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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005 04-12 Pre Meridian Citv Pre-Council Meetina ADril12.2005 The Meridian City Council meeting was called to order at 6:15 P.M. on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 by Mayor Tammy de Weerd. Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, Keith Bird, Shaun Wardle and Charlie Rountree. Members Absent: Christine Donnell Staff Present: Bill Nary, John Overton, Anna Canning, Steve Siddoway, Tara Green. Item 1. Roll-call Attendance: Roll call. ----2L- Shaun Wardle ~Christine Donnell ----2L-Charlie Rountree ~Keith Bird ~ Mayor Tammy de Weerd Item 2. Adoption of the Agenda: Bird: Mr. President, I move we adopt the agenda as published. Rountree: Second. Wardle: It's been moved and seconded to adopt the agenda. All in favor. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. Item 3. Development Monitoring Report by Steve Siddoway (Annual Growth Report - COMPASS): Siddoway: All right, thank you Mr. President, members of the Council, Mayor De Weerd. This monitoring report is a report that is prepared by COMPASS and all of you should have received in your boxes earlier a report - the Development Monitoring Report. If any of you don't have a copy of that and want one, I would be happy to get you one, but it's my understanding that copies were made and distributed to each of you, so what I have today is a Power Point presentation that was prepared by Nicole Prehodo over at COMPASS. I did see it at one of the ARTAC meetings that I attended, thought that it included quite a bit of information that would be of interest to you as City Council members as a status report for the development activity in the city. So, with no further ado, I will go right into it. Now this report is for both Ada and Canyon County, so I won't spend a lot of time on the Canyon County stuff, but it is still kind of interesting for comparison sake. This chart here is single family permits and we have it by both Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting April 12,2005 Page 2 of 10 city limits and area of impact. This one here is by city limits, so this is single family only. You can see the number of units in there. The highest is Nampa's at just over a 1,000. Melba had zero single-family residential permits last year. The City of Caldwell was at 600. When you look at areas of impact, again Nampa up at about 1,100, Caldwell about 550. Now as we go to Ada County, you can see the Meridian number there, 2,243 within the city limits and you can see Boise is only at 564, Eagle 479, Garden City 38, Kuna 227, Star 143. The numbers are astronomical compared to everyone else around us. The closest to us, believe it or not is unincorporated Ada County with 1,173. Now just as an aside I did a little bit of analysis as to where those unincorporated Ada County building permits are going and the majority of them are in the southwest Boise area within their area of impact. As I switch here from city numbers to area of impact numbers, you can see the county drops to 264 and Boise jumps to 1,400. Meridian is still up to over 2,200. All but about 260 of those units in the county are in Boise's area of impact, mainly in the southwest Boise area. Still you can see 1,000 units above Boise's area of impact. The other interesting thing is that if you compare Meridian's units between city limits at 2243 and area of impact at 2262 you can really see we are holding the line very well in the City of Meridian area of impact, not allowing development outside of the city limits. We have also done an analysis - (Inaudible discussion-------------). Siddoway: What would you like me to say? We are holding the ground at having the development go in an orderly fashion within city limits. We are not allowing much at all in our area of impact - that's not in our city limits, not being annexed into the city. They have also done some analysis that larger areas, which they call demographic areas, you will see Nampa's there at 1190 at the largest in Canyon County. Then they have done some for demographic areas in Ada County, they break down into several smaller areas for Boise. These are the number of units: 3422 and then look at this number 2,188 and that's Meridian. Bird: Mr. President. Wardle: Mr. Bird. Bird: Steve, like on downtown Boise it showed a minus 17, but it still has got 189 value. Is that minus sign supposed to be in there? Siddoway: I am trying to remember now. Bird: I can understand losing 17 because- Siddoway: But, why would it still be a positive --? Bird: Why would it still be a positive value, unless it is just pure land? Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting April 12,2005 Page30f10 Siddoway: Unless it's just the increase in assessed values may have done that also. I don't know the right answer to that, but I can find out if you'd like. Bird: No, that's fine. Siddoway: Yeah, I don't know why there would be a positive value with a negative number of units. That doesn't make sense to me. Wardle: Steve, just a quick question. Are we going to see a metric here in the next couple of slides where the value of the home is divided by the square footage or is that something that COMPASS does? Siddoway: That is not in here. There are values, but not values per square foot. Wardle: Is that- Siddoway: It's probably easy to do. I just have to divide one by the other and I could get some of those numbers for you if you'd like. Let me make myself a note. Any other questions on this slide? Moving from single family now to multi family, now there are definitions and so we know that we are talking about a multi family, it's on the left there, it includes duplexes, townhouses, condominiums and apartments. So that we are not just talking about apartments