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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005 01-11 Pre Meridian City Pre-Council Meetina Januarv 11. 2005 The Meridian City Pre-Council meeting was called to order at 6:00 P.M. on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 by Mayor Tammy de Weerd. Members Present: Keith Bird, Christine Donnell, Shaun Wardle and Charlie Rountree. Staff Present: Bill Nary, Kenny Bowers, Bill Johnson, Anna Canning, Ted Baird, Catrina Thomas, Diane Stewart, Brad Watson, Bill Musser and Will Berg. Item 1. RoIl-ca1l Attendance: Rollcall. X Shaun Wardle X Christine Donnell X Charlie Rountree X Keith Bird - Mayor Tammy de Weerd Item 2. Adoption of the Agenda: Wardle: Mr. President. I move that we adopt the agenda as published. Bird: Before we have a second can I forgot to add one thing. Under Executive Session, Shaun, we need to add an item Of' and "bo. Is that okay? Would you agree with that? Wardle: Motion agrees. Bird: Okay, now we can take a second. Rountree: Second. Bird: Okay, it's been motioned and seconded to adopt the agenda as published. All in favor? Opposed? ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. Presentation on the EMS Co-Iocation Agreement by Troy Hagen: Nary: Members of the Council, Mr. Hagen is going to come up to the mic. What I asked him to do is to come and give a little presentation from Ada County regarding the co-Iocation of the EMS personnel in our fire stations. I have handed out a draft agreement that was prepared by the county. Today I did get a requested change to a couple of conditions in here and I haven't had time to review those from the (inaudible) attorney, Mr. Fitzgerald. I got it right at the end Item 3. Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting January 11, 2005 Page 2 of 15 of the day, so I haven't had time to review those. I don't anticipate those being significant so I will get those to you as soon as I can. I don't think Mr. Hagen has even seen those, but they were just some minor wording changes, but anyway, I will let Mr. Hagen take it from here, but I just wanted to get that agreement in front of you and if everything looks like this is acceptable then we could put this agreement on in the next week or two for you folks as well as the County Commissioners. Bird: Thank you Mr. Nary. Mr. Hagen. Hagen: Mr. President, Council thank you for giving us this opportunity to come and speak with you tonight. As you are aware, we have been in ongoing negotiations with Chief Bowers and the Meridian Fire Department about doing a co-location agreement to move one of our ambulances and staff into the fire stations. What you have before you is just a cover letter that outlines the proposal as well as our complete response time analysis that we did for the last fiscal year, which ended September 30, 2004. A little bit of background on what we utilize in the Emergency Medical Services to identify station locations and determine what our deployment strategies will be as we - we work on a call volume, which is a little bit different than you may be accustomed to with like the Fire Departments and so forth. They base it on geography, where they try to work it where they are covering buildings and they are covering population and so forth and they can set up and determine their station locations years in advance and base that on the growth that they are going to anticipate. With Emergency Medical Services we based it on call demand. So, we look at exactly where the calls happen and say that's where we need an ambulance to be able to meet our response time standards and our response time standards for advanced life support, paramedic ambulance is eight minutes, 90 percent of the time. That's our goal. For basic life support and what the Fire Departments currently provide, it's for that same thing within four minutes. So, four minutes 90 percent of the time, those are our national response time goals that have been set forth by American Heart Association and that's what we try to attain. Under our current administration (inaudible) previously we were co-Iocated with Meridian Fire Department and were so for many years and in my opinion that worked very well. I was a field paramedic at the time. We had a great working relationship with the Fire Department and pretty much exactly what we are proposing today as far as we had an ambulance and personnel staffed in the fire station, we would go out together, we would handle the calls, we would come back and it gave us the opportunity to talk about the calls and really enjoyed a good working relationship, a good education and in overall a very good working relationship. Back when St. Luke's Meridian was built, our director at that time took advantage of an offer to move a station out there and what they did was they moved it out of the Meridian Fire Department and put it in St. Luke's Meridian, which offered us a larger station. It was one of the extra rooms that was functioning as our station in the old Meridian Fire Station as you know was not very well equipped for (inaudible ) and we made it work and it Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting January 11, 2005 Page 3 of 15 worked okay. When they built that station it was actually for a regular station with all the amenities and so forth and the director at that time moved it out there. The down side of that is that it moved us away from our call (inaudible) and we have been kind of fighting and scratching to get back into the City of Meridian since that time. As we look at our response times and then we had the funding issues that continued to crawl up with the Medicare rulings and so forth that I am sure that you are well aware of and it's been a matter of how can we move when, you know, we can't afford to build a station? Again, with the change in administration that we had again this year and I was placed in as director, it's one of my priorities was to get back into the City of Meridian and we started ongoing negotiations with the Fire Department to see if we could do something jointly, which could save both taxpayer money and effectively utilize all of our resources. This isn't unique. We currently co-locate in Boise Fire Department, Eagle Fire Department and Kuna Fire Departments and the (inaudible) Fire District, which is operated by Boise Fire. So, this is not new and it has worked extremely well with the other fire departments and I think it will continue to work well here. But again, as we sat down we did this response time analysis and we looked at where are all the calls happening in Meridian in the last - and this is actually nine months snap shot, the map that you have in here. Because of the dispatch, the CAD change, we couldn't pull the information out of the old system to populate this map. So, this is nine months worth of data - in that map that's immediately following the cover page there. Anyway, by looking et that we said okay where do we need to effectively located to cover 90 percent of our calls in the City of Meridian? We looked at where the current fire stations are located and said that with our current resources that we have at St. Luke's Meridian and we also are operating one station out of the Boise Fire Stetion 10 at McMillan and Cloverdale, which hits the comer of the Meridian district as well, where else could we put one that will optimize our coverage pattern in Meridian 32 of the Ten Mile between Ustick and Cherry Station would be a very good location to do that and so what we are actually proposing is looking at the number of calls where our current, full transporting - two person transport unit at 51, which is St. Luke's Meridian, moving thet one to Meridian 32 and putting a two person ambulance in that station. Then following that up and putting in one of our single paramedic resources back at St. Luke's Meridian is what we are looking at right now. That would optimize the coverage for the City of Meridian and with all those three resources in place and again one could be called out at any time, but if all three of them were in place we would have 100 percent coverage for the City of Meridian and we could get the 75 percent of the rural calls for the Meridian Rural District within that 8 minute guidelines and again that kind of goes back to that map on the second page of the cover letter, that is what that is kind of telling you of how many stations are available in the percentages that we can get there and then the map that's in yellow, the yellow is what we anticipate as all the areas that we can reach within 8 minutes from those three stations, which provides very good coverage for the City of Meridian and so that's really what we are trying to optimize by having this co-Iocation agreement is trying to get into the City of Meridian, get back to where we need to be and helping cover that station with Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting January 11, 2005 Page40f15 only a minimal impact on either of our operations as far as I can see because again we had a good (inaudible) in the past and certainly anticipate to have that again in the future. Bird: Any questions for Troy? You said you would have a two person ambulance out there, so, the one concern that we had was the our fire fighters would have to drive an ambulance in, but we won't because you will have two out there? Hagen: Mr. President, Council that is a very good question. That also led into our decision about where we could optimally place our transport unit verses a one-person unit and I know that was a concern for the City of Meridian is that would minimize that chance. Right now the Fire Department does (inaudible) force on critical calls - when we go out there and say hey we need paramedics in the back and they have offered that to us and we certainly appreciate that. That's the best overall for all of our patients is to optimize that care. What this would do is that it would cover a majority of the calls with our transport ambulance. There are still some that are on the fringe where that may run into that. As we had this discussion with Mr. Nary last week was that part of the agreement, an operational agreement, I think is still something that we need to put together. This agreement here is more let's get the location and the logistics of that set up and then we will work on it and will continue to work on the operational aspects and develop that. My goal would be to have all the fire departments and EMS doing it the same wherever they are at in the County. So, whether they are going to drive or not going to drive, what the criteria is for that and trying to set up a joint thing and as part of the agreement that was sent out by the Ada County Commission to all the cities and fire departments to develop the working group is that we are about to launch into developing that group and which