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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2020-07-14 Work Session Meridian City Council Work Session July 14, 2020. A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 4:34 p.m., Tuesday, July 14, 2020, by Mayor Robert Simison. Members Present: Robert Simison, Joe Borton, Luke Cavener, Treg Bernt, Jessica Perreault, Brad Hoaglun and Liz Strader. Also present: Chris Johnson, Adrienne Weatherly, Bill Nary, Jenny Field, Caleb Hood, Tracy Basterrechea, Joe Bongiorno and Dean Willis. Item 1: Roll-call Attendance: Liz Strader _X_ Joe Borton _X_ Brad Hoaglun _X_Treg Bernt X Jessica Perreault _X Luke Cavener _X_ Mayor Robert E. Simison Simison: All right. We will go ahead and call this meeting to order. For the record it is July 14th at 4:34 p.m. We will begin this meeting with roll attendance. Item 2: Adoption of Agenda Simison: Item No. 2 is adoption of the agenda. Bernt: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Bernt. Bernt: I move that we adopt the agenda as presented. Hoaglun: Second the motion, Mr. Mayor. Simison: I have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as published. Is there any discussion on the motion? Strader: Yes. I would like to discuss. Simison: Council Woman Strader. Strader: I would like us to consider delaying Consent Agenda Item H until later on in the meeting, so we can get an update from Central District Health regarding their mask order or their mask mandate and potentially have a discussion about future meeting topics. Bernt: Mr. Mayor? Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 98 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 2 of 17 Simison: Councilman Bernt. Bernt: Just to confirm, Council Woman Strader, are you saying you want to move this consent item to maybe a different meeting or -- or later on in -- in this particular meeting, in our workshop? Strader: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Council Woman Strader. Strader: Yes. I would prefer to move it to the end of the regular session if that's possible. I just feel like it's a good placeholder to get an update, if there is one available, if we take a short break and then -- that feels like a natural time to get that update and, then, essentially, pass the item. Simison: Mr. Nary, do you have a guidance on moving something off of this agenda's Consent Agenda item to another agenda -- to the regular meeting agenda? Nary: Mr. Mayor, yeah, I wouldn't move it to the regular meeting agenda, I would move it just to the end of this agenda, because, again, it hasn't been noticed for that. I did speak with Council Member Strader earlier today. I mean this is a very narrowly construed subject. So, definitely I think what she's asking is to have a future meeting topic discussion broader than just what this covers, but I wouldn't move it off of this agenda to a different one, I just would move it to the end of this one. Simison: So, we were talking about just moving it to Item 4? Nary: Correct. Simison: And, then, potentially delaying that item until after Items 5-A and 5-13 is what -- Nary: That's what I would say, yes. Simison: -- their direction would be. Strader: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Council Woman Strader. Strader: I think at a minimum, if it's possible to move it to the end of this meeting, would make sense. Again, I'm not sure if I will be introducing a future meeting topic or not. I just think as part of the discussion about the ongoing emergency declaration that it would make sense to get an update, if there is one available, from the Central District Health meeting that I understand is taking place soon. It's possible that meeting will run over and there will be no update. We could certainly have a discussion again about future meeting topics later in the regular session. It just felt like a related item to me. Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 99 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 3 of 17 Cavener: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Counselman Cavener. Cavener: I know that Mr. Nary is maybe having some technical assistance right now, but I'm trying to understand why -- what risk we have in continuing this item to later on in our -- in our main meeting. Clearly in the past when we ran out of time in our workshop we have moved items to the main meeting for consideration. I think Council Member Strader has a good point in that some of this could potentially be -- some of the questions maybe that any of us might have about this item we are proposing to continue could be addressed via the district health meeting and so I think -- I guess I'm struggling to see the issue with moving it to our main meeting. I just need some -- a better explanation about that as to why. Simison: Mr. Nary, would you like to give Councilman Cavener a better answer or a different answer than you provided? Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, we were trying to figure out some echo problems here. But, basically, my only concern is -- is we are adding an agenda item to the regular agenda that hasn't been noticed. As a future meeting topic discussion you can talk about whatever you want, both for this meeting, as well as the next meeting. So, again, Council Member Strader and I talked -- this particular -- this particular resolution I don't think is related to a future meeting topic, but -- but maybe I'm wrong. But the discussion beyond just this -- this resolution certainly could be a future meeting topic, but you can't get into much of the meat of it today. It's really identifying that future conversation. Borton: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Mr. Borton. Borton: To that point, though, at the regular meeting -- at the 6:00 o'clock meeting -- I mean this is just process, not substance, but to say at the 6:00 o'clock meeting we could amend that agenda at that time due to unforeseen emergency, new circumstances being the -- the meeting that's taking place today and, then, add a topic at 6:00 p.m. at least to provide an update and discussion on whatever happens at today's 4:00 o'clock meeting. Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, Council Member Borton, you are absolutely right -- you are absolutely right, we can add it for that purpose if we have enough information to provide that, yes. Borton: And that -- Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Borton. Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 100 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 4 of 17 Borton: That action would happen at the start of the 6:00 o'clock meeting. So, we could stick on today at 4:30 and, then, do with it what we want and -- but also add it at 6:00 if we so choose. Nary: Yes, sir. That's fine. Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Hoaglun. Hoaglun: I'm just trying to figure out, though, how giving you -- continuing this Local Disaster Emergency Declaration for another 30 days -- whether they do or they don't, it will put you in a position of deciding what actions you will take and if, for example, if they say, yes, we are going to make masks mandatory, you still need emergency authority for expenditures and other things that might happen in the 30 days. It doesn't matter about the masks, whether they do or not. So, giving you that authority to act in these emergency situations and expenditure of public money, et cetera, that -- that's still a good thing. I don't know if we need to wait to see what happens, because if you have that emergency authority and you decide to act on something else or something similar or what have you, that authority does exist. I would like some clarification -- if Council Woman Strader could kind of enlighten me on what would we need to do that's outside of that authority that we would have the Mayor execute. Strader: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Council Woman Strader. Strader: I think what I'm trying to achieve is a way to get an update on Central District Health that's related to an agenda item that's already on the agenda today and so if -- if there is another way to get an update, that's fine. I feel like it's a related topic and so it felt like a natural place to have that conversation, but if there is a different method to do so I'm open to it. Certainly I am not proposing that we not continue the Mayor's emergency declaration for funding reasons and other reasons. I just thought this seemed like a natural place in the agenda where it would make sense to get an update at the end of our meeting regarding the Central District Health meeting. That's all I was trying to do. Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Council Member Hoaglun. Hoaglun: And, then, I'm thinking if -- if we do remove it, put it under Item 4, and then -- which is right after this Consent Agenda, and, then, delay that until after the Department Reports, we may have some information and, then, we can decide where to go from there. So, that at least gives us -- buys us a little more time if that's an option. Strader: Mr. Mayor? Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 101 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 5 of 17 Simison: Council Woman Strader. Strader: And that will work perfectly for me, if it's okay with everybody else. I just really would like that update. I feel like it's critical information for -- for all of us, not just necessarily the Mayor, but the Council and Mayor as a whole. Simison: My only question will be who is the expectation this update comes from, because they are meeting while we are meeting. Perreault: Mr. Mayor? Simison: It can't come to me, because I'm running this meeting, so -- Perreault: Could you repeat that? I didn't understand what you said. Simison: I'm asking who they expect the update to come from, because they are meeting while we are meeting. So, I'm not going to say we can't all grab our phones and look at it at some point. I'm just curious what update is expected from whom on a meeting that none of us are watching. Borton: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Borton. Borton: Is there a motion yet? Simison: There is. We are at the motion. We are in discussion of the motion. Borton: And that's to move -- Simison: Currently we are just under -- we don't have any motion to move anything off the agenda yet. We have -- we have a motion to adopt the agenda as published. There has been no -- it has been seconded. There has been no modifications to that motion yet. Borton: Got you. I will call the question on the adoption of the agenda. We will get to the consent and we can address it then. Simison: I have a motion and a second to -- the question has been called to adopt the agenda as published. