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Item 16:
Public Hearing: AZ 05-011 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 6.26
acres from RUT to R-8 zone for Lyndhurst Grove Subdivision by
Highland Development, LLC - 2820 West Pine Avenue:
Item 17:
Public Hearing: PP 05-013 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 3.6
building lots and 5 common lots on 6.26 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for
Lyndhurst Grove Subdivision by Highland Development, LLC - 2820
West Pine Avenue:
Item 18:
Public Hearing: CUP 05-015 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a
Planned Development for single-family detached residential units and
single-family attached residential units in a proposed R-8 zone for
Lyndhurst Grove Subdivision by Highland Development, LLC - 2820
West Pine Avenue:
Zaremba: Ladies and gentlemen, we will reconvene and let the record show that all the
Commissioners that were present before are again present and I will open the public
hearings for AZ 05-011, request for annexation and zoning of 6.26 acres from RUT to
R-8 zone for Lyndhurst Grove Subdivision. Also Public Hearing PP 05-013, request for
preliminary plat approval of 36 building lots and five common lots on 6.26 acres in a
proposed R-8 zone for Lyndhurst Grove Subdivision. And also CUP 05-015 -- excuse
me -- request for a Conditional Use Permit for a planned development for single family
detached residential units and single family attached residential units in a proposed R-8
zone for Lyndhurst Grove Subdivision by Highland Development, LLC, 2820 West Pine
Avenue and we will begin with the staff report.
Hood: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission. The project that you just
described is located on the north side of Pine Avenue, approximately 825 feet to the
east of Ten Mile Road. There is an existing home and some outbuildings on the site.
The applicant is proposing to relocate the existing home onto Lot 14, Block 2, in the
same general location on the southeast side of the property. They will be removing all
other structures. To the north of the subject site, the Eight Mile Lateral -- I'll try to -- it
kind of courses in this general direction. Directly to the north on the other side is Haven
Cove Subdivision. They are zoned R-4, single family homes. To the south are some
single-family homes on the large parcels here. Some of them now vacant zoned RUT in
the county. To the east is Kelsey Park Subdivision, also zoned R-4. It's this little
triangular subdivision. And to the west is the recently approved Somersby Subdivision
and that's zoned R-15. Somersby took up -- went all the way to the intersection. This
portion is zoned R-15. Right on the corner is zoned L-O. I just want to point out to the
southwest of that you can see here the preliminary plat lines are in -- the construction
lines aren't there, but they have constructed some of the existing attached units in The
Courtyards at Ten Mile. I bring that up just because we did have a letter that we
received in our office this afternoon from the developer of that and I will touch on that in
just a couple more minutes, but I wanted to kind of orient you with that development. It
takes up this intersection here. So, 12 of the proposed 36 lots are proposed to contain
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single family detached homes -- or, I'm sorry, attached dwellings, town homes, with zero
lots, and the remaining 24 are detached lots. The gross density of the proposed R-8
development is 5.75 dwelling units per acre. Staff believes that this is a very good
transition between the more traditional single family and the multi-family development to
the west. Again, that's Somersby. The applicant is proposing to extend a stub street
from Somersby Subdivision into the site that will eventually come down and connect
with Pine Avenue. The proposed amenities don't snow up any better on this landscape
plan, but they do include some playground equipment and a picnic area, including
tables and a barbecue on Lot 21, Block 2. In addition, there are over six percent of the
site being set aside for open space. Here are some simple versions of the detached
homes and -- sorry they didn't come through very well, but that's attached units, so
there will be two dwelling units on either side of the common -- the outline would be
there. Quickly just a couple of issues or points of clarification. There is a stub street in -
- Clara Street is the name of the street in Haven Cove. We are stubbed basically at the
top of bank of Eight Mile. Staff did not believe that it's warranted for that to be extended
and another bridge across the Eight Mile. There is a crossing right here, with the
extension into Somersby and here you get the same connectivity, it just seemed to be a
little redundant to have that extended there. There will be a pedestrian crossing from
that. They do have a common lot here, a micro path running and tying up, plus the
existing foot bridge across that would tie into the sidewalks on Clara Street. Just to
point out to the applicant and the Commission that I have requested a revised
landscape plan. There were several changes in the staff report and this is one where
we would like to see those changes made and resubmitted to the city ten days before
the next Public Hearing, so I did just want to reiterate that. I tried to bold it in the staff
report as well. And now to the real issues with this one. Sanitary sewer -- currently
there is not sewer available by gravity means to this property. That's pointed out in the