will bring all the fire departments and EMS together and so we can start talking about some of these operational issues and maximize our effectiveness. Bird: Good. I think the Council is very interested in getting the best coverage that we can for our citizens and this is definitely one big step towards it, I believe. Any other questions Council? Nary: Mr. President. Bird: Mr. Nary. Nary: Just to follow up there on what Mr. Hagen said. I think when we are looking at our timing perspective just for your enlightenment, I think as we move towards our EMT Firefighters and moving our workforce in a newer direction, I think that we felt that that was the best opportunity to work with EMS in trying to get those operational types of agreements in place. We did add a condition in here; there was a question that was raised about just the living environment and whether there would be issues or concerns that might be raised internally, just in Meridian City pre-council Meeting January 11, 2005 Page 5 of 15 the fire stations. We just had a provision in there that basically both the entities are going to work to resolve all those differences as much as possible, you knoW, in the firehouse and if we need to go beyond that we can deal with that, but we just put some language in there that just makes people aware that that was the intent to really at this point just provide a location for the EMS folks to be, a place for their vehide to be and then we would work on some of those other things as we progress. Bird: Thank you Mr. Nary. Mr. Wardle. Wardle: Mr. President I agree that this is something that we have been looking forward to and is very needed within the City for the public safety of our citizens and you addressed a question of mine and that was we have heard some stories in the past of a caller - a fire truck would go and then a one person unit followed again by a transport unit and so I think it is important for at least the city to understand that we have at least the majority of the time the ability to maximize the tax dollars and send that one unit out with the Fire Department as well. Bird: Any other questions for Troy? Thank you very much. We need to get working on this and get this thing solved and get it out there. Chief Bowers would like to say anything? Bowers: President, Council members, yeah we are excited for them to be out there. As you know we have been trying for years and years to get an ambulance over in this area and I think we are finally real dose to doing that. Having the paramedics in house really helps us out on training issues as Troy said. After a call, after an auto accident, we come back and the paramedics ask our firefighters why did you cut the roof here? Why did you take the door off here? So, that's kind of a learning experience. Then on the other hand, as we go on trauma calls, paramedics will help us out when we come back and say why did you do that? Why did you move the body here? Move the mouth or the head in this direction? So, it is going to help out tremendously; The one thing that Troy and I have talked about quite often is trust. I mean, when our people are out in the field, they will trust each other, I think, a lot more if they are living together and know each other a lot more. Bird: Thank you, Kenny. Any questions for Chief Bowers? Thank you very much. Let's get this thing going and get it out there. Item 4. Economic Development Quarterly Report by Cheryl Brown: Brown: I am going to kind of go through some bullet points and a summary of what I have been working on for the last couple of months, then I am going to get to this. Okay? Then I will open it up for any questions that you have for me when I am done. I have been working with the Department of Commerce and Labor on gathering statistics for the overall picture of Meridian and what I am Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting January 11, 2005 Page6of15 looking for is workforce availability, percentages of what types of businesses are here, size of businesses and per capita income and employment. I am getting these type of questions on the leads that I am getting in from BMEDC, which is BVAP now and the other developers that I have been working with out of Idaho. I have been working with the engineering and building departments with Bruce Freckleton. We are trying to get this process streamlined on some of these commercial projects. We have already sped up the tenant improvement projects, simplified the preliminary plat applications and we are working on a new tracking report for commercial development montMo-month and year-to-year. I have been working with the University of Phoenix with their public relations class and they covered a marketing strategy for Meridian. I worked with the master's class on the Ten Mile Interchange study and we had some really good information on that and I am going to continue working with them towards the economic development efforts for the City of Meridian. They have really been great helping us and working with us and giving me people to work with to pull information that I need. We are starting a new economic development committee and it's brand new, we just had our first meeting a few weeks ago. We are currently working on an economic development charter and strategic plan. There is a member's list in the packet and I will get to that here in a minute. We are trying to raise money. So far, we have raised $3,000, but