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it. MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES. Item 3: Consent Agenda [Action Item] Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 102 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 6 of 17 A. Approve Minutes of June 30, 2020 City Council Budget Workshop B. Fairbourne Subdivision No. 2 Pedestrian Pathway Easement C. Fairbourne Subdivision No. 1 Sanitary Sewer Easement No. 1 D. Fairbourne Subdivision No. 2 Sanitary Sewer Easement No. 1 E. Artist Acceptance Agreement for Display of Artwork in Initial Point Gallery 1. Dwight Williams (7/31/2020-8/28/2020) 2. Ted Smith (7/31/2020-8/28/2020) F. Artwork License Agreements for Traffic Box Community Art Project 1. Julie Edwards, Under the Sea 2. Monelle Smith, Ensemble Cast 3. Raeya Wardle, The Magic of Reading G. 2020 Benefits Brokerage Services Agreement I. AP Invoices for Payment 07/02/20 - $1,391,377.19 J. AP Invoices for Payment - 07/10/20 - $809,658.66 K. AP Invoices for Payment - 07/15/20 - $2,632,407.08 Simison: Item No. 3 is the Consent Agenda. Borton: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Borton. Borton: I would like Item 3-H to be removed from the Consent Agenda and moved to Item 4. Hoaglun: Second the motion. Strader: Second. Simison: I have a motion and a second to move Item 3-H to Item 4 in the agenda. Is there any discussion on the motion? If not all those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it. Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 103 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 7 of 17 MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES. Borton: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Borton. Borton: I would move that we take up Item 5-A and B first and, then, circle back to Item 4 and we will see where we are at. Simison: Can we do Item 3 first? Borton: Probably. Sorry. I apologize, Mr. Mayor. Simison: Could I have a motion to approve the Consent Agenda as amended. Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Hoaglun. Hoaglun: I move that we approve the Consent Agenda as amended and the Mayor to sign and Clerk to attest. Borton: Second. Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda as amended. Is there any discussion on the motion? If not, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it. MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES. Simison: Item No. 4. Do I have a motion to move this item after item 5-B? Borton: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Borton. Borton: I move to rearrange four to after 5-A and B. Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Hoaglun. Borton: Second the motion. Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 104 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 8 of 17 Simison: I have a motion and a second to move Item 4 to after 5-13. Is there any discussion on the motion? If not, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it. MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES. Item 5: Department / Commission Reports [Action Item] A. Finance Department: Fiscal Year 2020 Net-Zero Budget Amendment in the Amount of $3,677,200 for Coronavirus Financial Advisory Committee (CFAC) Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act Grant Spending Authority Simison: Item 5-A. I will turn this over to our Finance Department to discuss fiscal year 2020 net zero budget amendment in the amount of 3,677,200 dollars. Field: Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. I'm here before you to ask for spending authority on a grant that we have been awarded through CFAC. Which is the Coronavirus Financial Advisory Committee. That's through the state of Idaho. The 3.6 million dollars is an up to an amount that the City of Meridian is allocated by the state. So, it is not the actual expenditures that has been expended as today, it is a budget amendment for spending authority. Do you guys have any questions for me? Simison: Council, any questions? If not, is there a motion? Cavener: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Cavener. Cavener: Council Member Hoaglun I suspect was -- and I was going to make a motion. Simison: I think he is prepared to make a motion, but I will take it from you. Cavener: All right. Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, I move we approve the net zero budget amendment in the amount of 3,677,200 dollars as a CFAC, Corona -- Coronavirus Aid Relief and Economic Security CARES Act. Bernt: Second. Simison: I have a motion and a second to adopt the -- or to approve the budget amendment. Is there any discussion on the motion? If not, clerk will call the roll. Roll call: Bernt, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Hoaglun, yea; Strader, yea; Perreault, yea. Simison: All ayes. Motion carries. Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 105 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 9 of 17 MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES. B. Community Development: Fairview Avenue Roadway Widening and Access Update Simison: Item 5-B, Community Development, Fairview Avenue Road widening and access update. I will turn this over to Mr. Hood. Hood: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. First before I get into my presentation, I just wanted to call to your attention our newest employee in Community Development in the Planning Division Miranda Carson is real. She's here. She's ready and she's already actually starting to, you know, get her feet under her and a foundation. I put an agenda item request in for two weeks from today. For your workshop next week you have a workshop with MDC, so that agenda is full, but in two weeks she will be back and she will have a draft strategy on how to engage with the school district, but I want to just let you know that-- again that she's here and -- and we are getting -- getting her ready to address you here in the next couple of weeks. So, with that, Mr. Mayor, I will continue on to the -- to the item at hand, that's the Fairview Avenue, Locust Grove to Eagle project. So, on June 9th I was here and we kind of walked through the corridor from Locust Grove -- just west of the Locust Grove intersection on Fairview to Eagle -- almost to Eagle and we kind of went through that corridor and I explained the improvements that ACHD was contemplating and that they were --they had an upcoming virtual open house. That open house was June 11th and it just closed this last Friday, June 10th -- or, excuse me, July 10th. So, I'm back to share that information. In your packet you have a draft summary of the comments received. I actually received an updated version of the summary from ACHD today. So, I'm going to just push -- put this up on the screen real quick as the summary to the project itself and, then, this is I think around 40 or 50 pages of comments that were received. They had 116 people at the virtual open house. They also had some one on one conversation with some businesses and I will touch a little bit more on that here in a second. But that -- again, that's in your packet, so you can see the comments. There were quite a few comments on the bike facilities that were proposed. There is a project team meeting on -- on Friday and that was discussed a little bit. I think the consensus from the team is what they had, which is just a traditional buffered bike lane is the best on Fairview just because of the nature of Fairview Avenue and all the driveways and curb cuts. To do something detached really just creates a lot of conflict and a lot of weaving, even for bicyclists, because they are trying to -- you don't want to go through the throat of the driveway, you got to bring them back so the cars can see them. So, think they are going to stick with a -- again, a buffered bike lane. So, two feet of striping, basically, and, then, a five foot wide bike lane with the project. I thought it was interesting just to hear from the -- the ACHD project manager that there is general business support and acknowledgement of the need for the -- for the project. I guess that isn't too surprising, but when you talk about restricting turning movements, that's just not something that's very typical. I'm not going to say that it's a hundred percent of all businesses, you can see in the packet there are a couple that already submitted letters that aren't real happy about the raised medians and the restrict -- restricted turn lanes, but for the most part -- and just an example, both Fred Meyer and D&B understand that, Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 106 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 10 of 17 they see the accidents that happen there in front of their businesses and ACHD is working with D&B in particular to relocate their main entrance further back so that they can have more stacking distance to get into their site better and that also allows the Fred Meyer kind of main entrance between the Subway and their fueling station to have more stacking lanes so more cars can access that, too. So, again, the businesses are working with ACHD on designing the best project that still meets their needs. Well, while limiting some of the turning movements in the project. They are also going to try to fit in a dedicated left turn lane, a through lane and a dedicated right turn lane at the Hickory Avenue intersection and I can kind of go there if you would like. Just going to walk through this corridor. It's been a while. A month I guess. So, here there is a center median that's been a maintenance problem. It's actually owned by ACHD. It's old enough for back in the day they are in the right of way and ACHD has it and their maintenance folks are like we are tired of maintaining this and none of the adjacent property