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Chris Johnson
From:TROY AND DEBBIE ALLEN <bryker8290@msn.com>
Sent:Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:13 AM
To:City Clerk
Subject:Re: Timber Creek proposal for Sept. 18 hearing
September 10, 2018
City of Meridian
Dear Meridian City Mayor and Council Members:
At the end of the public hearing regarding the Timber Creek proposed amendment to the development
agreement, I raised my hand and tried to ask a question. I was not recognized despite my attempts to get
your attention. After the meeting was recessed, Mayor Tammy DeWeerd approached me, and I had the
opportunity to state my point and ask my question:
We have just heard testimony after testimony providing the details of how Timber
Creek has, and will (to an even greater degree), detrimentally affect the quality of life of the
neighbors surrounding the Timber Creek operation. We have provided testimony (that really
should go without saying because it is so obvious) that the decades of financial investment of
the surrounding property owners will be devastated by Timber Creek’s operation (NO ONE
WANTS TO BUY PROPERTY/LIVE BY A DUMP). We have provided testimony that Timber
Creek’s function is outside of the boundaries of the “R-4” zone in which it operates. We have
provided testimony that the operation has increased exponentially over the past two years
(we live next to it – we’ve watched it expand) and has gone beyond the boundaries of
agricultural use and the original development agreement at the time of annexation. We
provided testimony that the industrial grinder is NOT an agricultural piece of equipment. We
pointed out that agricultural producers operate equipment on specific pieces of land for a
few days at a time, a few times a year – NOT ALL DAY, SIX DAYS A WEEK on the same piece of
property! Again, this is evidence of an industrial operation. I asked Mayor DeWeerd “Why,
after all that, didn’t the council members vote and deny the proposal?” Her response was
(with a smile and a chuckle) “They didn’t want to.”
Instead, Timber Creek was given a second chance to rewrite the proposal. It was supposed to be done
with the input of the neighbors “in good faith.” Mr. Murgoitio consented to work with the neighbors to
come up with something that would be agreeable. However, the neighbors’ input was ignored, and the
representing attorney was UNIVITED to the rewriting meeting/s.
Mr. Murgoitio said that he would remove the request to take food waste, but it’s still in the proposal. In
fact, “garden waste” has been added. Mr. Murgoitio says that he can’t grind enough material to supply the
compost he needs for his own land on which he is now employing the “no till” method of farming. Yet, the
five parcels of ground that he has harvested along Locust Grove this summer have ALL been tilled (plowed,
disked, planed, worked up, etc.) and not one truck of compost has been put on any of them. His statement
that he uses most of the product on his own property is simply to make you think that his operation fulfills
an agricultural use (frankly, it seems like an insult to your intelligence).
Mr. Murgoitio is trying to mask his very lucrative industrial endeavor. He stands to make hundreds of
thousands of dollars (each year) just ACCEPTING waste, let alone the financial gain of selling the
composted product. Certainly, you must recognize that garbage trucks don’t make deliveries all day,
almost every day, to farms. But they do deliver to dumps – and dumps aren’t located in residential zones .
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What more can we do than plead with you to protect the provisions and purposes of zoning? Your own
staff recommended that this proposal be denied. If this proposal were being submitted by some
entrepreneur, new to the area, I don’t think it would be considered an appropriate location by
anyone. Just because it is being proposed by a member of a family (NOT a land owner, by the way) who
has lived and farmed here, doesn’t make it any less industrial. How can we prompt you to put yourselves
on our patios and realize that anything other than a denial of this proposal, flies in the face of every
purpose you were put on the council to protect?
Respectfully,
Troy and Debbie Allen
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Charlene Way
From:C.Jay Coles
Sent:Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:15 PM
To:Charlene Way
Subject:FW: Pic from testimony
For the timber creek hearing.
From: TROY AND DEBBIE ALLEN [ mailto:bryker8290@msn.com ]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:15 PM
To: C.Jay Coles
Subject: Pic from testimony
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Chris Johnson
From: TROY AND DEBBIE ALLEN <bryker8290@msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 4:00 PM
To: City Clerk
Subject: Timber Creek Recycling provisions
I am writing to you to provide input regarding the provisions recommended by staff and the subsequent
revisions for the development agreement requested by Mike Murgoitio for Timber Creek Recycling.
I am requesting that the council approve the provisions indicated along with the following revisions:
1. Revision to section 1 to provide a 10 year maximum of operation for the recycling facility under the
name Timber Creek Recycling or any other name or subsequent owner.
2. Revision to section 4 to require all processed and unprocessed material be processed and stored
on the 36 acre parcel on the corner of Columbia and Locust Grove as outlined in the 9-18-18 revised
site plan.
3. Revision to section 6 to include a wall at least 15 feet high on top of a berm no less than 15 feet
above the natural grade of the existing property.