we have a lot more major companies who have pledged a lot more money, we just haven't got the checks in yet. I have been compiling property listings and acreages that are available in Meridian, building a base to draw from for the inquiries that I am getting in. 1 am also gathering letters of support from businesses like T -Mobile to put in the information packets that I send out and to put on the website. I am working with an advertising agency. We are in the final design for the brochure and it should be done this week. This is the new brochure that we will be sending out as part of the information. We have completed our slogan, built for business designed for living. We are collecting, branding, marketing and advertising ideas and prices where we can put these dollars that we do generate. As far as the website, it is up and running. It's user friendly and informative. There is a page in there on how to open a business in Meridian. There is zoning maps that I worked with COMPASS on. There are informational pages and statistics. There is other links on there linking to State, Commerce and Labor, the Chamber of Commerce and other state type businesses that a potential client would be interested in looking at. I am meeting with Circle Tree Media next week to discuss how they are going to be enhancing the design for the Economic Development page, managing it and them funding it so it won't have to come out of any city dollars. The meetings that I have been attending is the Boise Valley Economic Development. I am on the new business attractions committee, the Idaho Economic Development Association, Meridian's Chambers Economic Development Committee and the new committee that we are forming. Also, a community center committee for Meridian. Some leads that 1 have got in from the Boise Valley Economic Development and from Commerce and Labor have been a lot of - I have been getting a lot of leads on call centers. I even had one recently that wanted an all Spanish speaking call center and of course we didn't Meridian city Pre-Council Meeting January 11, 2005 Page 7 of 15 have the workforce for that and really the need for this. I have had inquiries on food packaging and distribution centers, home built aircraft manufacturing plants, office and warehouse type operations. I have had inquiries on acreages ranging from 15 acres to 500 acres zoned industrial for warehouse in manufacturing type operations. Some local things developers and projects that I have been working on was a site selection magazine a couple of weeks for 2004 for a new or expanded facilities. This is for the annual governor's cup rankings, which are published in the March issue. To be eligible for this you need to have either a one million dollar investment, create 50 jobs or more or add an additional 20,000 square feet. I compiled the information and sent this one out and part of that I am going to talk about is in this packet as well. Meridian Market Place, the Movie Cinemas, Bridgetower's commercial building, Silverstone Developer and the businesses out there Central Valley Corporate Park, restaurants and businesses going in on Eagle Road, DBSI, Downtown Meridian - Clair Bowman and I communicate frequently about what is going on in downtown Meridian and how I can help him with the people that he has got interested in coming into downtown Meridian and then a few other developers that I have worked with from Scottsdale, Las Vegas and California. I met with Idaho Power on the electrical capacity and the Silverstone area, the Eagle Road and Pine Street area and the Eagle Road in Ustick areas and there is either existing ~pacity available or plans to increase the electrical capacity in the area and they are also going to be funding our economic development efforts. I have met with several commercial real estate brokers to establish building and land availability. I have met with architects, developers and investors and spoke with them on city processes, why Meridian is the best place to do business and how we can best serve their needs. Once they do commit to coming to Meridian then I will see their project through the process and keep both the city and the developer on a timeline that we both agreed upon. If you refer to your packets, the first page that I have there is a letter from me that I have sent out. I have that on the website. It's also - I have had real estate brokers want this letter to put into their packets that they send out on any Meridian information. The second page that you should have this spreadsheet, the commercial activity summary for 2004. I have broke it out to new buildings, tenant improvement and signs and you can see month by month and then down at the bottom there is a combined new buildings and tenant improvements for each month of the year 2004. The next page is a commercial activity summary for the years 2003 and 2004 and how they compare. The new buildings for 2003, tenant improvements and totals came to. 182 for the year. For the year 2004 came to 214. Bird: Cheryl, excuse me. Those are calendar years, not fiscal years right? Brown: Yes. The next page - this is only part of what of the information that I sent out to the site selection magazine committee, but I found it real interesting and just kind of narrowed it down for you to look at. If you look at some of these bigger projects that we have here - Fairview Lakes - when I talked to the developers at these different