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Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting
January 18. 2005
The Meridian City Pre-Council meeting was called to order at 6:30 P.M. on
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 by Mayor Tammy de Weerd.
Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, Keith Bird, Shaun Wardle,
Christine Donnell and Charlie Rountree.
Staff Present: Bill Nary, Brad Watson, Anna Canning, John S., John Overton,
Kenny Bowers, Ted Baird and Will Berg.
Item 1.
Roll-call Attendance:
Rollcall.
X Shaun Wardle X Christine Donnell
X Charlie Rountree X Keith Bird
---2L- Mayor Tammy de Weerd
Item 2.
Adoption of the Agenda:
Bird: Mr. President
Wardle: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we adopt the agenda as published.
Rountree: Second.
Wardle: It's been moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed?
ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED.
Item 3.
Presentation on the Downtown Transportation Plan:
Siddoway: I will lead you off and Mr. President, members of the Council, thank
you very much. Then Tom Hudson and Tim Taylor will take over for the main
part of the presentation. I was before you a month ago, if you will recall, giving
you an interim update on the status of this project and at that time, I handed out
the public comments that we had received to date. You will also recall that we
had at that time, narrowed the choices down to three, but we were wanting to do
quite a bit of in-depth analysis on those three alternatives before making a formal
recommendation on the preferred alternative. Over the past month and one half,
two months the Fehr and Peers and Hudson team have been doing a lot of
analyses and in conjunction with the Steering Committee. The Steering
Committee, which has the memo that you have, the first item that I handed you is
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a letter from that Steering Committee making a formal recommendation to the
City Council and the ACHD Commissioners on the preferred alternative. There
has been a tremendous amount of evaluation and a tremendous amount of
scrutiny placed on these alternatives by this Committee and I am very
comfortable in making this recommendation to you as one that has been done
with a lot of analysis and a lot of objectivity and with that to present the update
and the selection of the preferred alternative to you I will turn the time over to Mr.
Hudson.
Hudson: Mr. President, members of the Council, nice to see you again. We
have a brief agenda that I will move through with your permission. We would like
to outline very briefly the process we have gone through to arrive where we are
today, outline the finalist alternatives, recommend a preferred alternative to you.
We would like your feedback and guidance for moving through the next 24 hours.
As you know, we have got a joint meeting of the Commissioners and Council
tomorrow morning, so we would like your guidance for that and then we also
have a public meeting tomorrow night and any of your recommendations for that
would be most welcome. So, if you are comfortable with that, we are going to get
right to it We began this process really in late August and contemplated how the
community has been challenged by addressing downtown circulation for years,
certainly as long as a decade and the kinds of difficulties that the communities
has faced in identifying the right way to go. All things considered, one of the
biggest challenges I think that we have had is the kind of detail that the process
that we have been engaged in over the last few months has provided us. I think
that is why one of the reasons Mr. Siddoway is as pleased as we are in that we
have been able to get a lot more detail than we really even anticipated last
September. That is in part due to the outstanding support we have had from Ada
County Highway District. A really excellent insights from their staff - they
volunteer to go above and beyond the call of duty and we now have such
information as estimated costs for not just one, but three different alternatives
and a great deal of more information, numbers of structures impacted, properties,
linear feet and so many different kinds of things that help all of us have a great
deal more comfort with the recommendations that we are coming forward with. I
would like to just emphasize one primary point before we go into investigation of
the three alternatives and that is the dramatic personality split that this downtown
area sustains today and is expected to sustain in the future. As you move from
the freeway, which is the redline at the bottom of this aerial image toward
Franklin - in that first area that is shaded in the - what did we call it violet? I am
colored challenged so purple is usually my - this is a very auto-oriented district,
strategically designed for the purpose of addressing auto-oriented commercial
economy and we anticipate as part of your own community strategic plan and
certainly in support of all of the work that we have done over the last two years,
that it will continue to have that kind of orientation; whereas, the dark green
toward the top and right in the downtown is more of a pedestrian oriented city
center. Very different needs in terms of managing transportation. We cannot
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under-emphasize the importance of this particular distinction - that in order for
the lower end of this aerial district. To work well we need to make sure that we
are providing the right kinds of circulation systems for it, but a very different set of
priorities for the northern end. I mean, contemplate the size of your community
today of over 50,000 people moving very rapidly in growth upward and yet you
have a city center that has lacked and is the city center that was about the same
size and the same density as it was in the early 1970's. So, it hasn't caught up
yet Yet, all the opportunities, the demand of the community, the demand of the
region, the economy and certainly social demand for sense of community are
saying to us the opportunity is very substantial for pedestrian oriented urban
center. So, with that as context we would like to take a few minutes to move
through the three alternatives, but before we do that and I am going to turn to
Tim Taylor from Fehr & Peers to share that with you. I would just like to say that
we all know that no matter what alternative might be chosen, there cannot be -
we cannot anticipate a unanimous support and it's one of the difficulties that all
people of good faith regret that in a community this size, we can't serve everyone
as effective as every other individual. But, having said that and having gone
through this kind of challenge for upwards of a decade now, we can come to you
and say that as a team the Steering Committee that you have chosen that has
representation on it for many different perspectives from transportation to historic
preservation, from small business to city staff we have a unanimous
endorsement and recommendation to you for one preferred alternative. I think
that demonstrates the value of the process that we have been through, the value
of the level of detail and the value of having a broad team approach to
investigate our various alternatives. We have all learned from each other, each
individual on the Steering team, each citizen that participated in the public
meetings so far has had a voice. As you know, we collected every written item
from the public and shared it with you as Council, we have given a lot of thought
to what our citizens have to say and with that all of those sorts of insights and
input, we come to you with a unanimous recommendation from the Steering
team. Tim would you like to move to the next slide?