owners really want to maintain it, so ACHD is going to rip this out, so we can get three lanes southbound, if you will, with those turning movements. I'm going to jump to Carol Street. That's another thing. So, Carol is -- feeds this -- it's a largely county subdivision. A couple of lots up front actually have annexed and converted to office lots. The current design does not have a left out for them, so they would be forced to go down through and make a U-turn somewhere else, if they were able to get all the way over to make a U-turn at Fairview, but I imagine that wouldn't be possible at many hours of the day. So, ACHD is going to try to work in a left out for them out of Carol Subdivision. So, there wouldn't be that left- in, it's difficult and the conflicts, but they are going to work on that. I think the -- to me the last outstanding issue was something we talked about last time -- was the pedestrian access at Webb. So, again, Webb is a newer roadway. There is a lot of development occurring in the Pine 43 project. So, this aerial is out of date. They are actually doing a lot of clearing in this area right now for some commercial development, but there is hundreds of apartments and residential units that are going up just off screen here and you have those services. So, again, the Fred Meyers, the Sonics, some other businesses -- retail businesses in this -- in the strip -- strip mall here. But to get there as a pedestrian or a cyclist you would either have to go down to Hickory or down to Locust Grove, which, again, they are both about a third of a mile away. So, in reality probably not a lot of folks are going to do that. They are going to wait for a break and try to -- try to get across here at some location. So, I guess my request to you is -- and ACHD is already aware of this. I gave them a heads up that we were talking about it, but if you are supportive of it I would like to send ACHD a correspondence requesting that they consider a pedestrian hybrid beacon at the intersection of Webb and Fairview. Just a little bit more context. You can see there is a portion -- this sidewalk is really wide here. This is a portion of the city's multi-use pathway. So, we are really even pushing trying to get bicyclists and pedestrians to use Webb Way that connects to Pine. But it sort -- and it doesn't dead end, but it -- but it is difficult to continue on. So, a crossing here I think just makes a lot of sense. There will be some impacts to, you know, vehicular traffic flow, but we think that the benefits of having that pedestrian-bicyclist crossing mitigates or over weighs the negative impacts those few times a day that it may be used or whatever to allow pedestrians to safely cross at that intersection. So, again, I'm happy to -- if we need to go through the corridor, if you have any other questions about those three -- three-quarter turn movements or if you want to go through the comments -- probably not comment by comment, but there is the Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 107 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 11 of 17 summary and you have got, again, the comments included in your packet. So, if you have a chance to look at that and want to discuss them I will stand for any questions you may have. Simison: Thank you, Caleb. Council, any questions? Perreault: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Council Woman Perreault. Perreault: So, Caleb, a couple of things. First, my question is -- it sounds like the public was very concerned about business access, but the businesses themselves feel like this is an improvement; is that correct. It's just a very -- very general statement. Hood: Yeah. And I -- Mr. Mayor. Council Woman Perreault, I think there is some concern from the -- the traveling public -- and I don't even know that I would characterize all businesses, just in the past projects there is more support from the businesses on this project than you would get from others and, again, a recognition that something needs to be done and I think that even -- even is true of the general public that commented on this project. So, I don't think what you -- how you summarized it is incorrect, I just -- there is comments on both sides of that. So, I don't know that I would overgeneralize those comments and say the businesses are overly in support, but the traveling public has more concerns. Honestly, there were a lot of comments about the bike facilities. I don't remember the numbers, but just going through it there was a lot about appreciating that there is some bike accommodation, but it should be more or better. Perreault: Mr. Mayor, follow up? Simison: Council Woman Perreault. Perreault: And it sounds like that the businesses have had the ability to communicate with ACHD directly about any concerns that they do have, that ACHD has met with them on a one-on-one basis as necessary is my understanding. So, I just want to make sure that those businesses also have the opportunity to give feedback just like the -- the general public has done through the survey. And, then, I just want to say I'm in support of your request for the pedestrian hybrid beacon at Webb and Fairview. I had the opportunity to be with you when the pedestrian specialist came in and did a workshop for us and I believe there was also an ACHD representative there, as well as some other members of the Central District Health and just seeing what-- seeing it through their eyes, the pedestrian specialist, it's very clear that that could be a pretty dangerous situation if people are crossing without a protected place for them to -- to move across seven lanes. So, I really would like to hear from fellow Council Members on whether they support that communication to ACHD. Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor? Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 108 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 12 of 17 Simison: Councilman Hoaglun. Hoaglun: I was going to ask Caleb regarding the pedestrian crossing. I have been trying to think in Meridian where we have a light crossing with large multiple traffic lanes --where -- where we have that and I just -- I was thinking on Franklin Road? Do we have any on Overland Road? On Linder? Simison: Right behind us. Hoaglun: That's right. Meridian Road. Right there. Simison: Five lanes at an intersection with problems. Hood: Mr. Mayor, if I -- if I can. So, yeah, they -- they are on arterials like Meridian Road. I can't think of any seven lane roadways though. There are state -- on the state highway, but those are full signals where you have pedestrian crossing. So, I don't know of any PHBs on a seven lane roadway, which this would be going to seven lanes. So, even Meridian Road is a five lane roadway. We just -- we don't have many seven lane roadways, other than the seg -- this segment of Fairview east of what's on the screen, so -- and I don't know how many even actually just in the county. Hoaglun: And Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Hoaglun. Hoaglun: And, Caleb, could you pull up that particular slide you had up showing that -- that intersection? Hood: It's up. I don't know how to share it again. Let's see. Hoaglun: If not I will --just thinking through that, as we have Fred Meyer on the opposite side, so you would have to go down the left and, then, you can cross over at Locust Grove. So, Webb Way over here on the far left. You have the Sonic. There is some various businesses there. Or you could go down to Hickory, cross, and come across. I guess where we are talking about mainly Sonic, if someone in those apartments wanted to go out and jump across to get something real quick -- and I understand that, but also if we do that, then, what if another business comes in on the south side of the street and fast food -- they can get their Diet Coke fix or whatever it is very very easily without that and, then, do we -- is there going to be reduced use of that because of -- there is now an answer to that situation. I -- I don't know. I -- I don't know if it's premature that I didn't have the benefit of the seminar that you went to, I was unable to attend, but we want to make things easier for pedestrians. We also want people to be happy -- you know, healthier, which makes them happier. So, do they walk a third of a mile to do -- go cross at a light. You know, that's -- all that kind of comes together. So, I haven't made up my mind on -- on that pedestrian crossing really. Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 109 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 13 of 17 Perreault: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Council Woman Perreault. Perreault: Councilman Hoaglun, what are your thoughts on -- I guess my main concern is less about folks who could walk, but -- but folks who might be wheelchair bound or who have a disability that makes it difficult for them to go all the way down to Hickory and to really essentially walk almost an entire mile around just to get across the street. That's -- that was sort of my main concern with the pedestrian access. In addition, I believe that Pine 43 stretches pretty much to where there is existing businesses on the south side right now. So, I don't know that there is any space left open for commercial, but maybe Caleb can give us some clarification on that. Hood: Mr. Mayor, if it's okay -- yeah. Council Woman Perreault and Council Members, that's what I was going to just mention. I mean there are -- there is pizza and teriyaki and some other things on the south side today, so, yeah, if you didn't want a burger you got whatever. There is -- there is other opportunities. There are a couple of -- of vacant lots on -- on the frontage of Pine 43. That's what I have saying. So, some of these are -- in fact, we have issued some CZC building permits for a couple of these. I don't think they are fast food, just as an example, but there will be some services. I guess the other thing that I would -- kind of what we are -- we are envisioning is some of the folks that are in those apartments -- could be the employees that also have jobs at the Fred Meyers or at the Sonic or the whatever and, yes, there is some health benefit, but, again, I think that statistics will show that people aren't