here, we are talking about attached single-family homes and other sorts of multi family types. You will see there that we have got the highest number at 323 units, Boise was at 235, Star had 2, Eagle had none. When you look at the value again, 27 million and the square feet across the board, it's the highest. Now if we look at Nampa on the next slide, Nampa actually has a higher number of units at 402, but the total value is less, so Meridian's was 27 million at 300 units, Nampa's is 20 million with 400 units. Several jurisdictions in Canyon County actually adding no such multi family units at all. They also track mobile homes separately, not very many high numbers there. Meridian did have one new mobile home last year. Nampa is the high of 29. Now if we go with total residential units this combines single family, multi family, mobile homes and the whole lot and then we have a new column over in the right, percentage of the total. You can see that all residential units combined, Meridian had almost 2,600 units, which by itself was 47 percent of the total in the county. So, almost half of all residential units were built in Meridian last year. Bird: The county stated that they are five percent. Siddoway: The county is at five percent. This is by area of impact, now if we were going by city limits, the county would be much higher there. Okay, now we are getting into some of the charts, which are interesting to look at. The purple line is Ada County, the green line is Canyon County and you can see the Ada County numbers - this isn't just - this is all of Ada County including Meridian and including Boise, not just unincorporated Ada County. This total building permit, Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting April 12,2005 Page 4 of 10 total residential building permits in those counties and you can see that Canyon County has been hovering for the last three years around this 3,000 mark and Ada County has been increasing significantly mainly due to Meridian's numbers as you will see in a second. This actually divides Boise and Meridian out individually from one to another. The purple line is Meridian and you can see, as you know, through the nineties all the way up until 2002, we were hovering around this 1,000 building permits per year average. The last couple of years that has really spiked to where we have over 2,500 residential building permits last year alone. Boise on the other hand has been steadily decreasing since 2001. This is the total building permit average for Nampa and Caldwell so a similar graph is what we just saw for Boise and Meridian. You don't see the spike like Meridians had. Nampa has been right around the 1,500 mark for years. I will give you one guess who this line represents? That would be Meridian. So, this is interesting because so far we have been comparing cities in the different counties independently, this actually combines all the cities in the two counties on one graph and shows the residential units back from 1996 up through 2004 and this light blue line here is the one that represents the City of Meridian. Bird: Mr. President. Wardle: Mr. Bird. Bird: Steve, stay on that a minute. That shows that if you look at Boise there how 2001 they peaked out. You know, we didn't pass until 2002 in the deal and Siddoway: Yeah, 2002 was the year that we really started spiking - Bird: We started shooting up and we went by it and you can see what Mr. Nary (inaudible) Council now. Boise, all they have got left is infill and that's what we are going to have you know as our ground runs out. Rountree: They got 9,000 acres south that they haven't figured out how to get into it. Bird: Yeah, but they haven't figured out how to do that. interesting graph and it shows what does happen. That's a really Siddoway: Yeah, it does in Boise's peak that was in 2001 and we were kind of chugging along through the late 90's, early 2000's just kind of mirroring them, but just lower on the chart until just the last couple of years when we took off and they decreased. That is an interesting comparison. Now these charts show the percentage of the total so the share, if you will, the share if you will of the different cities. Again, we are looking at residential here. Now, Meridian is the color that continues to grow unincorporated Ada County has roughly stayed the Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting April 12,2005 Page 5 of 10 same in terms of percentage between 2000 and 2004 is the percentage of the total. Boise as you can see here, 2001 was when they peaked out and they have been decreasing overall so as a share of the total, you can see how Meridian relates in relation to unincorporated Ada County, Star, Kuna, Garden City, Eagle and Boise. These are Canyon County's numbers; there is not much difference in the percentage there. The colors are a little bit difficult to differentiate on the screen, but there is a breaking point right about in here between unincorporated Canyon County, Wilder and Parma and Notus don't even show up and then the maroon color is Nampa. Okay, now we shift the presentation from residential to non-residential. This includes commercial, it includes industrial, it includes public quasi-public, such as schools and churches and they track new permits separately from just a change of use or addition and you will see all of those here. Okay, now looking at commercial activity, you can see that the City of Meridian issued 67 permits, Boise issued 93. The value of Boise's was slightly higher, but look at the square footage. Meridian actually added more non- residential square feet than the City of Boise did. Bird: But, if you look at the number of permits and then there is only about 7 million difference in value? And we have got more square footage. That's a good selling point for Meridian, Idaho because you divide that it's a lot cheaper to build in Meridian than it is in Boise. Siddoway: Similar numbers for Canyon County - you can see there the total value of commercial permits was at 15 million, again that's compared to Meridian's 64 million, so quite a bit of commercial activity. Bird: That shows just Caldwell. Siddoway: Caldwell at 19 million, 30 permits. Yeah, so Caldwell actually had more commercial value added last year than the City of Nampa. They were the highest in Canyon County. Wardle: Steve? Siddoway: Yes. Wardle: In that commercial number is quasi-? Siddoway: Yes, that includes all of those things. Commercial, industrial, public, quasi-public - Wardle: Does that include Public Works projects along with --? Siddoway: It's buildings. So, it includes schools and churches. Wardle: Sewer plants? Things like that? Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting April 12,2005 Page60f10 Bird: No, we don't permit those. Siddoway: If it required a building permit, it would be counted. If it didn't, it wouldn't be counted. Wardle: Thank you. Siddoway: Okay, for additions or changes in use, this would be an existing buildings either converting to a new use or doing an add-on to an existing building, Meridian had 35 commercial additions for a total of about $9 million. De Weerd: Those are more TI? Siddoway: Yes. Yeah, the Tl's would fall in this category. Okay, you can see the numbers there for Canyon County. So the non-residential permit totals, this is the total square footage. We, the City of Meridian had 1.3 million square feet compared to just over a million for the City of Boise. Eagle had 245,000; Kuna was the low at 55,000 and the share of the total - this percentage looks quite similar to the residential numbers that you just saw - about 45 percent of the total commercial activity in the county occurred in Meridian. Again, you can see the numbers there for Canyon County, the lion share of those being in Nampa. Now this doesn't make a lot of sense to me, we just saw a number for Caldwell that was a lot higher than that, so I am scratching my hair a little bit. Wardle: I would maybe ask COMPASS about the two numbers and the difference between Caldwell and Nampa in the commercial and non-residential scenario. (Inaudible discussion -------) Siddoway: Yeah, it may have been that the prior one is based on area of impact. Let's see - yeah, it is unclear to me because this shows 30 permits in Caldwell at about $20 million and then when they do the totals it doesn't add up. There is a question there. This is a map of Ada County if we were able to zoom in, which we can't on the slide show, but each of the red dots that you see represents one building permit and this is the City of Meridian right here and you can see all of the activity in north Meridian and south Meridian. You see almost none in the outlying county areas. This is where I was saying the concentration of Ada County permits has gone in southwest Boise area, but in general you see very few red dots if you will out in unincorporated county, which if you keep that picture in your mind of how they are clustered on this map within areas of impact, compare that to Canyon County, which has the measles. There is building permits being issued just pretty much uniformly everywhere in the county. This is a little difficult to see so I won't spend too much time on it, but this is preliminary plat activity and the red outlines represent areas that have been preliminary Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting April 12,2005 Page 7 of 10 platted and there are graphs that go with this so I am going to move forward. You can see that Meridian platted - this is preliminary plats, now we are going to get to final plats in just a minute, but we did preliminary plats on over 3,000 acres of land for a total of 8,500 almost 8,600 lots - commercial lots, over 7,000 and 71 lots. Boise, 1,500 acres compared to the 3,000 acres, so roughly double the number of acres in a preliminary plat phase. Bird: Look at their lot sizes. They aren't doing the R-8's and the stuff like we are. Siddoway: Yeah, they are getting the more transit-supported densities. Wardle: Steve, what - I have got March 2005 here. Where is that from? The cutoff is March 2005, where is the beginning point? Siddoway: Good question, I believe it's January 1, 2004, but I will verify that as well. I don't remember for sure if they stated - they continuously update the preliminary plat file coverage, so this would be the latest preliminary plat and what this may be instead of the January 1, 2004 this may be the total number of available acres and lots that have been preliminary platted, but not yet final platted. I will verify that, whether there is a beginning date or whether it is just total. (Inaudible discussion -------) Siddoway: Okay, Canyon County - I don't think I am going to spend much time there. We have their preliminary plat data as well. Now we get to final recorded plats and there is a chart with this that will just knock your socks off. Boise, 873 lots final platted last year. This is January 1 - December 2004. The City of Meridian, 3,500; just look at all the other numbers; they are low to mid hundreds. Garden City at 48. Look at this chart that represents it graphically. This red line is the number of lots that were final platted and this is Boise's up here, so there is their number of final platted lots. This is Meridian's. The second highest one of course is unincorporated Ada County. Again you look at this comparison like Mr. Bird was just saying - this is number of lots and this is acres and you can see we are getting some density here - compare that to unincorporated Ada County, where their acres is larger than their number of lots, so it shows an efficient use