businesses and business parks and ask them what Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting January 11, 2005 Page 8 of 15 at build out is your project worth? We have got Fairview Lakes here at 20.6 million dollars with 220 square feet. Silverstone they estimate that at 270 million dollars with 1.55 million square feet. Central Valley Corporate Park 165 million dollars with 1.1 million square feet. The second to the last page is the economic development committee members' list and if you look at this list you will see that there is some pretty big heavy hitters on this list and these are going to be the people who are spending the money in Meridian. These are the movers and shakers of the economic development for the Valley and I wanted these people on the list because they are going to be the ones helping to generate the businesses coming into Meridian and helping us market these companies to come into Meridian. The last page in here I got sent to me the other day from the Boise Valley Economic Partnership and I am just going to read a couple little quotes in here. Joel Kautkin is a contributing editor to the Inc. Magazine. He visited Boise on January 4"'. He is conducting research for the next ranking of the top cities for doing business in America. Impressed with the assistance he said he could see how companies consider the area and would be Impressed with such services. The top ten cities for doing business in America's article will appear in the March or April of 2005. He did not reveal exactly where the Boise - Nampa MSA ranked but says you placed very high. So this really is a place that people are really seriously looking at. Bird: Thank you very much for the report Cheryl. Council any questions for Cheryl? Wardle: Mr. President. Bird: Mr. Wardle. Wardle: Cheryl you mentioned that you have got a new process in place to work with both the developers and the city. How are you holding the city to that timeline for permitting? Brown: Bruce Freckleton and I are working on a visual tracking process so that the city can see each step where it is and how long it has been there. They have their own timelines for different projects. So, I can track it, the developer can track it and so can Bruce down at his office. Donnell: Mr. President. Bird: Ms. Donnell. Donnell: Lots of work that you have been doing in the last - not very long. A couple of questions that I have. I mean I think that we all know that the Economic Development Committee of the Meridian Chamber of Commerce is a volunteer committee, so what they can do they do when they have a little bit of time from their regular jobs. And you did mention that you are serving on that Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting January 11,2005 Page 9 of 15 committee as well. So, my question is how much has that contributed to any of these inquiries that you listed? And then I know that you are attending BVEP the Boise Valley Economic Partnership - what is your relationship with Sheryl Boyce and do we have a link from their website, which is truly the website that folks outside of Idaho will go to? They will go to Boise City because that is the city they recognize, not Meridian, so do we have that link established? Brown: Yes, we do. Donnell: So, it comes to us if in fact they want to do this? Brown: Yes. Donnell: So, tell me - then I will back up on the other question and tell me about the Chamber and what kind of progress, I guess is the best word that you are seeing with the economic development committee with the Chamber. Because they feel disconnected from the city. Brown: They do and I know that. And my focus is solely on economic development and I know theirs isn't, you know, they have got everything else that they are doing as well. I know Sheryl and I have a really good working relationship. I talked to him all the time and he sends all of the leads to me for my response and he has called me a few times and you know, what do you think about this or what do you think about that? Teri and I have a good working relationship, I feel, but I would like to be the one to send out the inquiries on this because this is my focus and this isn't their main focus. It's part of their focus, but they have got other things that they are doing and I don't. So, I can gather everything and Teri and I have talked back and forth and I have called her to ask her if she had certain numbers or statistics and she has called me also. So, we do share information and email each other pretty frequently. Donnell: They do send out a packet of information when you get inquiries? Brown: Yes. Donnell: So what do we have in there in terms of what the city would have to --? Brown: We are revamping those and Teri and I are both working on the brochure together and when we get that brochure finalized and it's in the final stages right now. Then we are going to look at the whole packet because I think the whole packet needs to be revamped so that we are both sending out the same thing. Donnell: Yes, exactly. De Weerd: Mr. President. Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting January 11, 2005 Page 10 of 15 Bird: Madame Mayor. De Weerd: Just to take that a liWe bit further is when Cheryl gets an inquiry she does let Teri at the Chamber know, so they are aware when we get those and what we have been doing is basically tailoring each packet to the particular inquiry. So, it's only relative to that and they don't have to shift through piles of paper to find the information they need. Also, some of the money that is being focused on the economic development from the private industry is to go towards these tools and the same firm, Ryan Riley with Cirde Tree Media he came in and talked to US today and stated that he wants to work with the City to package an effective and dynamic website and we will be the benefactor of this package that he is developing so that as they market it they can have an actual place where they can see how dynamic that is, how interactive and responsive to the users. He will focus on economic development and has some ideas that we started working on about one year ago anyway. So, there is a lot of progress that has been made and I guess that some of the un-tangible benefits have been the increased awareness to the business community and to those that are out marketing out of the Valley as to we are serious about our customer service. They have seen that. They have seen the commitment and quite frankly some of the names from people that I have talked to, they are surprised they are involved and they said this speaks highly of their buy in that your effort is very serious and they like what they see. Wardle: Just one more follow up question. Cheryl, you mentioned that we are moving forward with the brochure. There was a discussion that at one point about the Chamber sharing in the cost of the joint brochure. Is that still planned? Brown: Yes. Bird: Any other questions? If not, thank you Cheryl it was a very nice report and I won't be President in the next quarter, but we expect you in three more months. ItemS. Discussion of Parks and Recreations Fees: Bird: I think we got a young lady here that is back with us again that would like to discuss this with us. Thomas: Do you all have the fee schedule? Just wanted to make sure. Donnell: I was trying to print it off from home but- Thomas: I have an extra copy if you'd like to have it. Donnell: I would love one because I think that's really hard to read. Meridian City Pre-Council MeetJng January 11, 2005 Page 11 of15 Thomas: It is really small print. This is the activity guide that just came off the press today. Bird: This will be in the paper Thursday? Thomas: Yes, Thursday. Okay, basically this is a list of the fees that we list per any of our activities or sporting events through the Meridian Parks and Recreation. These are fees that some of them have already been approved and they are noted on the right column by percentage of change. If they are new, it states new. There are fees that haven't been approved yet and they are needing that approval and basically they are all pretty self-explanatory what the fees are. It's for shelters, softball fields, any of our activities whether they are youth activities, adult activities, our sports, softball, volleyball and basketball and also we have included fees for our special events. There is one for the barn sour that, guess, was the first occurrence last year and then the summer sizzler which was the first occurrence last year and the permits are also new for the amplified sound permit, the park use permit and the short term concession permit. Those are all pennits that have needed to be in place for quite some time, so that we can start to hold special events in our parks. We have had people asking to do that for years and we are just now getting into it so that we can finally start holding those. We are also working with the city attorney to work on the ordinance for the sound permit so that we can break the ordinance. Nary: Mr. President. Bird: Mr. Nary. Nary: It conjunction with that I am going to hand out a draft ordinance - I sent one for Doug and I didn't realize he was out of town this week, so he has it. What I did was this was the current city ordinance. There is only one exception in the city ordinance to - and that is for regularly scheduled events in the park. In trying to give permits to folks to allow for I guess ones that are not regularly scheduled then our ordinance needs to have something that allows permitted events. What I did was I had written the Boise Noise Ordinance and so most of these exemptions are very similar to what's in the Boise Noise Ordinances a variety of different things. We certainly don't have to adopt any of them or all of them, but I wanted them for an example and you have an opportunity to review them and decide and give me some direction as to which, if any, you would like to have. The ones that would probably deal with the Park's ones specifically is under the exceptions section two, which is sounds that are in any outdoor municipal score, religious or publicly owned property, park or facility. So, that way any event that is occurring in the parks the rationale that we would use in the past is if you live next to a park that is kind of how it goes. That's really realistically what people have to expect. There will be activity. There will be a lot more people gathered and thet is why you live there and that is something that you don't like, then you probably shouldn't be living right next to a park. The Melidian City Pre-Council Meeting January 11, 2005 Page 12 of 15 other one is exception three, which is sounds caused by parades or other events where permits are granted and there is some other language. But, those two would probably cover most of the events that would be involved in park activity. There are some other