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Meridian Planning & Zoning
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Moe: Second,
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Anyopposed? That
motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward onto City Council recommending
approval of CUP 05-007, to include staff comments for the hearing date on March 17th,
received March 11 th, 2005, with the following changes: On page -- I guess it would be
page one, under the application summary --
Borup: Okay. But that's not part of the -- it wouldn't be normally part of the motion,
because it's not part of the staff's recommendation. I don't know that you necessarily
have to change that.
Rohm: Well, I just think just --
Borup: Okay.
Rohm: -- we will change it and if they don't need it, it's doesn't hurt anything to
reference that. So, on the application summary I'd like to change the third paragraph
down, the proposed tower will be constructed to allow for a co-location of additional
antenna arrays. Period. And on page five, other agency comments and conditions,
number one, change that to read: The city of Meridian must have a first right of refusal
for co-location of communication devices as per MCC 11-22-E.3. End of motion.
Moe: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Anyopposed? That
motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 6:
Public Hearing: CUP 05-009 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a
multi-tenant office building in an I-L zone as required by the conditions of
approval for Lot 5, Block 2, Medimont Subdivision No.1 by Falash &
Ross Construction, Inc. - 150 South Adkins Way:
Zaremba: Next item on the agenda, No.6. I will open the Public Hearing for CUP 05-
009, request for a Conditional Use Permit for a multi-tenant office building in an I-L zone
as required by the conditions of approval for Lot 5, Block 2, Medimont Subdivision No.
1 by Falash & Ross Construction, Inc., 150 South Adkins Way. And we will begin with
the staff report.
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Guenther: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is a -- the second time this request has been
heard, as detailed in the staff report. The Falash and Ross building on Lot 5, Block 2 of
Medimont was before you under CUP 02-016 and it expired in December 5, 2003, for
practically the same building in the same location, with the same conditions. And the
conditions of approval for the Medimont Subdivision are that all uses in this location
receive a Conditional Use Permit. The applicant has submitted this design as well,
which is a multi-tenant building, which would be used for office frontage, warehouse,
kind of storage, industrial uses, for the rear. It is 11,450 square feet and located off of
Adkins Way. And staff is recommending approval of this as conditioned and the only
other thing that I had was that the landscape plan might be amended by SSC for the
location of their dumpster. Other than that, there were no outstanding comments on the
site.
Zaremba: Any questions from the Commissioners?
Newton-Huckabay: I have none.
Zaremba: I did notice one. On the view that you have up there, the drawing that you
have up there, in the upper right corner is an area that appears cross-hatched and that
very small type there says sod, motorcycles, bicycle parking, but would we allow
motorcycle parking on sod?
Guenther: I think you may ask the applicant that question.
Zaremba: Okay.
Guenther: I wouldn't park my motorcycle on sod, but --
Zaremba: Well, if it's not a problem, not for me. Okay. No other questions, would the
applicant care to come forward, please.
Falash: Chairman, Commissioners, my name is Michael Falash. My place of business
is 149 South Adkins, which is right across the street from. there. I reviewed all the
conditions of the staff, the sight conditions, and really accept all of them, in agreement
with all of them. The intention of that motorcycle area was to be paved, just have an
area that could park, you know, bikes and motorcycles and so forth, so we just had it
cross-hatched in an effort to not have any cars parked in that area. I have been through
this once and let it lapse and just didn't get around to putting up a building there, so time
went out and so here I am back again coming through. We did change the building
somewhat from what it was the first time we went through, which was a concrete tilt up
building and this time we are coming through with a split face block and being a dual tan
combination of split faced with a more traditional stick frame roof with asphalt shingles.
Beyond that we tried to keep the square footage the same. We wanted to keep coming
through on the same process we had before, trying to maximize the site, too, which is
part of the deal, and beyond that I'm in agreement with all the conditions and kind of
open that up to you guys if you have any questions,
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Zaremba: Okay. Commissioners, any questions?
Moe: No questions.
Falash: Okay. Thank you.
Zaremba: Thank you. We have no one signed up to speak, but, again, if there is
anybody who cares to mention something, we would be glad to have you come forward.
I did forget to say earlier that when you do come forward, please, begin by stating your
name and your address for the record.
