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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rohm: Thank you all for coming in.
Zaremba: Thank you all. We will see you again.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman, I move we take a short break.
Zaremba: This is the appropriate time for us to take a break. We will reconvene in
about ten minutes.
(Recess.)
Item 9:
Public Hearing: AZ 05-014 Request for an Annexation and Zoning of
19.72 acres from RUT to a R-8 zone for Sicily Subdivision by Landmark
Engineering and Planning - south of East Victory Road and west of South
Locust Grove Road:
Item 10:
Public Hearing: PP 05-016 Request for a Preliminary Plat approval of 74
building lots 5 other lots on 19.72 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Sicily
Subdivision by Landmark Engineering and Planning - south of East
Victory Road and west of South Locust Grove Road:
Zaremba: Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, we will reconvene our meeting and let the
record show that all Commissioners that were here before are here again with us and
we will open the Public Hearing for Items 9 and 10 on our agenda. This is AZ 05-014,
request for an annexation and zoning of 19.72 acres from RUT to an R-8 zone and also
Public Hearing PP 05-016, request for a preliminary plat approval of 74 building lots and
five other lots on 19.72 acres, in a proposed R-8 zone for Sicily Subdivision by
Landmark Engineering and Planning, south of east Victory Road and west of South
Locust Grove Road. And we will begin with the staff report.
Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. The application
before you is for Sicily Subdivision. It's proposed for 72 building lots, five common lots,
in a proposed R-8 zone. Bordered on the east by the recently approved Roseleaf and
Chatsworth Subdivisions and, then, South Locust Grove Road. On the southwest
property line bordered by the Ridenbaugh Canal and undeveloped RUT properties and,
then, also bordered by an undeveloped RUT property on the north. It is also nearby to
Tuscany Village and, then, across Locust Grove portions of Tuscany Lakes Subdivision.
The Comprehensive Plan designation of this property is medium density residential.
The applicant has proposed 3.75 dwelling units per acre, which is in accordance with
that medium density residential. Actually, on the low end. the Comprehensive Plan
designates medium density residential as three to eight units per acre and this is much
closer to the three than the eight. The staff doesn't have many issues for the
Commission's resolution. I had spoke with the applicant and they are in agreement --
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my understanding is they are in agreement with the staff report and any conditions in it.
A few things I will point out. The applicant was required to submit a block length
variance, because of the Ridenbaugh Canal for this block, Block 1, exceeds the 1,000
foot block length variance, because of the limited opportunities to cross the Ridenbaugh
Canal. This is a variance application that staff will support and has been submitted and
would go to Council concurrently with these two applications, The applicant has
proposed 6.7 percent open space in five open space lots. I will switch here. The
landscape plan does show the large central common lot here with a basketball -- a
proposed basketball court, walking paths, and landscaping. There is also a landscape
lot in the northeast comer and, then, over here in the western portion of the property
and, then, near the cul-de-sac here by the Ridenbaugh Canal. Those four lots,
exclusive of the fifth lot along the Ridenbaugh Canal, do make up that 6.7 percent of
landscaped open area. So, technically, by code, that's what can be included in that
calculation is actual landscape, accessible open space to the residents. So, they do
exceed the five percent by quite a ways with those four lots and if he did factor in the lot
number five along the Ridenbaugh that's quite large -. I believe it's 74,000 square feet --
that's open space and along the Ridenbaugh it just, per code, isn't included in that
calculation. So, it's just above and beyond. They did provide a stub street to the north.
They take access from the east, from the Roseleaf. That road there does go into
Roseleaf -- the approved Roseleaf Subdivision that is not constructed currently and,
then, takes access to Locust Grove Road. The Chatsworth -- the road here goes into
Chatsworth Subdivision and that is a second access to Locust Grove Road, meeting fire
department requirements for two separate accesses to the property. Other than
requiring the applicant to submit the variance application, which they have done, there
was no conditions that were above and beyond what would be pretty standard with any
pre-plat and annexation request. They have requested to not tile the Ridenbaugh
Canal. Staff -- the Public Works Department has not required tiling of waterways that
would require a pipe larger than 48 inches and it's my understanding that that would
require a pipe substantially larger than 48 inches. And with that I think I'll end staff's
comments.
Zaremba: Okay. Commissioners, any questions?
Moe: I have none.
Borup: Just one of curiosity. How did this property have access to -- to the other
roadways? Is it landlocked?
Wilson: Currently until Roseleaf and Chatsworth are constructed and, subsequently,
that's also where this subdivision is getting its sewer and water service from, so ..
Borup: Yeah. Assuming that.
Wilson: -- it can't be constructed until those are. So, effectively, it --
Borup: So, it is landlocked.
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Wilson: Currently, yes.
Borup: Okay.
Zaremba: I guess on that subject of the clarification, we often put in a requirement that
they can't have more than 50 dwelling units until there are two accesses, You're saying
they can't even get in there to start building until the accesses are there, so we don't
necessarily need to add that requirement?
Wilson: That's my understanding and I believe that was Joe Silva's take, the fire
department representative, as well. And he did not include that requirement on this
subdivision.
Zaremba: Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? Okay. Would the applicant care to
come forward?
Boyle: Commissioners, Clint Boyle with Landmark Engineering and Planning, Business
address of 104 9th Avenue South in Nampa, Idaho. And I will try to make this brief and
not use up the entire ten minutes, unless you want to chat about any movies that are
coming out or anything like that. But I would request that the Commissioners use the --
that the force be with them tonight as they consider this application and we have worked
with staff on this, we have met with the parks department, and had discussions with the
planning staff as well, and I believe we have worked out all the issues. We are in
agreement with the requirements here. One of the things that I do just want to point out
on the subdivision is we did try to design this subdivision with some usable, active open
space. I know there was comments from the previous hearing requesting that. We
have a large central area that is proposed with some basketball facilities, some walking
paths, and, then, trying to leave space open as well for people to go out and throw a
Frisbee or ball or et cetera. The way that we designed the open space coming into the
project was so that with both of the connections -- street stubs, the one from Roseleaf
and the one from Chatsworth, you would get a nice look at that open space coming into
the subdivision from either of those directions. We also provided a stub street to the
north for future connectivity to the north. The staff has indicated that this particular
piece of property is landlocked and that is correct. The developer understands that
Roseleaf and Chatsworth, those streets need to be improved and platted before they
will be able to proceed with the development. Both of the projects are well on their way
to accomplishing that. Construction drawings have been submitted, my understanding,
on both of those and so they are definitely in the process of being -- being followed
through and constructed. The Ridenbaugh Canal is, obviously, a significant water
feature. I'm sure most of the Commissioners are familiar with the Ridenbaugh Canal
and so we certainly are requesting that we not be required to tile that facility. Staff has
supported that request, because it would require significantly larger than a 48-inch pipe.
And I'm sure staff can attest to that as well. With that said, I'll stand for any questions.
And, again, we agree with the staff report and the conditions found therein. Thank you.
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Zaremba: Thank you. Commissioners, any questions? No questions. All right. Thank
you. We have the opportunity for public testimony at this point. One moment while we
get the sign-up sheet. Okay. There is nobody else signed up, although there is an
opportunity, if anybody cares to speak on this subject, to come forward. I guess the
opportunity has been taken by all who wish it, in which case Mr. Boyle does not need to
provide a rebuttal on anything and, Commissioners, what's your pleasure?
Moe: Mr. Chairman, I just have a question for staff and, actually, Commissioner
Newton-Huckabay brought it up and I'm kind of curious as well. The road leading out
through Roseleaf Subdivision, are we not longer than a thousand feet now by having
that access in like that? Is there any -- anything planned going into that subdivision?
Zaremba: You're saying the Roseleaf part of it gets longer than a thousand feet?
Moe: Well, by the time you add up everything going into the -- into the new area here,
I'm sure you're over a thousand feet. And I'm just curious --
Borup: It already was.
Newton-Huckabay: Yeah. We are just making it longer.
Borup: Well, yeah, they only added a hundred feet.
Moe: No. I understand with the new subdivision. Correct. I'm just kind of curious --
any type of -- my concern is that we are going to have a nice raceway all the way
through there, then.
Wilson: Yeah. Commissioner Moe, where this application is adding one lot depth, I --
this is where you're speaking of?
Moe: Yeah.
Wilson: To that roadway, you know, the length of that would have been considered in
the previous application and where this one is only adding that little portion, we don't
have any concerns with that and wouldn't require a variance or anything like that.
Moe: Thank you very much. That's all I want to know. Mr. Chairman, I move we close
the Public Hearing on AZ 05-014 and PP 05-016.
Rohm: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Anyopposed? That
motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
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Moe: Mr. Chairman?
Zaremba: Commissioner Moe. I'm sorry, there appears to be a question before we
proceed. Commissioner Newton-Huckabay.
Newton-Huckabay: I'm trying to remember back. Did we do any traffic calming in the
Roseleaf Subdivision for that?
Zaremba: I see a wide spot in the road. There could be other --
Newton-Huckabay: Yeah. It looks like there might be -- I mean -- but I think I'm
digressing off the issue, but I just would like to know that we did. You can continue with
your motion.
Moe: Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward to City Council recommending
approval of AZ 05-014 and PP 05-016, for the hearing date of May 19th, 2005, received
by the city clerk's office on May 13th, 2005.
Newton-Huckabay: Second.
Zaremba: You're referring to the staff comments?
Moe: Staff comments. I'm sorry.
Zaremba: Thank you. Did I hear a second from Commissioner Newton-Huckabay?
Newton-Huckabay: Uh-huh.
Zaremba: That's a yes? Okay. We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye.
Any opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Zaremba: Did you combine both of those in one or did you just do one?
Moe: I did them both.
Item 11:
Public Hearing: CUP 05-021 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for
an addition for a gymnasium and commons area to existing junior I senior
high school for Cole Valley Christian School Gymnasium by CTA
Architects Engineers - 200 East Carlton:
Zaremba: Okay. That solves that. Okay. We are ready to open Public Hearing Item
11, CUP 05-021, request for a Conditional Use Permit for an addition of a gymnasium
and commons area to existing junior-senior high school for Cole Valley Christian School