Taylor: Tom had mentioned that we have three alternatives and we do. We
actually have four if you were to consider this one, which we are calling the
baseline condition. Now, that is looking at things in the year 2030 if we were just
to keep the system pretty much the same as it is except for these major
improvements to the overall regional network. So, you would still have Main and
Meridian as it is today, but all of these alternatives assume that there is a Ten
Mile Interchange in place; that there are crossings at Locust Grove and Linder
and we have also included this extension of W. Corporate Drive in this particular
area. So, this is the base condition and everything that we have done with the
other three alternatives also include these same assumptions. Now if we were to
just look at this on it's own, obviously, this is a very inexpensive alternative as it
relates to this particular corridor, certainly these are not necessarily inexpensive
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improvements regionally, but it doesn't serve the demand that we are looking at
needing to serve in the year 2030 or beyond. It doesn't meet the downtown
priorities in goals and objectives and we know that it doesn't do anything to make
improvements to this Central and Waltman intersection that we have.
Hudson: In the public meeting that we had last fall on looking at alternatives, we
asked the citizens in the room and there were well over 120 people is there
anybody here who believes that doing nothing is the right approach, keeping the
current course? There was not one person that raised their hand in support of
that baseline - just to let you know.
Rountree: Tim?
Taylor: Yes.
Rountree: I would suggest in references to the baseline that you not put it in
terms of it's inexpensive. It might be in actual construction dollars, but there
certainly an economic impact on the City of Meridian if we don't do something.
So, there is an expense there.
Taylor. Yeah, it would be a negative expense. Thank you. So, using that
baseline and judging these other three finalist alternatives, which were the one-
way couplet, the widening of Meridian Road to five lanes and then what we can
the split corridor and I will go through that as we go through the next slides. One
of the keys here is that all of these alternatives also address increasing public
transit and alternative modes of transportation. They will look at Broadway and
East Third and Pine and how those relate to circulation in the downtown area as
well as the Central and Waltman intersection and then the key connections at
Fairview and Cherry lane. So, any of these alternatives will also include or
address these important issues as well. So moving on with alternative "A", which
is the one-way couplet and you are familiar with this. The advantages that we
have seen to this particular alternative is that you really don't need a lot of right-
of-way in order to implement this and so because of that, it's fairly easy to phase.
It's striping, re-striping and some signal modifications. With it you would be able
to gain better traffic operations at the Waltman, Central intersection based on the
way it would be reconfigured. It actually assists in complementing the auto-
oriented nature of the area to the south as Tom was mentioning and the
construction costs associated with this are moderate and we will go through
those costs at the end of the presentation. The disadvantages are that it's
inconsistent with the goals and the objectives of downtown and it would also
require significant change in the way people drive in this corridor now because of
the one-way system. Alternative "B" looks at taking Meridian from the Central -
Waltman intersection and widening it to five lanes all the way up to Cherry,
Fairview and leaving Meridian or Main Street as it is today. It would also require
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that the intersection - I have kind of blown this up, but the intersection there at
Central and Waltman would be changed such that Main Street would somehow
have to "r in to Meridian north of this congested interseáion and so it's - I guess
what I am doing now is talking about just one of the main disadvantages is that
this is a very complicated reconfiguration of that intersection and in order to make
this alternative viable it resuRs in also excess right-of-way because now and with
"t-ing" in Main Street, we have this very wide section of Main Street south of
Franklin that you really don't need it to be that wide any more because you are
accommodating the majority of your through traffic, your heaviest traffic volumes
on Meridian instead of on Main Street. That's one of the primary benefits of this
alternative is that the regional traffic going from the freeway all the way north on
Meridian is accommodated in that one single corridor. So, those are some of the
advantages and disadvantages of aRernative "e" - widen Meridian. Now the split
corridor, many people at first blush have said that this appears to be more
complicated than the others and really it isn't. We have prepared some
additional graphics to help you to really understand this particular aRemative.
