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Meridian Planning & Zoning
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Parma, those areas, and it would be a very basic system, it would be a couple trips a
day on the loop. It would basically feed into Caldwell and -- but that's another baby step
in terms of I think really developing a true regional transit system. Monitor system
performance. We want to know that -- you know, we want to make sure that the
changes that we are proposing, you know, the changes that will be in place in terms of
the route restructuring are doing well and we are actually meeting the projections. We
think in Boise, with these changes, we can increase about 12 percent our rider-ship and
we can increase the inter-county service rider-ship about 50 percent and we can double
-- within two or three years we can double the rider-ship within Nampa and Caldwell.
And, of course, marketing existing services. I think we hear still a lot of people are
confused, some people may even -- I still hear the term Boise Urban Stages, which was
the bus, which was the name when the City of Boise owned the bus system. And Valley
Ride, still hear Valley Ride, which is the name of the services now. So, we have got a
lot of work ahead of us. We have got some additional grant dollars to do that, but our
outreach is going to be fairly extensive in the coming months. We think it's a good
overview. I'm open to any questions you may have.
Zaremba: Commissioners, any questions?
Carnopis: I left you some sheets that kind of explain in a little more detail. We also
have -- I didn't talk about all the other -- the research we have done over the years,
which was kind of the necessary evil. But, again, we are pretty excited, the fact that we
are getting to put rubber on the road, for lack of a better term, and we are actually doing
some tangible things and we are excited about the prospects of actually accomplishing
that second goal, which is developing a true regional public transportation system. Our
website is www.valleyride.org and I work two blocks away, if anybody wants to give me
a call and learn more, I would be more than happy to, or anybody in the audience wants
us to speak to your organization, I'd love to. Thank you.
Moe: Thank you very much.
Zaremba: Thank you, Mark. And I would reemphasize for anybody that's interested,
the public transportation, we need our state legislature to enable us to take a vote on
whether we want to pay for it or not. And that's a very important thing for there to be a
next step for Valley Regional Transit, so thank you, Mark, very much.
Item 5:
Recommendation: VAC 05-002 Request for a Vacation of existing
power lines, sewer, irrigation and storm water drainage easements for
Boise Valley Commons by CSHQA - 2400 East Overland Road:
Zaremba: The next item on our agenda, Item 5, is a recommendation on VAC 05-002.
This is a request for a vacation of existing power line, sewer, irrigation, and storm water
drainage easements for Boise Valley Commons for CSHQA at 2400 East Overland
Road. This is not a Public Hearing, but we will have staff comments and discussion
among the Commissioners.
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Hood: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission. While Brad loads up the
map, it helps to see where these easements are at, but I won't -- even if it doesn't
get up in time, I'll just let you know there are four easements that the applicant is
proposing to vacate within the Boise Valley Commons Subdivision. It will be final
platted as Destination Place, is my understanding. That won't come before you. Since
this staff report went to -- went to the clerk,. I have received a letter from Idaho Power,
ACHD and Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District regarding their interest in these
easements. All of them were supportive of the easement vacations, however, they
aren't willing to relinquish their rights to those at this time. During the platting process
those easements will be vacated, so that's how the staff report is -- has been written, is
that prior to signature on the final plat by the city engineer we need those
relinquishments from those applicable agencies. If Bruce wants to -- what I found out
on the city sewer is he believes this line is actually on the east side of the property line
and this 20-foot wide easement is not applicable. There aren't any sewer lines within
that. So, he has to do a little more research, but he thinks the line is actually on the
other side, so we don't think that from the city's perspective we would have any problem
vacating that, so -- I believe the staff report is pretty straight forward, so if you have any
questions I will stand for those.
Zaremba: Does there need to be any kind of a trade? For instance, if the sewer line
does run elsewhere on the property, is there an easement existing over that that -- are
there double easements and we are getting rid of one of them or do you need to trade
easements?
Freckleton: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, the -- at the time the sewer
was extended underneath the interstate, we were negotiating easements and I believe
what happened is we ended up getting easements on both properties. I think that the
sewer actually got built on the property to the east of Boise Valley Commons and that
that easement would be non-applicable at this point. So, I've just got a -- it's on my list
of to do's. I'll get it verified prior to Council.
Zaremba: Okay. Commissioners?
Rohm: I guess we have had a function, then, we could recommend, pending Bruce's
findings, that we could go ahead and vacate, so with that being said -- unless there is
any other comment.
Newton-Huckabay: I have none.
Moe: None.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward onto City Council recommending vacation
of 05-002, including all staff comments.
Newton-Huckabay: Second.
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Zaremba: There is a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? That
motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Zaremba: And I failed to mention earlier, I should note for the record that Commissioner
Borup joined us at the beginning of the Valley Regional Transit presentation, so we are
all present.
Item 6:
Recommendation: VAC 05-003 Request for a Vacation of the golf
course easement located on Lots 44, 45, 46, & 47, Block 1 of Spurwing
Subdivision by Spurwing Limited Partnership - North of Chinden
Boulevard and west of North Linder Road:
Zaremba: Next is another recommendation, VAC 05-003, request for vacation of the
golf course easement located on Lots 44, 45, 46, and 47, Block 1, of Spurwing
Subdivision by Spurwing limited partnership, north of Chinden Boulevard and west of
North Linder Road. And, again, I will ask for staff comments.
Guenther: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Spurwing Subdivision is outside of the Meridian
area of city impact and Spurwing Subdivision is outside of the Meridian city limits. State
code requires the City of Meridian to make comment and authorize Ada County to
vacate these easements if they are within one mile of the city limits. Staff comments
were basically we have no comment or no concern with vacating the golf course
easement and would forward the same onto Ada County to allow them to vacate this
easement.
Rohm: That's pretty simple.
Zaremba: A golf course easement just gives room for the golf course? It doesn't have
any utilities in it or --
Guenther: No utilities. No public services.
Zaremba: Okay. My only comment is, actually, a typo, I believe, on the first page of the
staff report, the first paragraph under application summary, you begin referring to
Spurwing and, then, transfer to talking about Ashford Greens Subdivision, which is a
different -- at least in my copy of it.
Guenther: Yes.
Moe: they're all the same.
Zaremba: So, I would say before City Council, clean up the typo.
Guenther: I got you. That one.