of land in the City of Meridian. Bird: We go from 49 percent in lots down to 34 percent in acres. Siddoway: So, here are the lots for Canyon County. Caldwell and Nampa, close to one another at just over 1,000, but no one close to the 3,000 of Meridian. I will look into the couple of questions that we noted so far, the value per square foot and the numbers for Caldwell if you are interested in that and if there are any other questions that you have, I would be glad to find the answers for those too, but I just thought the Council would like to see how the City of Meridian Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting April 12,2005 Page 8 of 10 compares to regionally in the development activity. questions. With that I will stand for any Wardle: Council? Bird: Mr. President. Wardle: Mr. Bird. Bird: I don't have any questions, I just think this chart shows that the efficiency that our city runs under from the Mayor down. It's very efficient. When were leading all the categories and we still are the best run city, I think, from the Mayor down and everybody should pat themselves on the back because you guys do a wonderful job. Canning: Mr. President if I might. I wanted to put a plug in for Public Works and planning staff because I am sure that we are not 30 to 40 percent of the total planners in the county, so - Bird: Well, we have got people that work. We don't have people that sit around; we still have the rural agricultural work ethics in the little town of Meridian. Siddoway: One other point - I don't know Brad if you have more information on this or not, but even though our numbers are astronomically higher in terms of the number of plats that we are putting through to the county engineer, they actually track on their website the number of problems that a plat has by jurisdiction and the processing time and Meridian consistently has the fastest processing times with the fewest number of problems through their process, so in spite of the high volumes they are still turning out quality work. Bird: Thanks, Steve. We appreciate the report. Wardle: Thank you, Steve and again some of those metrics that I have asked for along with the turnaround times from the county are things that can become economic development tools, utilizing the research that is all public record and those companies that are looking to locate in the Valley can have that readily available. So, I appreciate it. Council, Mayor that brings us to the end of our agenda unless there are any other questions. No, then I would - De Weerd: Mr. President. Wardle: Madame Mayor. De Weerd: Just so it would save us time on the end of our other agenda, just wanted to invite you all to the State of the City in Kuna. I won't be able to be there, so it would be nice if someone from Meridian could go. Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting April 12,2005 Page90f10 Bird: When is it? De Weerd: April 22nd. Bird: When is that? De Weerd: That's a Friday and I will be on that ESGR (inaudible) thing. Bird: I think I have a doctor appointment, but if I don't Tammy I will go. Where would I get tickets at? De Weerd: I can have Peggy call. Bird: Yeah, have Peggy call unless, can you go Shaun? Wardle: I didn't bring my schedule with me, so - Bird: If Shaun can go because I think I have got a doctor appointment, but - I have my CAT Scan the 22nd or something- De Weerd: (Inaudible ---_oj we'll check. Rountree: Mr. President I have a comment as well and you may not have heard, but you might get an invite Thursday afternoon at 4:45 the Governor is going to be signing the GARVEE Bond into legislation to the Meridian Interchange. How he is going to do that, I have no idea, he has been advised that he is going to upset a lot of folks, but - he starts tomorrow in north Idaho on US 95 in two locations and goes to eastern Idaho Thursday morning and ends up in Treasure Valley Thursday afternoon, so keep that on your radar screen. De Weerd: (Inaudible ------------) Bird: Maybe the Idaho State Police can have three of their cars again out there. Rountree: Yeah, that was the last word I got as I left the office tonight. It may change, but that's (inaudible-------------). Bird: Thursday at 4:45, huh? Well, I think we ought to have him to it down at Ten Mile in the pasture out there where the off ramp is going to be. De Weerd: Mr. President. Wardle: I also would like to ask that you put the Mayor's prayer breakfast on your agendas for May 4th. I am sure a time the president will really appreciate - Commuter Ride is the Ada County Highway District is doing their May in Motion. Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting Aprii 12,2005 Page100f10 I didn't know if Council would like our city to explore participating in this in anyway. If you would like us to look into it, certainly we can do that and finally the Senior Citizen Center is having their ribbon cutting or ground breaking for their community block grant improvements on Friday at 11 :00 A.M. We would love to have you all there. Bird: And if you are over 62, you can stay and eat. De Weerd: Even if you aren't, you can. You just have to pay more. Wardle: Thank you, Madame Mayor, the one comment that I will make about the May in Motion is that I would like to explore the opportunity for the City to participate as an organization and I believe that it would be nice to get some regional action in the arena of that effort and have seen a lot of success and awareness in other areas to the east. With that, if there isn't anything else, I would entertain a motion to adjourn. Rountree: So moved. Bird: Second. Wardle: It's been moved and seconded to adjourn. All in favor? ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:50 P.M. (TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) APPROVED: TA~D ATTESTED: WILLIAM G. BERG,