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Zaremba: Okay. Thank you. Does staff have any further comment?
Wilson: No. Not at this time.
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Zaremba: Okay. Commissioners?
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Wilson: Oh, yes. That is off:::siteparking. Yes.
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~~,~CC Borup: Okay. It looks to me like the parking thing could be good for both -- both groups
there, because Sundays the school would not be in session and there is extra parking
for the church and, then, probably on game nights vice-versa.
Zaremba: Works for me. Who is next?
Rohm: With that being said, Mr. Chairman, I move that we close the Public Hearing on
CUP 05-021.
Moe: Second.
Zaremba: There is a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Anyopposed? Motion
carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Zaremba: Commission Rohm.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward on to City Council recommending
approval of CUP 05-021, to include all staff comments for the hearing date of May 19th,
2005, received May 13th, 2005.
Moe: Second.
Zaremba: There is a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? That
motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 12:
Public Hearing: PP 05-018 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 16
building lots and 1 other lot on 6.26 acres in C-G and R-40 zones for
Devon Park Subdivision No.3 by Fairview Lakes, LLC - 824 East
Fairview Avenue:
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Item 13:
Public Hearing: CUP 05-023 Request for a Conditional Use Permit to
allow the Department of Motor Vehicles and a request for a Planned
Development for a 16 lot office complex for Devon Park Subdivision No.
3 by Fairview Lakes, LLC - 824 East Fairview Avenue:
Zaremba: Okay. We are ready to open the Public Hearing for Items 12 and 13 on our
agenda. That is PP 05-018, request for preliminary plat approval of 16 building lots and
one other lot on 6.26 acres in C-G and R-40 zones. And also CUP 05-023, request for
a Conditional Use Permit to allow the Department of Motor Vehicles and a request for a
planned development for a 16-lot office complex for Devon Park Subdivision No.3 by
Fairview Lakes, LLC, 824 East Fairview Avenue. And we will begin with the staff report.
Guenther: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. Devon Park
Subdivision No.3 is, essentially, a mirror -- mirrored version of Devon Park Subdivision
No.2, which was before you in the end -- middle to end of 2003. It's located off of
Fairview and there is currently -- this is -- this is the Devon Park entire site. There is the
Alzheimer's facility and the living care in this location. Devon Park 2 is over in this
location and, then, the Department of Motor Vehicles is where Hastings is also located,
in the same building, and that's closer to Fairview here. There has been a new
intersection put in and it is signalized at approximately there where I have got it
indicated. Devon Park No.3 is for these 17 lots, with Lot No.3 being the common drive
and this road here has been recently dedicated to ACHD. It was originally platted as a
private street access and through the developments a lot of different items have been
taken care of through the previous approvals. The landscaping shows where the
Hastings is. The DMV portion is right here. The purpose for the CUP is for allowance
of ä public, quasi-public, use. The DMV, actually, is there. This is basically to clean up
some other zoning issues. It's -- public, quasi-public, uses are conditional uses in this
zone. I believe they are conditional uses in any zone. This would, essentially, allow
them to get their certificate of occupancy and clear up some other legal paperwork.
This is -- there is one condition that was submitted. They did not submit the deed for,
essentially, this lot of -- this is Devon Park Subdivision No.1. Staff just requests as a
condition that they submit the deed in order to verify this building is completed and
meets the application requirements. This landscaping, the layout, the building type is all
consistent with what has been constricted in Devon Park Subdivision No.1 and 2. Staff
is recommending approval with the conditions as listed and I will answer any questions.
Zaremba: I wasn't clear whether the DMV is planning to stay in the location where they
are now or are they moving into one of the new buildings?
Guenther: No. That is their location.
Zaremba: I always thought they were going to move into one of the other ones.
Newton-Huckabay: I did, too.
Zaremba: That's their permanent location?
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Guenther: That's what has been indicated in the request.
Zaremba: All right. If they did choose to move into one of the other buildings, there
would be a new CUP hearing?
Guenther: Yes. I anticipate they would have to do a CUP, yes.
Zaremba: Okay. All right. Any other questions from the Commissioners? Would the
applicant care to come forward?
Hopkins: Randy Hopkins, a partner in Fairview Lakes, LLC. Do I need to state my
address? I live at 1390 East Mallory Lane, Meridian, Idaho. 83642. Thank you. You
just covered the DMV. It does reside in the 25,000 square foot building, the Hastings
building, and they occupy about 3,000 square feet. Actually, Hastings has an option to
expand in that space in the future, option to, and we would not be moving DMV to the
back area, it would be -- hopefully, if they stay within Fairview Lakes, which it's worked
very nice for them with the increased parking, versus the old school, we would be
moving them on what we call retail east, which is not on this plat, it's -- so it would be
more on the frontage, so they wouldn't be going back in the office area, just for
clarification. So, the -- there is two things that we'd like to draw attention to in this and
that is Hopkins Financial is in Devon Park 2 right now and when we did, actually, Devon
Park 1, the Planning and Zoning allowed the ability for us to build buildings -- of course
not to get a certificate of occupancy until the plat is recorded. It allowed us to move a
little more quickly in getting structures built and so we would like that request -- or that
clarification that was allowed, actually, in Devon Park 1 for Hopkins Financial and, then,
in Devon Park 2, actually, we allowed that to happen. Now, our plat just got recorded
on Devon Park 2, which is just on the -- we call it kind of office east and this is -- this
Devon Park 3 is office west, is, actually, Hoff Industries - is moving from out here in
Nahas's development, I believe, and they are going to be occupying in the next week.