staff report. The applicant -- there is a dry line sewer in Pine Street. The applicant is
proposing to extend from their east boundary line to the south private lift station at The
Courtyards At Ten Mile. This lift station is private; therefore, the subject applicant will
need to work with the city and the developer of The Courtyards on upgrading that lift
station. And the other thing we brought up in the letter from the developer of The
Courtyards was the existing traffic in the area. They were required to construct turn
lanes at the intersection of Ten Mile and Pine. They mentioned something about a
latecomers fee or being reimbursed for a proportionate share of their -- the cost to install
those and that was a condition of The Courtyards project, but he throw that out there in
the letter. I'll let you review that. You did get copies of that letter, is that -- okay. With
that, just to kind of follow up with that one, Somersby mostly amended their
development agreement and they are only allowed to construct eight detached units
and nine multi-family -- or nine attached multi-family units until the Ten Mile/Pine
intersection is improved with a signal. So, those have been restricted to what they can
do prior to the intersection improvements being constructed. Staff has not made that a
condition of this subject application, they are more -- or approximately 1,000 feet away
from that intersection and didn't see that the implications of 36 additional homes --
although they will have an impact on that intersection, would be prudent to restrict this
that way. So, I will -- will recommend approval of this subject application with the
conditions in the staff report. I did just want to point out that I talked to the applicant at
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the break. One point of clarification I'll let him kind of give his proposal first, but site
specific condition on number -- site specific condition number three on page 19 does
talk about the amenities. I believe the applicant is going to propose to actually pave up
to that footbridge and do some reconstruction of the footbridge to make it usable. It's a
little dilapidated, I guess, and they are going to improve it. The city will offer to enter
into a maintenance agreement with Nampa-Meridian to make sure that that footbridge is
maintained that the applicant constructs. So, I just want to go on record that if he, in
fact, does propose that, then, we would be amenable to the maintenance of that. So, I
thought it fit pretty well and we would add a second sentence on that site specific
condition number three on page 19. With that, I will stand for any questions.
Zaremba: Commissioners? I have a compelling need to ask an off-the-wall question.
Hood: Okay.
Zaremba: On page 13, paragraph five, starts out the applicant has not indicated who
will own and operate the pressurized irrigation system. We see that on probably 90
percent of reports and I guess my question is does that question appear on the
application? So, we do ask, it's just 90 percent of the people don't answer it?
Hood: We do ask and I think Shawn Nickel, about a hundred percent of the time, says -
- does not commit to who is going to own and operate that.
Zaremba: So, we are at least asking. That was what I wanted to know. Okay. All right.
If there are no other questions from the Commissioners, would the applicant care to
come forward.
Amar: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For the record, my name is Kevin Amar, address 36
East Pine here in Meridian. I am here representing Lyndhurst Grove Subdivision. Staff
did an excellent job of describing to you what the subdivision is, so I probably won't go
over that again. Excuse me. We did have a neighborhood meeting on site, spoke with
some of the neighbors, and Mr. Bergante, who -- I think that's how you say his name.
He's not here this evening. But he lives in this house right here. Excuse me. He was
really the only one with a question and that was what was the minimum home size. We
are at 1,301 square feet and all of them and I told him because his subdivision, Kelsey
Subdivision, has a minimum home size of 1,400 square feet on those lots that border
Kelsey, we will also put those at 1,400 square feet. Excuse me. And he seemed
satisfied with that. We did have some other neighbors -- as a matter of fact, we had a
couple that requested, actually, to come and speak in favor of the subdivision, which I
haven't ever had that before. I hope we make it through this. We do 36 lots. We have
tried to make a 467 feet transition from an R-15 zoning down to an R-4 zoning. Thanks,
Shawn. And we are, actually, relocating the existing house on site, so there will be
additional -- 35 lots. With respect to the footbridge, that is an off-site improvement that
we are requesting to do. It does make sense, I think, to have the connection between
two subdivisions, at least a pedestrian. The bridge actually already exists. It was
previously a bridge for the house on the north side - the old home on the north side of
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-- I forget the name of the lateral. So, it's a well constructed bridge, it just hasn't been
used in a few years, so it needs cleaned up a little bit and that's something we will do.
We just need to enter into a license agreement with Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District
with respect to the pressurized irrigation system --
Zaremba: Is there an unused glass of water along here somewhere?
