accessible, even to the entire
subdivision. The other change that we had is a fairly new one. The first time I have
written it into a staff report. In conjunction with ACHD's new standards for parkway
strips -- it's hard to tell at this scale, but the detached sidewalks we do require an eight
foot detachment parkway between the back of curb and the face of the sidewalk there.
So, they were showing -- five is what's been standard for a long time and just working
with ACHD and the root systems of trees, we have enlarged those for these different
classifications of trees. So, those were the two changes that I just wanted to point out.
I will show you an elevation of one of the townhouse lots quickly. Each townhouse will
also contain an element of architectural relief, such as stucco finish, brick or rock, and
includes some vinyl shutters. Staff is recommending approval of AZ 05-041, PP 05-
041, and CUP 05-042, for Woodburn Subdivision, with the conditions of approval as
noted in the staff report. And I will stand for any questions you may have.
Zaremba: Thank you. Commissioners, any questions? Okay. Thank you. In that case
we are ready for the applicant. And while he's coming forward, I forgot to mention we
have this handy light system. When the green light is on you have time to talk. The
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yellow light will come on warning you that it's time to conclude. And when the red one
comes on we ask that you discontinue. Thank you very much. Mr. Nickel.
Nickel: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Shawn Nickel, 52 North 2nd Street in Eagle,
representing the developer and the Woodburn Subdivision. I'm not going to add too
much at this point to staff's presentation. Craig did a good job. We are fine with
relocating that tot lot. I think that's a good idea to get it more centrally located, to
provide better connection with the pathway system to that central location. The rest of
the conditions of approval as recommended to you by staff are acceptable to my
developer. This is sort of a continuation of the Sienna Creek Subdivision. Different
developer, but same concept. More of a mixed housing type with the single family
detached and those attached units towards the middle. Keeping in mind that the
Comprehensive Plan does call this area out as medium residential at three to eight units
to the acre. So, the 4.6 is -- I think is a good -- a good density for our application. So,
with that I'll stand for any questions you have.
Zaremba: Commissioners, any questions? Great. Thank you.
Nickel: Thank you.
Zaremba: We do have a couple of people signed up to speak, but first let me ask if
there is any representative speaking for a group on this issue? Okay. Shane Baker,
please.
Baker: Thank you, Mr. Commissioner. Shane Baker. I live at 707 West Ashby Drive,
the neighborhood adjacent. Could I ask clarification from staff about the zoning of those
adjacent neighborhoods? Cedar Springs?
Zaremba: We, actually, ask them. You ask us and we ask them, but if staff would
comment. I believe some of them are R-8.
Borup: I think Cedar Spring is R-8. Did you say you're in Cedar Springs?
Baker: Yes.
Borup: But you don't know what your zoning is?
Baker: No.
Borup: Okay.
Baker: It's not contiguous with Cedar Springs, but I consider it adjacent in my definition
of the term. My back window would look out on the development.
Zaremba: Well, our staff report always has what's around it and I'm not finding it.
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Borup: Right. That's because it's not contiguous.
Baker: I signed up to comment on -- specifically on AZ 05-041. I guess my comments
are really relevant to CUP 05-042. That is I don't see anything in the applicant's
proposal that would suggest that we -- that the commission or the city should allow any
reductions to the requirements for lot size, street frontage, or setbacks as stipulated in
the existing zoning. So, this constitutes an increase density from the surrounding
subdivisions, I think, and I don't see anything really in the proposal that would warrant
that in terms any kind of amenities or considerations that would offset the negative
aspects of increasing that and giving a variance against the existing zoning. So, I would
be opposed to the proposed Conditional Use Permit as currently stated. Thank you.
Zaremba: Thank you. Also signed up is Katie Baker. Her husband spoke for her.
They are in agreement, which is good. Those are the only ones we have signed up,
although there is an opportunity, if somebody did not sign up, to speak if you wish to. If
not, we will ask the applicant to return, please.
Nickel: Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Commissioners. Again, Shawn Nickel. I
appreciate the neighbor's comments. And just to explain the concept of planned
development, first of all, the -- our proposed density is 4.63 dwelling units per acre and
we are asking for the R-8. Cedar Springs is at 4.3 dwelling units per acre. So, density
is --
Zaremba: Give us those numbers again slowly, please.