Roberson: My name is Ernie Roberson, 105 South Locust Grove Road, Meridian, and
my place is directly behind this. It is east of this proposed multi-tenant office building,
and I just have a couple of questions. I know before we were concerned about the
dumpster back there and I also would like to know about building lights on the back of
the building, if they shine into our property, because, you know, next to us is the small
machinery shop and we were -- at that time complained about the lights, because they
lit up our whole backyard, and so they turned their lights off and we really appreciated
that. I'm also concerned -- I mean I wanted to ask about landscaping. Is there any
landscaping -- I can't tell by this drawing, I'm sorry, but is there any landscaping beyond
the chain link fence that's there? There is a chain link fence. And is there any
landscaping between the chain link fence and the building. Let's see. What else? I
don't understand about the motorcycle parking, because right now there is a couple of
motorcycles that work -- that go to work there at the machine shop and, I'll tell you, they
make a lot of noise when they get ready to go to leave. Sometimes it's 5:00 o'clock and
sometimes it's later, so I'm concerned about -- when it says motorcycles, you know,
plus, is it quite a few of them or what is the idea there? Other than that -- oh, the other
thing was -- he said the last time that they would put slats in the chain link fence that
now exists and I'm wondering if that's still part of his plan. I think that's all the questions
I have.
Zaremba: Thank you. Questions from the Commissioners?
Borup: I was just curious in which property it was on the - was it the second green
one?
Newton-Huckabay: Right there.
Borup: The green one?
Zaremba: We need to have you on the microphone to speak, please.
Rohm: You have got to come up to the microphone and --
Zaremba: Repeat that.
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Rohm: -- repeat that, please?
Zaremba: Thank you.
Roberson: It's where the red light is.
Borup: Okay.
Rohm: That's your parcel right there? Or is it this one?
Roberson: No. No. I -- it's this way. It's this one. But I think it is the side of that green
one. That green one there looks kind of big. Is that -- there, I think that's it, because it
looks like that his building is going to be over just a little bit, not directly behind our
house, but behind our shop and, you know, that area.
Rohm: Okay. Thank you.
Zaremba: Okay. Anybody else care to testify? All right. We will ask the applicant --
oops. I'm sorry. We do. Thank you.
Smith: I'm Jeri Smith and I live at 335 South Locust Grove Road and we border the
back of the -- all that industrial -- that light industrial area back there and we have had
problems with terribly noisy garbage disposal, like early in the morning and this starts
sometimes in the summertime it may start at between 5:00 and 6:00 o'clock in the
morning. We have had problems with the weeds like four or five feet high in that area --
not in the area, but just behind the Intermountain Wood Products. We have problems
quite considerably with the -- I think he built the Falash building on the end, that--
Borup: You need to address the Commissioners.
Zaremba: You need to address the Commission.
Smith: Okay. The--
Zaremba: If you have a question we will pass that on.
Smith: Okay. The fab building, we had -- and we live right behind that and we have
problems with that as far as they have stacked old car parts and pieces and different
things clear up within probably about two feet of that building and we understood that all
that was to be enclosed and I'd like you to address these to see maybe if this is going to
happen as far as -- because this was supposed to have been specially treated because
it was next toa residential in the finding of facts and the CUP. I'd like you to address
those, please. Thank you.
Zaremba: Thank you.
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Borup: Question. Ma'am? Mrs. Smith. You live south of Robersons?
Smith: Yes.
Borup: So, this is your property right here?
Smith: Ours would be next to the attorney's office.
Borup: You're down here, then?
Smith: Yes.
Borup: Okay.
Smith: Ours would probably be the wider one. What's the blue? Is that the last one in
that -- that's the last one. Is that water tower that runs through there in the red?
Borup: It's the water tower.
Smith: Okay. So, ours would be the wider one right up next to the blue one.
Borup: Right here?
Smith: Right.
Borup: Okay. Thank you.
Smith: You're welcome.
Zaremba: Okay. Let's see. Mr. Falash, you have the opportunity to respond, please.
Falash: I did take a few notes, so, hopefully, I can pick up on all these things up there.
As far as the landscaping issue goes, based on the ordinance we are allowed to build
up to the property line. On the east property line we have a-- there is a 20 foot
landscaped area -- I think it's 20 or 25 foot that was developed by the developer down to
that strip that's on the other side of the fence, but that was the intention of that
landscape buffer there, it would be some buffer between the residential area and the
industrial zone, so that's what the intention was and it's all developed along that that
access point. I didn't really probably call it out, but our intention is to slat the chain link
fence in the back, so it screens off what's happening on the site. Our intention -- we will
occupy the backspace and we are fencing in that backyard. Our intention is just to have
trailers that we have from job sites. We are not a company, we don't store material, we
don't have hysters and stuff, we have -- just basically have, you know, our flatbed
trailers and dump trailers and we just need to have them back in a secured area and our
intention would be to slat that off, so they are screened from the residential side, as well
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as from the Adkins side of the -- the issue with the dumpster location, as far as your
property goes, there is pretty much -- it's on the other side of the property. If we put it
on the -- say the south side of our building, it would be closer to your property. We have
got it intentionally on the other side, because it is more -- I think those folks -- I know
what the commercial or what it's going to be or -- as part of the improvements on
Franklin Road, I think that next property is all commercial property, if I'm not mistaken,
but we intend to put dumpster on the far side of it. As you know, working the Sanitary
Service, you have got to pretty much pull in straight and grab it, and pull back out, so it
almost puts you where you're -- in these properties where your dumpster's, really, in the
back of the property. It's better to have that out of sight from the main road anyway, but
you got to kind of pull that in and they want to grab it and kind of come back out of it, so
that location could go, as far as I'm concerned, on either side of the property, but on that
side of the property it's located furthest away from your property there. The motorcycles
-- I just have a couple of employees who drive motorcycles and the intention wasn't to
have a bunch of motorcycles parked out there, but just an area that, you know, a few of
my people once in awhile they pull up and no place to park with that many cars parked
in there and it's kind of back in our area, so if they leave them there, at least they are in
kind of a secured area and that was the intention of it. I think I have addressed --
Moe: The back lighting.