going to -- they are not going to go that far out of direction when they can see where they are trying to go. They are just not going to go that far to -- to cross and they are -- they are likely to take some chances and I'm not going to try to oversell it to you, but I just don't think it's very realistic to even -- if they are able bodied to really go that far out of direction. But there are other -- there are some opportunities for -- so -- for some additional commercial enterprises. Not fully built out. But largely to the west it is -- you know, there are not a -- a whole lot of opportunity for additional. I will -- just real quick, Mr. Mayor, if I may, something that Council Woman Perreault brought up and I had -- again, part of the conversation I had with the project manager at ACHD earlier today. I don't want to misrepresent. He has not talked to a hundred percent of the businesses on the corridor and we didn't go down every business on the corridor. He did mention some that I mentioned. He did mention also Snake River Yamaha and working with them and they -- their concern is more about the ones that got put in five years ago and how the cut through traffic affects them and, in fact, they are -- they maybe don't even want the left-in to their site, because they are still concerned about that traffic and they want everybody to basically come up Jewel, which is the backside, to get in there, instead of you continuing to use their entrance as the main. But he hasn't talked to Carpet One. They have reached out to them, but has not made contact with them yet. So, just as an example. So, again, I don't want to misrepresent that they have talked to all the businesses. They have tried and they have reached out and I think they have been fairly successful in their minds anyways with that -- that engagement, but it's not a hundred percent of all businesses, so -- Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 110 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 14 of 17 Simison: Council, any further questions or comments on this information? Borton: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Borton. Borton: Are there any -- was that the single loose end, so to speak, was whether or not to include that? Hood: So, Mr. Mayor, Councilman Borton, I mean you can make any comments you want on the three quarter, you know, if you have comments that way. Anything else with --with the scope of the project. I mean it's all up for, you know, any kind of feedback. I guess I didn't close the loop. So, Brian, the PM, is going to be talking with ACHD commission next Wednesday. So, he's going to provide a similar update on all the comments he's received from both the public, stakeholders, businesses and the city if we have any. So, from my perspective and -- and sharing with the Transportation Commission, you know, I don't have anything else. That's the one thing that I would recommend is that we ask them to at least consider the PHB. I don't think it's something we pound our fists on and say you absolutely have to have it, but I would like to see them at least do the analysis, see how it functions if you put it in. See if you can design it in and what -- you know, which side would that be. To the Mayor's point, I mean we want it to function well and be safe. I don't know of any, you know, crashes or incidents out here, but there has been certainly some near misses. So, what can we do and how does that look. If it's a two stage, you cross halfway and you wait and, then, you got to cross again when there is another break -- I don't know. But asking them to at least consider something from my perspective is the outstanding issue. If you have others, though, I can relay those. Simison: And Caleb just kind of hit the nail on the head. I recognize this is different, because what we see at this -- out here is you see people utilizing the HAWK signal to try to create a break in the traffic for left-hand turn movements. Here you don't have left- hand turn movements on either side, it would be right -- right onlys out, so it does impact it a little different. So, it's not exactly. But it also goes to a larger conversation. I can recognize everything's not similar. But we have heard from ACHD that HAWK signals at intersections are not preferred. Maybe it's okay if you can't -- if you have limited turning movements, so I'm trying to be a little consistent with what we have seen what they say, but understanding maybe this is what breaks the rule for having a HAWK signal in place. Borton: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Borton. Borton: I -- I tend to agree and I think the recommendation or the request to at least consider it makes sense in light of the comments here. I think the pros outweigh the cons and the risk. The only other comment that I would suggest we make is the access restrictions are obviously a big deal and to the extent -- and I know a lot of the comments referenced it. Some of the businesses referenced it. And I don't know how each of these Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 111 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 