ones that have said these are the other ones that we had written in Boise and if there is things there you think might be beneficial, I gave a copy to the chief tonight so we could take a look at it as well. We can certainly delete any of those that you would like, add any of those that you would like. We can bring that forward before we get to the approval of those fees in a few weeks. Donnell: Mr. President. Bird: Mrs. Donnell. Donnell: A question for Mr. Nary on the sound ordinance and we are not ignoring you. We just have to talk about these park messes. Does this have any relation to the noise that was generated by what is it the Louisiana Pacific? So, is this what you are saying in terms of it not being very specific in terms of noise? Nary: No. Well, currently yeah. The current ordinance basically the portion that you have in front of you that is not underlined is our current ordinance. The provision that a few folks have called me about - a few hundred have called me about is number four is the noise from building. But, if you note in the ordinance that basically it says noises from buildings and then it talks about specific kinds of noises, audio equipment, musical instruments, band sessions, social gatherings. So, what the example that's the ordinance or things that really aren't talking about business operations. Donnell: Well, my question was then you have not made any changes to this noise ordinance to deal with that? Nary: Correct. Donnell: This is strictly just for the use of Parks and Recreation? Nary: Correct. Donnell: One of the exceptions that is in the Boise one that is in this would deal with not just Louisiana Pacific but general business types of things. Number seven of the underlined section, says sounds caused by devices or machinery that's part of the use for within the confines of a particular zoning designation that the devices are located or pursuant to a conditional use permit. The rationale behind that provision was if a person goes through or a business goes through the process to get a conditional use permit it didn't make sense to then allow them to operate under one section of the code and then turn around and site Meridian City Pre-CouncU Meeting January 11. 2005 Page 13 of 15 them under another one. So, that's one that might address that in the future for Louisiana Pacific, but right now this isn't going to change any of that. Donnell: Thank you. Bird: Any questions for Catrina? Donnell: Mr. President. Bird: Yes. Donnell: Catrina there really are no increases then in any of the fees? They are aU just new? Thomas: Yeah, they are unfortunately, the fees that we have that (inaudible) new, they are the ones that haven't been approved. We have just kind of been running without approval and so that is why we are doing this. So, that we can get approval and be legit. Donnell: Because there is a requirement, as I understand, that if you increase fees that you would have to publish that increase. Thomas: Exactly. (Inaudible discussion) Donnell: So, none of these fall into -? Thomas: I don't believe so. I think all of them are all new. The ones that we had that had been approved, they are all still within that range. They have stayed within that range of increasing when it had been improved. So, yeah, the rest of them are all just new. Donnell: Super. Bird: So we need to get - this is the fees that you want? Thomas: Yes. Bird: So, we need to get a resolution and public hearing set? Thomas: Yes. Bird: And is that two weeks, Will, notice for a public hearing? Nary: Fifteen days. Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting January 11. 2005 Page 14 of 15 Berg: Fifteen days from when it's published. Wardle: Mr. President. Bird: Mr. Wardle. Wardle: Catrina, could you refresh my memory. Has this come forward with a recommendation of approval from the Parks and Recreation? Thomas: Yes. I believe that was in November. Bird: Okay, Council, what is your pleasure? Should we have a resolution drawn up and bring it forward and get the public hearing scheduled? Rountree: So moved. Wardle: Second. Bird: Okay, it's been moved and seconded to bring the fees forward with a resolution and a public hearing. All in favor say aye. Opposed? ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. Item 6. Executive Session per Idaho State Code 67-234S(1)(f): Rountree: I move that we go into Executive Session per Idaho State Code 67- 2345(1)(f)(b). Wardle: Second. Bird: It's been moved and seconded to go into Executive Session. Clerk, roll call please. Berg: Thank you Mr. President, members of the Council. Rountree, aye; Wardle, aye; Donnell, aye; Bird, aye; All ayes. Roll call vote: ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. Bird: I would entertain a motion to come out of Executive Session. Rountree: So moved. Wardle: Second. Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting January 11,2005 Page 150f15 Bird: It's been moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed? Okay, let it be shown that nothing was approved in the Executive Session. That concludes our Pre-Council meeting, Council. I would entertain a motion for adjournment. Rountree: Mr. President, I move we adjourn the Pre-Council meeting. Wardle: Second. Bird: It's been moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed? ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:50 P.M. (TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) APPROVED: T_œ~