What we are looking at would be one-way traffic operations from Waltman -
Central up to the Railroad corridor, which is right about in this area. We would be
looking at two-way traffic operations on Meridian and Main Street north of the
railroad tracks. What we would do in order to get it from one-way to two-way is
provide a transition from Main Street to Meridian, north of Franklin and South of
the railroad. So, the key here is that where we are needing to accommodate
these auto oriented businesses and heavier traffic volumes to the south we do
that through a more efficient one-way couplet where we want to focus on a
pedestrian oriented downtown. We are able to do that by shifting a lot of the
traffic or a majority of the through traffic to Meridian, which would be a five lane
facility north of the railroad tracks and then the downtown area of Main Street
we'd be looking at traffic volumes in the 6 to 10,000 range, which is what has
been thought of as a target in order to maintain the vibrant pedestrian friendly
downtown area. Now the advantages - I have gone through a few of the
advantages in terms of it shifting that heavy traffic volume in the area north and
through the downtown to Meridian - the two traffic we still are able to
accommodate on Main Street, it's the through traffic that we would be able to
shift over to Meridian. It addresses both, again the issues in the south in terms of
auto oriented businesses and also the pedestrian focus in the downtown area
and we are able to like the one-way couplet, realize more efficient traffic
operations at the interseáion of Central and Waltman because of the one-way
oparations and really the construction costs were found to be moderate on this
particular alternative. The disadvantages are the right of way acquisition costs
are high. That's also the case with the five-lane scenario and again it would
require some fairly significant changes in driving patterns as to what people are
used to today. I want to focus on two key areas, number one the transition area
which people have had some concern with. This graphic doesn't necessarily do
a good job of portraying that. The second area is the Waltman - Central area
intersection. So, we have prepared a graphic that kind of shows this split corridor
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transition. The redlines that you see represent traffic that would be going in a
northbound direction; the yellow would be traffic going in a southbound direction
and this is on top of an aerial so you kind of begin to gel a feel for properties that
might potentially be impacted; where access might be; how people would make
specific turning movements, but all of this is just illustrative. Once a design team
went in they would figure out exactly what the radius of curves needed to be and
they would look at right of way acquisition more carefully. This was prepared so
that ACHD would be able to prepare cost estimates. But, if we are coming
northbound - this is Franklin - if we are coming northbound, we would have
three lanes just prior to where Main Street exits and one of the options would be
able to provide a straight through movement onto Main Street, but just probably a
single lane based on the traffic volumes that we have looked at and two lanes
would continue off and connect up into this five lane Meridian section. If you are
coming southbound on Main Street south of the railroad tracks, you would have
the opportunity to come down, make a right turn, go north or be able to make a u-
turn and continue south. If you are anywhere north of the railroad tracks you
could also do that or there are many opportunities for you to go from east to west
and access Meridian Road in order to travel south to the interchange if that's
what you desire to do. So, this provides an opportunity for people to make u-
turns, I think it gives people a better feel for what just exactly is going on in this
particular area.
Hudson: I would just add that in that northbound right hand lane where you have
got a bit of a triangle left here we would become a major gateway to the
downtown. It's so important to differentiate between "to" and "through" traffic.
We are not trying to take all traffic away from downtown, we are trying to make
downtown a highly desirable destination so that people come to it, park, get out
and conduct their business and so on. These kinds of intersections as well as
the east connectors that are on Meridian further up become opportunities for
improving the gateway orientation inviting people to come in and making it very
easy for them to do so.