Actually, in our development, and that allowed us just to move a little quicker. So, we
would like the ability to, you know, issue -- have you issue a building permit, but, of
course, withholding the certificate of occupancy until the plat is recorded. Number two,
the only other thing in your general conditions, item number four, we have metal halide
lights, not the 250-watt high pressure sodium streetlights, in our development, just a
tone that we have set. We would like to stay consistent in our development and that
was allowed before also. So, those just -- those two clarifications. Hopkins Financial,
we moved out of Boise. I'd just it's -- the development is getting underway. It's been
very nice and Banner Bank is going to be building on the corner, so we'd just like those
two considerations with this CUP.
Zaremba: Thank you.
Hopkins: Any questions?
Borup: Questions?
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Moe: What's your wattage on your metal halide?
Hopkins: Doug just wrote that -- I don't know what the wattage would be. He didn't
inform me of that. Generally Doug, as my partner, has come to these. I don't know.
Whatever is appropriate for the public -- you know, for the public need or whatever. But
I just know that we have -- we have those versus the sodium streetlights.
Moe: So, they would be--
Hopkins: Be consistent with the rest of the --
Moe: They would be the 250 -- 250 watt --
Hopkins: I would say equivalent, yes. Equivalent, I guess, luminance or whatever.
Moe: Okay. All right.
Zaremba: And repeating the ones that are already there.
Hopkins: Yes. Yes. Because that's what we have down North Lakes Avenue right
now.
Zaremba: Staff have any issues with that?
Freckleton: Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission, the only criteria that we have is on
public streets. Metal halide -- you do -- you do have to have a different wattage with
metal halide than you do with high-pressure sodium. It's a totally different kind of light. I
would, I guess, suggest like you were headed, that the light should just be consistent
with what was approved previously and that should be good enough.
Zaremba: Whatever wattage that is, it needs to be the same wattage.
Borup: Yeah.
Freckleton: Yeah.
King: That is fine.
Zaremba: How about a building permit before the plat's recorded? Was that the
question?
Hawkins-Clark: Chairman, Members of the Commission, just for clarification, the
request was to be allowed to submit for a building permit prior to the plat being
recorded; is that correct?
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Guenther: Correct.
Hopkins: We did that on the two previous developments, which allowed us to get some
buildings up, of course, without a certificate of occupancy.
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Hawkins-Clark: Right. I think one difference in these scenarios is that the -- the plat --
- the prior plat was one large lot; correct? So, I think the number of building permits has
already been u_sed up for the property, meaning that you started with a 23 acre and,
then, you divided and, then, you got your buildings that were permitted for that. So, I
don't think that staff would really support it.
Zaremba: Okay. Thank you.
Hopkins: Understand.
Zaremba: Okay. Thank you. We will discuss that. Okay. Mr. Hopkins spoke and Beth
Ingreth, is it? Okay. She's marked as for and she supports what's already been said.
That's all we have signed up for that. Anybody else care to make remarks? Testify?
Thank you. Okay. I guess, Mr. Hopkins, we don't need rebuttal again.
Commissioners?
Rohm: No questions.
Newton-Huckabay: I think this development is coming along quite nicely whenever I
drive by there.
Zaremba: It's very attractive.
Newton-Huckabay: It's certainly an improvement over that vacant lot.
Moe: Mr. Chairman?
Zaremba: Commissioner Moe.
Moe: I move we close the public hearings on PP 05-018 and CUP 05-023.
Rohm: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Anyopposed? That
motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Zaremba: Commissioner Moe, you're on a roll.
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Moe: Okay. I could probably do this. Let's see. Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward
on to City Council approval of PP 05-018, with all staff comments for the hearing date of
May 19th, 2005, received by the city clerk's office May 13th, 2005, with one change --
thank you. Under the preliminary plat general requirements, item number four -- under
number four where it notes high-pressure sodium, I'd like to change that to read metal
halide streetlights at a wattage as approve previously in the subdivision.
Rohm: Second.
Zaremba: There is a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Anyopposed? Motion
carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Moe: Mr. Chairman?
Zaremba: Commissioner Moe.
Moe: I move we forward to City Council approval of CUP 05-023, to include all staff
comments of the hearing date May 19th, 2005, received by the city clerk's office May
13th, 2005.
Rohm: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Anyopposed? That
motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 14:
Public Hearing: AZ 05-016 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 28.65
acres from RUT to R-15 and L-O zones for Silver Oaks Subdivision by
Charter Builders, Inc. - north of West Franklin Road and west of North
Ten Mile Road:
Item 15:
Public Hearing: CUP 05-024 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a
Planned Development for multi-family I clubhouse I office I daycare
development with no minimum street frontage and multiple buildings on a
single lot on 28.65 acres in proposed R-15 and L-O zones for Silver Oaks
Subdivision by Charter Builders, Inc. - north of West Franklin Road and
west of North Ten Mile Road:
Zaremba: Thank you. Thank you. Next we will open the Public Hearing for AZ 05-016
and CUP 05-024. Both of these relate to Silver Oaks Subdivision and we have a
request to continue these immediately to June 16th, '05, for both the ACHD action and
the staff report. Is there a motion to that effect?