4. Revision to section 10 to remove the verbiage "within the City of Meridian" and require recycle
activity to be located at least 300 feet from all abutting residential districts.
Additionally, it is important for the council to be aware that the current "berm" in place is simply rows of
TCR's compost product (see pictures) and these so-called berms, in no way, provide an aesthetic barrier of
anywhere near sufficient height. TCR is located on a slight hill above Columbia road and the compost
berms do nothing to accomplish the intent of the "berm" requirement which is to provide a barrier which
blocks the view of the recycling activity and provides and aesthetic appearance. Please require that TCR
construct berms consisting primarily of compacted dirt, with or without amendment, which will sustain
vegetation, along with landscaping to include sprinkler system, with aesthetically pleasing trees and
bushes.
This is the current compost
berm
As you can see, it does nothing to provide a barrier or any kind of aesthetic presentation.
This is a berm:
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This is what should be required.
Thank you for your attention to this issue.
Debbie Allen
775 E. Columbia Rd., Meridian.
C.Jay Coles
From:Ty Palmer
Sent:Tuesday, November 27, 2018 9:38 AM
To:C.Jay Coles
Subject:Fwd: Timber Creek Berm
In case you don’t end up with a copy of this.
Ty Palmer | City Council, Seat 3
City of Meridian
33 E. Broadway Ave., Meridian, Idaho 83642
Call/Text: 208.954.6432 | Fax: 208.898.5501
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From:
TROY AND DEBBIE ALLEN <bryker8290@msn.com>
Subject: Timber Creek Berm
Date:
November 27, 2018 at 9:31:56 AM MST
To:
"typalmer@meridiancity.org" <typalmer@meridiancity.org>
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Dear Councilman Palmer,
I have attached two photos for your review prior to considering whether or not to accept the
conditions for the Timber Creek Recycling's development agreement. The first picture gives
you a "front yard" perspective from Jim and Angie Cox's home. As you can see from the white
line on the road the photo is not zoomed in to enhance or detract from the berms. The second
photo shows the existing berm that Timber Creek has installed to comply with the "10' above
the center line of the road" requirement - highlighted in pink. The photo also shows the
current (as of 11/27/18) material they are producing, highlighted in yellow. Next to that
material is the grinder that processes the material. I hope that you can see that the pink berm
does not capture the spirit of the law to conceal the industrial operation on the TCR property
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nor does it provide an acceptable barrier for the residents that currently live near the operation
(specifically the five or six homes directly across the street).
The second thing I would like you to notice is the property between the pink berm and the
barbed-wire fence (near the road) is where TCR would like to store their end product before
distribution. This specific area is part of the "300 feet" issue that was discussed at the last
meeting. If TCR is truly intending to work with nearby residents to have minimal impact, the
300 foot buffer must be employed on the borders of Columbia road and Locust Grove road.
I hope that after all the testimony you have heard and the subsequent discussions, you can see
that this industrial operation is placed immediately within a residential area and should be held
to the highest restrictions.
Respectfully,
Troy Allen
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C.Jay Coles
From:Treg Bernt
Sent:Tuesday, November 27, 2018 9:50 AM
To:C.Jay Coles
Subject:Fwd: Re: Timber Creek Berm
Mr. Clerk,
Please add to the public record. Thanks...
My best,
--
Treg A. Bernt | City Councilman, Seat 4
City of Meridian
33 E. Broadway Ave., Meridian, Idaho 83642
Cell: (208) 409-7400 | Fax: (208) 898-5501
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regards to both release and retention, and may be released upon request, unless exempt from disclosure by law.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Treg Bernt <tbernt@meridiancity.org>
Date: Nov 27, 2018 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Timber Creek Berm
To: TROY AND DEBBIE ALLEN <bryker8290@msn.com>
Cc:
Troy & Debbie,
Thank you for your concern. I appreciate you reaching out. As you know, I'm not able to discuss this
application unless it's on the public record. I know that may seem trivial, but its a law that I'm obligated to
follow.
I will forward this to the Clerk so he can add to the public record. If you like, I'm sure we would be open to
listening to more public testimony. I know the public hearing is closed at the moment. However, I would be
open to more public testimony if needed. Remember, I'm just 1 of 6. This is something that we would have to
agree to do as a Council...
