May 19, 2005 P&Z Minutes
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zone for Crossfield Subdivision by Packard Estates Development, LLC
- 955 West Ustick Road:
Zaremba: Thank you all. Okay. We'd like to open the Public Hearing for Items 17, 18
and 19. That is AZ 05-015, PP 05-017, CUP 05-022. All of these regarding Crossfield
Subdivision. And a motion would be in order to continue these to July 21 st, 2005.
Borup: So moved.
Zaremba: So moved. Do we have a second?
Newton-Huckabay: Second.
Zaremba: Okay. We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed?
That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 20:
Discuss Request for Continuance for Bellingham Park Subdivision:
Zaremba: Okay. Item 20. This is a discussion and we are cautioned that we cannot
discuss the merits of the case itself, but we can discuss the continuance. Bellingham
Park Subdivision, I believe, has been continued too many -- three times and is now
scheduled for us to hear on June 2nd. Staff has been supplied with the details that they
need. They are prepared to write the report. The applicant has requested another
continuance, just because it's inconvenient for them to be here that night. Our
discussion is do we want to -- on June 2nd come prepared to continue it again or do we
want to insist that the applicant show up on June 2nd?
Moe: In our -- in our last discussions on this issue we set it out to the 2nd, so they, in
fact, would have everything done, over with, and we made statement, then, that if they
couldn't make the 2nd, it was over. And as far as I'm concerned that's -- if they can't
make it on the 2nd, I guess it's over.
Zaremba: I remember a similar discussion.
Newton-Huckabay: I would want to know what works for you guys, because you're the
ones that are going to have to do the work over again, potentially, and we certainly don't
want to -- you know, that all costs money.
Borup: And along that -- and along with that, it seems like I remember their last meeting
that we were pretty full that night. And I agree with Commissioner Moe, but -- was it the
2nd one that -- where you said we wouldn't get through everything? Or was that the
16th?
Zaremba: Actually, it was tonight.
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Mae: It was tonight. Yeah.
Borup: Oh, tonight was the one that was going to take us until 2:00 'clock?
Mae: Well, yeah, but don't forget, we --
Zaremba: We lost a few. And the 2nd looks the same way to begin with.
Borup: Okay. So, maybe that's -- that is one thing in consideration, if we are that
jammed up.
Rohm: I think sending the signal along the lines of what Commissioner Moe spoke is
exactly where we want to go.
Zaremba: And in --
Borup: But what if they show up and, then, we don't get through everything? Or are we
assuming they won't show up?
Rohm: Boy, that's a --
Zaremba: I suspect they would -- they ought to be able to send somebody to represent
their case, even if it's not the principal.
Moe: Well, would it be in a continued hearing? Would that not be up front anyway?
Borup: Right.
Moe: So, they are either here and we have our hearing or they are not here and they
are gone.
Zaremba: And it's over quickly. And my instinct is this is unfair to the public to keep
pushing it off, pushing it off. I mean if they go to the effort to show up when we have
said it's going to happen and, then, it gets delayed -- I mean you just get the feeling that
somebody's trying to wear them out and --
Rohm: It wears me out.
Zaremba: Yeah. It does.
Borup: And I agree. I don't think we had any public testimony on this one, did we? But
Zaremba: We may not have had.
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Borup: And Mr. Freckleton can remember back -- when I came on this Commission, I
had been here six months and there was a thing that got continued again and been --
found out it had been continued for two years. Packard Estates, when it first started. I
don't know how that ever happened, but it -- I mean every few months it would get
continued again.
Newton-Huckabay: I still maintain -- I'd like to know how staff feels on that, because,
like I said, I mean if you have to do the work again, that costs money.
Freckleton: Mr. Chair, I guess just a point of clarification. When you opened up your
comments for discussion, did you say that we did have everything we needed and we
were prepared to write a report?
Zaremba: I think it's Joe who is the --
Freckleton: Joe's the planner in Planning and Zoning.
Zaremba: The planner and I asked him before he left this evening and he said he did
have what he needed. I didn't ask him whether you had what you needed or not, but--
is it to -- to state what he said to me, his wish was that we either fish or cut bait, that we
have it on the 2nd and they are either here or they are not, but he did say that he had
the materials that he had asked for.
Freckleton: Okay. The last I knew we hadn't -- we still did not have a resolution on the
pathway issue and we have received some additional data on the groundwater study,
but -- I wish he was still here. The pathway -- Mike was just saying that he thought that
Joe was pretty happy with the pathway issue. So, I guess I'm ill-informed, so -- I guess
if it's your pleasure to move forward, we will have a staff report ready for you.
Zaremba: It would be my preference to leave it on the 2nd. The public's been told that
and --
Rohm: I think you know the position of the Commission.
Zaremba: It doesn't require any kind of a vote, but that was discussion and we will now
entertain a totally different motion.
Rohm: I move that we close the Public Hearing.
Newton-Huckabay: There is no Public Hearing.
Rohm: Excuse me.
Zaremba: Adjournment is the appropriate motion.
Rohm: There you go. I move we adjourn.
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Moe: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Zaremba: Thank you very much.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:43 P.M.
(TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS.)
APPROVED
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DATE APPROVED
DAVID ZAREMBA - CHAIRMAN
ATTESTED:
WILLIAM G. BERG JR., CITY CLERK