Nickel: 4.3--
Borup: Both sets of numbers.
Nickel: 4.68?
Borup: 6.3 is what the staff report says.
Nickel: And 4.3 on Cedar Springs. Sienna Creek was 4.43. And Baldwin Park I didn't
have a chance to calculate. But it's up there as well. Around four units to the acre. The
purpose of the PUD, you know, is to provide for reduction in the lot sizes in exchange
for usable open space amenities, things that are not found in typical subdivisions that
would meet the base zone. So, with the PUD that we are proposing, we are providing
13 percent open space, along with a pathway system, a tot lot, and a picnic area as our
amenities. So, that's the trade-off for allowing the reduced frontages and lot sizes. And,
again, we are doing that to try to meet that mixed use -- or mixed housing type and to
get that density up to what the Comp Plan anticipates. So, that's, for the record, and for
the neighbors.
Zaremba: Thank you.
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Nickel: Any questions?
Zaremba: Any questions from the Commissioners?
Borup: No questions.
Zaremba: While you're standing there, we just confirmed with staff that one of the ideas
about the neighborhood center is that it's kind of an expanding radius of transitions,
there being commercial retail in the middle of it and, then, a little bit higher density about
the location where this project is. And, then, the next circle out would be a little lower
density. Am I interpreting that correctly?
Hood: That's correct. And without making the neighbors' upset, that is this -- I mean
this density I think is a good transition. Staff personally, if you would just look at the
Comp Plan that way, probably even higher densities would be more consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan. But we thought this was a good transition, being that there
already were established subdivisions, to not go to that eight dwelling units that the
Comprehensive Plan is looking at as a goal in this area and so we thought it was a
pretty good compromise, getting them up to a little bit higher than what is around there,
but it's not quite as high as what was envisioned back in 2002, so --
Zaremba: Okay. Thank you.
Nickel: And, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, just to follow up" we did meet with staff
during the design of this to see if we were -- to make sure we were on the right path, to
make sure we didn't want to try to incorporate some higher density or maybe some
commercial and this was kind of the way we all decided to go, including the staff. So,
that's a result of that plan you see in front of you.
Zaremba: Okay. Thank you.
Nickel: Thank you.
Zaremba: Commissioners, discussion?
Borup: Lot sizes, you know, got reduced, but as far as density and compliance with the
zone and everything else, it's right in there.
Moe: I thought that's just fine.
Zaremba: Okay.
Moe: Mr. Chairman, I move that we close the --
Zaremba: Commissioner Moe.
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Moe: I move that we close the public hearings on AZ 05-041, PP 05-041, and CUP 05-
042.
Rohm: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed?
Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIES: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Moe: Mr. Chairman?
Zaremba: Commissioner Moe.
Moe: I move that we recommend approval to the City Council of file numbers AZ 05-
041, PP 05-41, and CUP 05-042 as presented in the staff report for the hearing date
September 15th, 2005, preliminary plat dated July 10th, 2005, and site plan dated July
10th, 2005. End of motion.
Rohm: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed?
Motion carries. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 16:
Public Hearing: AZ 05-036 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 10.30
acres from RUT to a R-8 zone for Larkspur Subdivision No.2 by
Larkspur LLC - 200 and 205 East Rosalyn Court:
Item 17:
Public Hearing: PP 05-035 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 50
building lots and 4 common lots on 10.30 acres in a proposed R-8 zone
for Larkspur Subdivision No.2 by Larkspur LLC - 200 and 205 East
Rosalyn Court:
Item 18:
Public Hearing: CUP 05-038 Request for Conditional Use Permit for a
Planned Development for reduced minimum lot size, frontages and
setbacks on 10.30 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Larkspur
Subdivision No.2 by Larkspur LLC - 200 and 205 East Rosalyn Court:
Zaremba: At this time I'd like to open the Public Hearing for AZ 05-036, PP 05-035, and
CUP 05-038, all relating to Larkspur Subdivision. And we will, again, begin with the
staff report.
Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. Larkspur Subdivision
is proposed east of State Highway 69 or South Meridian Road as it's known south of