Falash: Oh, the lighting. Yeah. Typically, we have soffett lighting that runs around the
perimeter. Most of the lighting is in the -- but my intention was to have a couple of
canned down lights that were back in the soffett, which would be directed down on the
face of the building, that won't be -- there won't be any wall packs back there that face
out to the east side, they will be down lights that will come down out of the soffett and
sort of wash the wall and a little bit on the street side and, again, that buffer, you know,
we are -- from our building we are probably 50 feet, 60 feet from the property line and,
then, there is another 20 foot landscape buffer there, so you're -- and if you slat the
fence there, there is going to be quite a distance there between where their property
starts and where our building occurs.
Moe: So, no flood lights, nothing like that, it's just down lights only?
Falash: No. Just typical -- what you got here. Just kind of lights in the back, so you
have lights coming out -- I think we have a man door back there and one overhead door
coming into it, just to get some light back in that area.
Moe: Okay.
Falash: Any other questions?
Zaremba: I did have one just occur to me. I see -- you have mentioned the back area
being fenced in and I sort of missed that in the things that I was reading. I see where
this Would be a gate.
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Falash: That's a gate. And, then, we have one -- that's another side.
Zaremba: This is a gate here?
Falash: Correct.
Zaremba: And my question would be whether the fire department would care to have
that be knock boxes or something like that.
Guenther: That is a condition of approval.
Falash: Yeah.
Zaremba: It is in there?
Falash: Yeah. It's underneath the roof and you got the radiuses for the turning. We
are going to be a fully sprinklered building, so it helps us out on whatever the fire
department goes.
Zaremba: They would be able to get through there?
Falash: Yeah. We can have a lock box with a knock box on it and a key to get through
the gate area, so it's -- it's the same thing you put on your building to give them access
to that.
Zaremba: Great. Thank you
Falash: Okay. Thank you.
Zaremba: Any further questions or comments from staff?
Guenther: No.
Zaremba: No? Commissioners?
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Zaremba: Commissioner Rohm.
Rohm: I move that we close the Public Hearing on CUP 05-009.
Moe: I'll second that.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor, please, say aye. Any
opposed? That motion carries.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman. I move that we forward on to City Council recommending
approval of CUP 05-009, including all staff comments for the hearing date March 17th
and received on March 11th, including all staff comments.
Moe: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Anyopposed? That
motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Newton-Huckabay: I just have one comment. We might suggest to Mrs. Smith who to
contact in the enforcement agency if they are not taking care of their landscaping as
they are supposed to.
Zaremba: That is a good point. I believe she was talking about an existing property,
but--
Newton-Huckabay: Yeah. Well, we can't enforce that, but we can steer her in the
proper direction, so that -- the enforcement body for the property that are existing.
Item 7:
Item 8:
Item 9:
Public Hearing: AZ 05-007 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 43.18
acres from RUT to R-8 zone for Bellingham Park Subdivision by
Gemstar Development, LLC - north of Amity Road and east of South
Locust Grove Road:
Public Hearing: PP 05-009 Request for Preliminary Plat approval
of 166 building lots and 37 common lots on 43.18 acres in a
proposed R-8 zone for Bellingham Park Subdivision by Gemstar
Development, LLC - north of Amity Road and east of South Locust
Grove Road:
Public Hearing: CUP 05-008 Request for a Planned Development
consisting of 166 residential units with reductions to the minimum
requirements for lot size, street frontage and yard setbacks for
Bellingham Park Subdivision by Gemstar Development, LLC - north of
Amity Road and east of South Locust Grove Road:
Zaremba: I believe that's a called to the police department where the enforcement
officer is. Okay. Thank you. I will now open the Public Hearing for Items 7, 8 and 9.
That's AZ 05-007, PP05-009, CUP 05-008. All three relating the Bellingham Park
Subdivision and as mentioned earlier, we have a request to continue this item --
requested for March 31 st~ but since we don't have it, let's assume the request is for April
7th. My only question would be to staff if they believe they will be prepared by then. Is
that enough time?