Amar: With respect to the pressurized irrigation system, I believe that system ultimately
is going to be owned by Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District. In talking to them that's
what they had indicated. We will work with the developer next door and, ultimately, it
will be a Nampa-Meridian irrigation system. We have contacted Mr. Campbell back in --
actually, last year and talked to him about the sewer lift station and we received a letter
from him January 9th stating that we could work with him and hook up to the sewer lift
station. I spoke with his representative, who is Rod Ralphs, today, after he sent the
letter and Mr. Ralphs said that he hadn't realized -- or Doug did not remember even
signing a letter. So, I think it was just a matter of -- it was four months ago when he
signed the letter. I have a copy of the letter and I have provided it to your staff and we
will certainly work with -- with the developer of The Courtyards At Ten Mile for any
sewer connection. I'm going to quit talking here real quick. I guess with that I'm going
to stand for any questions and sit down. I don't know if I'm going to make it much
longer.
Zaremba: Well, by your testimony you clearly understand that the city is not prepared to
provide sewer at this point.
Amar: No, but they are getting closer.
Zaremba: Okay.
Amar: We can talk a little bit about the sewer.
Zaremba: Well, I was just going to say that the connection that you would put in or the
infrastructure that you would put in to reach the current private lift station that you're
talking about, is not a whole lot different than what you will eventually have to put in
anyhow, right? So, this is --
Amar: In order the reach this lift station, an eight or ten-inch trunk line will have to be
ran down Pine Street. So, it's ultimately what the city wants and it will connect to the lift
station, which is at this corner. Ultimately, the sewer will run down Pine. This is
Castlebrook Subdivision, one that I'm involved in, and we are extending the sewer even
closer to Pine Street as we speak and talking with staff about where those stubs should
be. So, I don't know -- I don't think this lift station is going to be on line very long. Bruce
will be able to answer that question better than I will. I just know it's getting real close to
Pine.
Zaremba: Thank you.
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Amar: Thank you.
Zaremba: Barbara Bollis has signed up.
Bollis: Hi. My name is Barbara Bollis and my address is 2783 West Eptide and I am --
Zaremba: There is a pointer on the platform there.
Bollis: Oh. Okay. My house is right here. Right here. Yeah. Right here. Okay. So, I
talked to the owners. I have enjoyed having that view for quite a long time, four years
now, and, you know, watching the birds out there and the snow capped mountains and,
then, those apartments came up, but I could still see up above and then -- but I always
thought that their house would be there, because it was a farm with a little orchard and
everything and that's the only reason I bought my house. But I kept thinking they -- you
know, they would build over there, if anything, so -- but that's their right to do that, that's
their property, and I sure appreciate having them for neighbors, even though they are
leaving. My concern is if you see the development on the pages, there is a lot of lots
there, which tells me there is going to be a lot of construction and though there is a
chain link fence along the canal right here, I have a chain link fence there, I'm just
concerned of all of the dirt -- dust coming up, because the wind's always blowing that
way and I was just wondering if we could -- if I could ask if maybe along that canal they
could put on one of those solid fences, instead of a chain link fence, and maybe have a
water truck that goes through to keep the dust down. Is that okay to ask?
Zaremba: There, actually, are existing standard ordinances that require dust abatement
during construction. We will ask them what their plan is for fencing that. But they must
protect that waterway as well during construction and those are standard requirements.
Bollis: Yeah.
Zaremba: But we will ask them what they are planning to do for a fence.
Bollis: Okay. And I would like to recommend that, if they could. I have seen a lot of the
new subdivisions, they will put in a fence around the boundaries there, like those new
vinyl ones, upgrade -- anyway. And, then, also the water truck to keep the dirt down.
And other than that, you'll have no complaints from me.
Zaremba: Thank you. Any questions? Thank you. Ben and Norma Jeppeson signed
up together. If you would care to come up one at a time, we'd like to -- okay. Ben and
Norma have -- they are signed up in favor and from the audience they say they are in
favor, but have nothing to add. And -- okay. That's the whole list of everybody that has
signed up. Does anybody else care to testify or add anything? All right. Well, thank
you. Mr. Amar.