My best,
--
Treg A. Bernt | City Councilman, Seat 4
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City of Meridian
33 E. Broadway Ave., Meridian, Idaho 83642
Cell: (208) 409-7400 | Fax: (208) 898-5501
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On Nov 27, 2018 9:31 AM, TROY AND DEBBIE ALLEN <bryker8290@msn.com> wrote:
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Dear Councilman Bernt,
I have attached two photos for your review prior to considering whether or not to accept the conditions for
the Timber Creek Recycling's development agreement. The first picture gives you a "front yard" perspective
from Jim and Angie Cox's home. As you can see from the white line on the road the photo is not zoomed in to
enhance or detract from the berms. The second photo shows the existing berm that Timber Creek has
installed to comply with the "10' above the center line of the road" requirement - highlighted in pink. The
photo also shows the current (as of 11/27/18) material they are producing, highlighted in yellow. Next to that
material is the grinder that processes the material. I hope that you can see that the pink berm does not
capture the spirit of the law to conceal the industrial operation on the TCR property nor does it provide an
acceptable barrier for the residents that currently live near the operation (specifically the five or six homes
directly across the street).
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The second thing I would like you to notice is the property between the pink berm and the barbed-wire fence
(near the road) is where TCR would like to store their end product before distribution. This specific area is
part of the "300 feet" issue that was discussed at the last meeting. If TCR is truly intending to work with
nearby residents to have minimal impact, the 300 foot buffer must be employed on the borders of Columbia
road and Locust Grove road.
I hope that after all the testimony you have heard and the subsequent discussions, you can see that this
industrial operation is placed immediately within a residential area and should be held to the highest
restrictions.
Respectfully,
Troy Allen
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C.Jay Coles
From:Luke Cavener
Sent:Tuesday, November 27, 2018 9:59 AM
To:C.Jay Coles
Subject:Fwd: Timber Creek Berm
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For inclusion in the record.
Sent from my iPhone
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From:
TROY AND DEBBIE ALLEN <bryker8290@msn.com>
Date:
November 27, 2018 at 9:23:57 AM MST
To:
"lcavener@meridiancity.org" <lcavener@meridiancity.org>
Subject:Timber Creek Berm
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Dear Councilman Cavener,
I have attached two photos for your review prior to considering whether or not to accept the
conditions for the Timber Creek Recycling's development agreement. The first picture gives
you a "front yard" perspective from Jim and Angie Cox's home. As you can see from the white
line on the road the photo is not zoomed in to enhance or detract from the berms. The second
photo shows the existing berm that Timber Creek has installed to comply with the "10' above
the center line of the road" requirement - highlighted in pink. The photo also shows the
current (as of 11/27/18) material they are producing, highlighted in yellow. Next to that
material is the grinder that processes the material. I hope that you can see that the pink berm
does not capture the spirit of the law to conceal the industrial operation on the TCR property
nor does it provide an acceptable barrier for the residents that currently live near the operation
(specifically the five or six homes directly across the street).
The second thing I would like you to notice is the property between the pink berm and the
barbed-wire fence (near the road) is where TCR would like to store their end product before
distribution. This specific area is part of the "300 feet" issue that was discussed at the last
meeting. If TCR is truly intending to work with nearby residents to have minimal impact, the
300 foot buffer must be employed on the borders of Columbia road and Locust Grove road.
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I hope that after all the testimony you have heard and the subsequent discussions, you can see
that this industrial operation is placed immediately within a residential area and should be held
to the highest restrictions.
Respectfully,
Troy Allen
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C.Jay Coles
From:Joe Borton
Sent:Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:44 AM
To:C.Jay Coles
Subject:Fwd: Timber Creek Berm
Attachments:image.png; image.png
Joe Borton
City Councilman
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From:
"TROY AND DEBBIE ALLEN" <bryker8290@msn.com>
To:
"Joe Borton" <jborton@meridiancity.org>
Subject:Timber Creek Berm
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Dear Council President Borton,
I have attached two photos for your review prior to considering whether or not to accept the
conditions for the Timber Creek Recycling's development agreement. The first picture gives
you a "front yard" perspective from Jim and Angie Cox's home. As you can see from the white
line on the road the photo is not zoomed in to enhance or detract from the berms. The second
photo shows the existing berm that Timber Creek has installed to comply with the "10' above
the center line of the road" requirement - highlighted in pink. The photo also shows the
current (as of 11/27/18) material they are producing, highlighted in yellow. Next to that
material is the grinder that processes the material. I hope that you can see that the pink berm
does not capture the spirit of the law to conceal the industrial operation on the TCR property
nor does it provide an acceptable barrier for the residents that currently live near the operation
(specifically the five or six homes directly across the street).
The second thing I would like you to notice is the property between the pink berm and the
barbed-wire fence (near the road) is where TCR would like to store their end product before
distribution. This specific area is part of the "300 feet" issue that was discussed at the last
meeting. If TCR is truly intending to work with nearby residents to have minimal impact, the
300 foot buffer must be employed on the borders of Columbia road and Locust Grove road.
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I hope that after all the testimony you have heard and the subsequent discussions, you can see
that this industrial operation is placed immediately within a residential area and should be held
to the highest restrictions.
Respectfully,
Troy Allen
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