Taylor. The way that you treat some of the movements, for instance, this
northbound through movement are key in order to not - it discourages traffic, yet
it also doesn't discourage it too much. If you were to take this movement and
rather than it being a straight through movement, bring it up here and make it a
right turn movement, you would likely discourage more trips from going into that
area. So, that's a key element of being able to allow people a straight movement
into that Main Street corridor and into downtown. Are there questions related to
this? Next graphic then is in relation to the Waltman and Central intersection. I
have tried to color this so that you can follow it a little bit easier. Again, the
yellow is southbound, red is northbound, green is westbound ¡;¡nd then what did
you call if, Tom, violet? Violet is eastbound. One of the key things that we have
provided here that you can tell is access over into this Waltman Lane area, which
the other alternatives that have been looked at back in 1997 and since then have
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really focused on eliminating access to Waltman, taking it up and around and
connecting into Corporate. We really feel confident that we would be able to
have this be a full movement intersection in all directions, which would provide
for development opportunities in this property. All of the movements would
continue to be provided, left turns and right turns. If you are coming southbound
on Meridian and you want to go northbound on Main, you would go into the left
turn lane, which would allow you to make a left here or else make a u-turn and go
back up the other direction. Again, these areas depicted in green provide for a
great gateway type potential treatments and meet entry features into the city.
Hudson: One of the first things that I noted when I began working on the
downtown marKeting strategy in an aerial was this remartæble empty space on
the northwest corner of 1-84 and Meridian Road. Irs the sort of area that would
be very early developed in most urban locations and especially high growth
places like this and yet it's basically barren and the challenge is that intersection.
Irs really a difficult place to move around today. The feedback that we have
been getting is that there is a lot of sizzle here in a sense of a capacity to open
that area up and still allow all the different directions of traffic to move to and
through this particular intersection well and by doing something approximating
this the community can move forward with the development of that very viable
land, which has so far been really stifled up to now and in your urban renewal
this is going to be a very significant improvement to your overall development
opportunities, this is increment
Taytor. Because we have a one-way couplet in this southern area, based on
what we have today you can see that we have eliminated many movements that
need to be accommodated today that wouldn't need to be in the Mure because
this is one-way south and this is one-way north, so you are able to gain a high
level of efficiency in this type of a configuration because basically it's just your
typical four legged signalized intersection, which is very different than what we
have today. We are able to maintain traffic operations through here during peak
periods that are satisfactory in the year 2030. Any questions about this layout?
Okay.
Hudson: One of the greatest challenges that we have as a community in moving
forward with any alternative is an objective analysis process that gives us the
confidence that we are doing the right thing. You can imagine how many
complications there are to something like this. We are dealing with not just
dollars, we are dealing with safety issues, we are dealing with pedestrian
character, we are dealing with road widths, we are dealing with, well in fact, 19
different sets of issues according to the cities and ACHD's, let's say, priority
documents, the planning documents, your comprehensive plan and so on and
also the input about priorities from the community. So, we have used a process
called multi-aiteria evaluation that allows us to look at all of this kind of
information in a very systematic way. We took the 19 different priorities or what
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we are calling evaluation criteria and organized them into three distinct sets of
components. One is transportation impacts. One is community impacts and the
third is fiscal impacts. Then we weighted those using the combined insights of
your Steering team because as you can imagine not all criteria are equal. Some
things are more important than others so we used a very democratic process,
which was unanimously endorsed by the Steering Committee. So, again we
have listened very carefully to the historic insight of the community itself. These
aren't things that we are just making up ourselves. These are from our own
community documents. We then scored or lefs say evaluated each of these
alternatives according to those very explicit criteria. Using multi criteria
evaluations, which is a method that allows you to compare each set of scores in
each criterion and then combine them so that you end up with a combined total
score to get what you see here. The higher the score the better. What you see
is at the base in the base condition that is more or less what we have today
except for regional improvements, a score of 29. That score. is not out of 100, it's
29 in comparison to the other alternative's performance. So, it had the lowest at
which I am sure why intuitively the community said no, we don't want to go there.
The next lowest was 47, which is relatively similar to the widened Meridian Road
or in the relatively similar scoring area; split the corridor, however, stood
substantially above all of the others given all three areas of transportation
community and fiscal impacts. Now, we spent months going through this and
then after we spent months, we decided we needed about another month or five
weeks to look at transportation costs. That is the implementation cost of
acquiring right of way and also construction. So, the cost. that you see at the
bottom here are estimates that were provided by our associates at ACHD and
they are included in the evaluation under fiscal impacts. So, this isn't separate.
It's included, but we knew that you would want to see the numbers, so we have
shared those here at the bottom: 5.6 million dollars for the couplet; 9.9 million
dollars for widening Meridian Road, which is the most expensive and then the
split corridor at 8.3 million dollars. So, all things considered, 19 explicit criteria
carefully evaluated by all members of the team. These were city representatives,
ACHD representatives, downtown business people, citizens, historic
preservation, two members from your own transportation task force, the city's
Transportation Task Force, etc., and the unanimous conclusion was
endorsement of these figures and a recommendation to City Council for support
of the split corridor. I believe that Mr. Siddoway has a letter from the Steering
Committee to City Council. Has that been distributed?
Donnell: Yes.
Hudson: Thank you. So, now for the next steps. We are forwarding our
recommendations to you. We have got a draft interim report that we have
handed over to Mr. Siddoway for his review. He will then provide that to City
Council, but we are saying to you orally what will be in that, but you will of course
have more detail. We will then be providing you with our final report and then it
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would be in your hands to evaluate as a city's leaders our own investigation and
research and determined what you believe is in the best interest of the
community. Then our understanding is that your recommendations will be
forwarded to ACHD for I would say a collaborative discussion because there are
lots of opportunities here; a lot of ways to approach the implementation of
whatever preferred alternative you think is appropriate. ACHD, of course, has it's
own process for decision-making. That's under evaluation. A final decision
regarding the system and the implementation timing and then implementation.
We are not able to put a timeline on that, but ifs our understanding that this is a
high priority both to Council and to ACHD Commissioners, so we don't think that
this is going to take dramatically a long time, depending only upon what you
might see as complicated or controversial. I would just conclude again with the
key point that we have people from abroad range of backgrounds who have
come together to unanimously endorse the split corridor concept Having said
that we do understand, fully recognize that no matter what we would bring
forward there will be people in the community who would feel less well served
than with another alternative. That's one of the difficulties of such a substantial
challenge as the one that you face today. I would end by saying, but how would
things be today if only we had been able to make a decision ten years ago and
implement it. How much better would things be? With that, we would be happy
to take your questions or guidance.
Wardle: Thank you, Mr. Hudson, Council, Madame Mayor, we are at our allotted
time. If anyone has a pressing question, I would take just a short moment for
that Madame Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. President. I guess, Council, do you have anything that you feel
needs to be presented tomorrow at the joint meeting? Any suggestions, as well?
Rountree: Did you say in terms of recommendation and endorsement by the
Council? Additional information presented by Tom and company?
De Weerd: Additional.
Wardle: Tom I have just a question and that is - that might come up and has
come up in my mind is we have got a recommendation forward and we will be
meeting with ACHD tomorrow and then in addition holding a public hearing or not
a public hearing, but a public meeting and inviting the public to comment Some
members of the public might wonder where their comments are going to go after
tomorrow evening's process if this recommendation is already in place?
Hudson: Mr. President, we feel that it's important for citizens to continue to be a
part of the process and we will emphasize to citizens tomorrow night, unless you
advise us otherwise to share their views with Council. Having said that, we have
had a number of public exchanges. We have done a lot of outreach in other
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ways. As you know, we have spoken to a number of community organizations in
addition to our public meetings. We have forwarded to you citizen input. It is
time contractually and morally for us to have the Steering teams' opinion about
forward as well. So, you have it. We have done the best work that we can
possibly do as a Steering team and as a consulting team. We bring forward far
more information than we had originally anticipated that we would be able to do
in the short time that we have had. We feel confident that this is the best
alternative for the city. Having said that, this is a difficult decision and we think
that it's entirely correct to encourage citizens to share their views, whether they
support this alternative or not Thank you.
De Weerd: Mr. President.
Wardle: Madame Mayor.
De Weerd: I guess at the last public meeting, they took public comments and
then typed it up and made those comments available to Council. We would like
that feedback from the public meeting. I will be in attendance, but I think it will be
helpful as well.
Hudson: Mr. President, I would also like to say that in straw poll taken at the end
of that last public meeting, by far the largest number of votes for an alternative
went to the split corridor. It was only a straw poll and I would not say it was
scientific, but I think it's safe to say that despite of being a new concept to the
community there was significant support there.
Wardle: Mr. Siddoway?
Siddoway: I understand we are short of time, but just answer further the question
about the public process. Our intent tonight was to Just gage the Council's level
of comfort with taking this forward to both ACHD Commission tomorrow and the
public tomorrow night. But, you will see that our recommendation from the
Steering Committee in that letter is that even once this plan is done and we have
a preferred alternative developed, we would recommend that it be taken through
a public hearing process to be adopted as part of an addendum to the
Comprehensive Plan. So, we would propose that there would be a full public
hearing process added on to the back end of the development of this plan.
Wardle: If there is nothing else I would entertain -
Bird: I move that we adjourn.
Rountree: Second.
Wardle: It's been moved and seconded to adjourn. All in favor? Opposed?
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ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 7:07 P.M.
(TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
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