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Amar: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. With respect to the lateral and the
fence, during construction we are required to keep a dust abatement and there is a
water truck on site and, in fact, it's getting more stringent, especially with the EPA
coming into town and we now have to prepared a new plan that's called a storm water
pollution prevention plan that details a lot of that information in it, but we are doing the
site construction, which is -- which causes most of the dust and we have a water truck
on site. As far as the fence, we anticipate putting an open style fence in there, similar to
what they have across the canal and continue with that theme, I guess, that's running
along there.
Zaremba: Okay.
Amar: I don't know if there were any other questions, but --
Zaremba: Any questions from the Commissioners? I think that generally along canals
and open spaces like that, it is preferred that it be an open view fence, just so that -- the
police department usually asks for that, so that there is no nefarious activity that can go
on in blind spots. So, I -- it sounds like the offer is to put a fence, but not a vinyl one.
Be open view.
Borup: Does the irrigation district do any burning along there on their weed
maintenance?
Amar: I don't know if they do it. I suspect all irrigation districts do it from time to time. I
know they certainly do cleaning and things of that nature, so --
Zaremba: Okay. Any other questions from the Commissioners?
Rohm: I have none.
Zaremba: Thank you, sir.
Borup: There was some reference to the intersection. I don't know if I really understood
it. Is there going to be any participation there? Is the traffic study showing that most of
the traffic is going to be going to the east anyway?
Amar: Actually, with this development we weren't required to do a traffic study by
ACHD. I'm not sure what the involvement would be. I know ACHD's stand is you do
your own improvements in front of your own development. In fact, I have requested
specifically with ACHD to do latecomers agreements and they have told me we don't do
it, we are not going to do it, so I don't know -- I guess this time I don't have to do the
improvements and -- I don't know.
Zaremba: So, ACHD is not asking you to participate in the intersection that's a
thousand feet away, so --
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Amar: In fact, they did not speak to it at all. They have approved the plan as we have it
and that was not addressed within their comments at all.
Borup: So, the only person that's even brought it up was Mr. Campbell?
Amar: Yes, sir.
Borup: Okay. Thank you.
Amar: Thank you.
Zaremba: Thank you. Any further comments from staff?
Commissioners? Apparently not.
Apparently not.
Borup: Mr. Chairman, I move we close Public Hearing AZ 05-011 and PP 05-013 and
CUP 05-015.
Rohm: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? That
motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. TWO ABSENT.
Borup: So, I guess with all that discussion we really don't have any revisions to the staff
report; is that --
Zaremba: It doesn't sound like it.
Rohm: Were we going to make a reference to the commitment to provide long-term
maintenance once the bridge has been upgraded?
Borup: Yes.
Rohm: That would be item three on page 19.
Borup: I wrote a note on that. Let me see if I can find it. So, I assume the parks
department will maintain --
Hood: That's correct.
Borup: Mr. Chairman, I move we forward to City Council recommending approval of AZ
05-011, a request for annexation and zoning of 6.26 acres from RUT to R-8 for
Lyndhurst Grove Subdivision by Highland Development, recommend approval of that
project, to include all staff comments and conditions of the staff memo dated April 21 st,
received by the clerk April 14th. That concludes the motion,
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Rohm: Second.
Zaremba: Okay. We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed?
Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. TWO ABSENT.
Borup: Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward to City Council recommending approval
of PP 05-013, preliminary plat approval of 36 building lots, five common lots, proposed
R-8 zone for Lyndhurst Grove Subdivision, to include all staff comments, conditions of
the staff memo, again, with a transmittal date of April 13th, received by the city clerk
April 14th, 2005. I think that concludes my motion.
Rohm: Did you want to speak to the site specific or is that --
Borup: That would be in the conditional use.
Rohm: Okay. Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed?
Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. TWO ABSENT.
Borup: Mr. Chairman, I move we forward to City Council recommending approval of
CUP 05-015, request for a Conditional Use Permit for a planned development for single
family detached residential units in a proposed R-8 zone, to include all staff comments
and conditions in the staff memo dated April 13th, received by the clerk April 14th, with
the following change: On page 19, last sentence of item number three, to add that the
applicant will improve and reconstruct an existing foot bridge with the -- after entering
into an agreement with the Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District, after the improvements
are made, the city -- the parks department of the City of Meridian will maintain that
bridge.
Rohm: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Anyopposed? That
motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. TWO ABSENT.
Item 19:
Public Hearing: PP 05-011 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 12
building lots on 4.31 acres in a L-O zone for Julie Subdivision by
Paramount Development, Inc. - northeast corner of North Linder Road
and West Cayuse Drive: