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HomeMy WebLinkAboutNovember 18, 2004 P&Z Minutes Meridian Planning & Zoning November 18, 2004 Page 3 of 64 Moe: Yes. Borup: That's one of our off Thursdays; right? Canning: Yes. It's a fourth Thursday. I'll double-check. February 24th. Newton-Huckabay: In the evening? Canning: Pardon? Newton-Huckabay: In the p.m? Canning: Yes. Okay. I will work on those and get you more information. Item 2: Adoption of the Agenda: Item 3: Consent Agenda: A. Approve Minutes of October 21 2004 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting: Borup: Thank you. Next item is minutes of October 21 sl. Do we have any comments or additions? Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move we approve the minutes of October 21 st, 2004, as written. Rohm: Second. Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed? MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Item 4: Recommendation: VAC 04-008 Request for a Vacation of a portion of the 5-foot utility easements located on each side of the shared lot line of Lots 26 & 27, Block 1 for Lochsa Falls Subdivision No.6 by Ramsey Homes - 1660 West Glade Creek: Borup: Okay. Next Item is VAC 04-008. This is a -- this is not a Public Hearing, it would be a recommendation from this Commission. It's a request for vacation of a portion of five-foot utility easement on each side of a shared lot line. I'd like to go ahead and start with the staff report. Hawkins-Clark: Thank you, Chairman Borup, Members of the Commission. You have seen several of these vacations before. I won't spend much time on this one. It just Meridian Planning & Zoning November 18, 2004 Page 4 of 64 involves two lots and it is a side utility easement. The location is in Lochsa Falls Subdivision No.6. Both affected lots, actually, do back up to Linder Road. This is a blow up of the final plat that they got and we are talking about this northeast corner, these on two lots, 26 and 17, and this is the plot plan that you got in your applications that shows the footprint of the residence as it was constructed and the proposed new lot line would follow this southerly line here and the new easement would follow that. So, staff's looking for the Commission's recommendation for approval to the Council for this. Borup: Questions from any of the Commissioners? Zaremba: I noted in the report that anybody interested in the easements is acknowledging they don't need it and plus one person that hasn't -- who was it? Cable One hasn't responded yet, but I assume that will happen. Hawkins-Clark: Yes. Actually, we did -- staff did receive Cable One relinquishment a couple of days ago. Zaremba: The only question I would have is after parcel 26 is reconfigured to remove amount of area, is it still over 8,000 square feet? Do we know that? Hawkins-Clark: Yes, we do know that and it is. Zaremba: Okay. Hawkins-Clark: Yes. Borup: These are the new square footage numbers? Hawkins-Clark: That's correct. Zaremba: Oh. Okay. I thought that was the old numbers. Moe: I guess I would have one question and it may be trivial here, but why was this not done before the house was built? Zaremba: Did somebody mis-measure when they built the house? Hawkins-Clark: I will not speak on behalf of Ramsey Homes tonight. Moe: Good enough. Borup: The other question I had is when the square footage is adequate, the frontage at the street is 40 feet, but, then, it narrows up. Is there anything in ordinance at all that addresses that? Because they don't have 40 feet by the time you're back 15 feet. Meridian Pianning & Zoning November 18, 2004 Page 5 of 64 Hawkins-Clark: Chairman Borup, If I could just clarify. You're talking about the frontage that's here and then -- Borup: Right. Hawkins-Clark: -- as you extend to the east, then, it tapers down? Borup: Well, yeah, I'm looking at the front point right there, that 40 -- Hawkins-Clark: Oh, I see. Right. Right. Well, I mean the frontage is measured on the cord measurement, which -- Borup: Right. That's what I understand. Hawkins-Clark: Yeah. Borup: But using that same criteria you could -- you could have lots with 40-foot of frontage that would neck back to ten feet and still comply. Is that what you're saying? Hawkins-Clark: Technically that's correct. Borup: Okay. Hawkins-Clark: Obviously, you have to have a build-able lot. Borup: Right. I mean I know that's not practical, that's taken to the extreme, but, apparently, that's not something that's addressed. Hawkins-Clark: Right. I mean the flag lot, you know, is sort of part of that scenario where flag lots can come out and only touch at 15 feet, so that you can get behind, you know, another house or something like that, but -- Zaremba: On that same subject, from where would you measure a setback, a front setback? From that narrow throat point or from the street? Hawkins-Clark: It would be from the property line. Yeah. Nearest the right of way in the front. Is that your question, Commissioner, on terms of the front -- the front building setback, where would that be measured from? Zaremba: Right. Hawkins-Clark: Yeah. 1-- Borup: Any other questions, Commissioners? Did the same builder own both lots? Zaremba: Do we need to post somebody out there to watch them? Meridian Planning & Zoning November 18, 2004 Page 6 of 64 Borup: No. I mean is that -- apparently. That's what it looked like. Hawkins-Clark: We did, Chairman, receive affidavits from two different people, two different owners. One was Ramsey Homes and the one was Jay Heath and Emilee Holverson. Borup: They were the owners on Lot 27. Hawkins-Clark: There has been a change of title since this application was submitted, it sounds like. Borup: Okay. Any concluding questions? Zaremba: Yeah. If staff is satisfied that Lot 26 is still build-able, I don't have any problem with it. Borup: Okay. We just need a motion for a recommendation. Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward to the City Council recommending approval of VAC 04-008, to include all staff comments of their memo for the hearing date of November 18, 2004, received by the city clerk November 15, 2004. Moe: Second. Borup: Motion and second. All in favor. Any opposed? MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Item 5: Continued Public Hearing from September 16, 2004: PFP 04-007 Request for Preliminary Final Plat approval for 4 building lots on 1.6 acres in a R-4 zone for Woodward Estates Subdivision by Eagleson Place, LLC - southwest corner of South Crestwood Drive and West 1ih Street: Borup: Okay. We'd like to continue and go into public hearings. Maybe just a couple things I might mention, even though we do have a fairly small crowd here tonight, just a little bit on procedural orders. On a Public Hearing the -- we ask the staff to give a presentation on the project to start with, then, the applicant will have an opportunity to discuss the project any further, and also maybe a chance for Commissioners to ask some questions, after which the time will be allowed for any public testimony at all. We usually try to do those who may be opposed to have opportunity first and, then, others to follow. After public testimony, the applicant will have a final opportunity to either answer any questions or give any rebuttal that they may have. I don't anticipate we are going to have a big problem here tonight. We do have a timer. Sometimes we find that necessary to keep the meeting moving along on schedule and we -- the Commissioners can allow extra time if there is some information they feel that they would like to ask