15 of 17 are graded or score necessarily, but just to the extent there is a close call limitation on some access restriction put in place for safety considerations, that I think -- like tie go -- ties go to the business, for lack of a better term, to try and minimize the need for restrictions to access to these parcels. I don't have a particular one necessarily, but I'm -- could they take that to heart and understand if there is a close call or a business that has a particularly unique compelling request that -- that we would be supportive of that. Simison: Council, any further questions or comments? Hood: So, Mr. Mayor, I know I'm not on Council. Maybe it wasn't a long enough pause to give them a chance to answer. I did just want to say, though, kind of to Mr. Borton's comments there, there will be a second open house in September as well. So, we will take the comments from this first open house, maybe tweak some things, throw that back out there and so this isn't the only bite at the apple if you will. Maybe there are some changes to the access proposed again at Carol Street. I mentioned one they are already considering and potentially Webb. So, I can come back to you, too, later in the fall with where they are at as design progresses, too. Hoaglun: And Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Hoaglun. Hoaglun: Let Caleb know that that for the Webb Way pedestrian access, yeah, I'm not opposed to having them put that in the question and see what they say about it and we will see. Strader: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Council Woman Strader. Strader: I'm in agreement. I think they should consider it and they can --they are experts at designing them. They could take that feedback and see if it's feasible. It does seem like a really wide road to try to accomplish one of those pedestrian crossings to me, but if there is a way to do it safely I think it's worth exploring. Simison: We had an AOK and a head nod from Councilman Cavener for your benefit, since you are looking down, Caleb. Hood: Thank you. Item 4: Items Moved From the Consent Agenda [Action Item] H. Resolution No. 20-2216: A Resolution Authorizing the Fourth Continuance of a Local Disaster Emergency Declaration and its Terms for an Additional Thirty (30) Days; Authorizing the Continued Immediate Expenditure of Public Money to Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 112 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 16 of 17 Safeguard Life, Health and Property; and Providing an Effective Date Simison: Thanks, Caleb. Okay. Thank you very much. So, we are back to new item four or are we Item 6? 1 don't know technically which item -- what our number is. Council -- Strader: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Council Woman Strader. Strader: I would just point out that the -- I haven't been watching it, but I can tell that the Central District Health meeting is continuing. Councilman Borton had an idea. I didn't totally follow it. I appreciate him, though, trying to throw me a lifeline. I would like to try to find a way, if there is a break and there is a decision made, to get some kind of an update from Central District Health tonight in our various upcoming meetings and I will defer to the rest of Council on how to -- if there is a procedural way to do that. If we can do that in the open meeting topics, if we can get an update, or it has to be tied to an agenda item. And I'm talking like a quick informational update. Simison: Well, maybe my suggestion would be to approve this item, adjourn the meeting, and everyone can spend the next 50 minutes watching and they can get their own information. Borton: Mr. Mayor? Simison: Councilman Borton. Borton: I agree with some of the remarks by Councilman Hoaglun earlier with regards to the resolution. We understand the reason that it was pulled off the consent to try and facilitate this conversation, but we might have other means to doing it. So, the purpose and intent is still as valid as ever. So, I would move that we approve Resolution No. 20- 2216. Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor? Strader: Second. Simison: I have got a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on the motion? If not, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it. MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES. Simison: Do I have a motion? Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor? Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 113 of 590 Meridian City Council Work Session July 14,2020 Page 17 of 17 Simison: Councilman Hoaglun. Hoaglun: I move that we adjourn the work session. Borton: Second. Simison: I have a motion and a second to adjourn the work session. Is there any discussion on the motion? If not, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Those opposed nay. The ayes have it. We are adjourned. MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 5:13 P.M. (AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) 7 / 20 2020 MAYOR ROBERT E. SIMISON DATE APPROVED ATTEST: CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda July 21,2020— Page 114 of 590