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Meridian Planning & Zoning
October 21. 2004
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Item 6:
Public Hearing: CUP 04-038 Request for a coffee shop with a drive-thru
window in a C-C zone for EI Dorado Subdivision, Lot 6, Block 5 by
W.H. Moore Company - north west corner of East Overland Road and
Bonito Way and west of South Eagle Road:
Borup: Okay. They will be notified -- is the applicant here tonight? Okay. So, you
have got notice? Okay. Next item is CUP 04-038, it's a request for a coffee shop with a
drive-thru window in a C-C zone for EI Dorado Subdivision by W.H. Moore. I'd like to
open this hearing and start with the staff report.
Hood: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission. We have a Conditional Use
Permit for a drive-thru coffee shop, with a 1,281 square foot tenant space and an
18,855 square foot building in the C-C zone. The proposed coffee shop, again, is within
an existing building and the building permit was issued earlier this year. It is within EI
Dorado Subdivision, which was platted as Bonito Subdivision. This is Lot 6, Block 5.
It's located on the southeast corner of Overland Road and Bonito Way, about two-thirds
of a mile to the west of Eagle Road. Here is the aerial view. To the north are some
single-family homes, zoned R-1 in Ada County. To the south and east are properties
zoned C-C, which you could see on the previous slide. Everything in the pink is the
Community Commercial and everything that is red is the General Commercial zone.
And, then, to the west is a retail commercial building, again, zoned CoG. Here is the
proposed site plan. Actually, the proposed site plan was the approved site plan for the
building permit, certificate of zoning compliance, for that building and the subject CUP is
for a drive-thru on the eastern end of this building in this location, this tenant space
here. The drive-thru is this aisle here. Noted in the staff report is this seven-foot wide
island median separating the main entrance into this portion of the development. Here
is a public street, Bonito Way, this is the main entrance into EI Dorado Subdivision.
And, then, a driveway off of Overland Road, two-way driveway: People coming to this
drive-thru will either have to go around the building this way or come in the main street
and around thedrive-thru, run south to north. So, traffic patterns will be this direction.
In the staff report I did request that the Commission and Council require signage in this
approximate location to do just that, tell vehicles that are coming into the development
you have to go around, do not enter, wrong way, something to that effect, in this
location. The only other condition of note is within this seven foot wide island, extruded
curbing, is that something should probably be placed within that island, whether it be
greenery, landscaping, or just some decorative, ornamental -- I'll leave that up to you, if
you want to get more specific. As far as the planning department, we didn't really have
any specifics that we'd like to see. It doesn't necessarily have to be green. Again, this
is already existing, running irrigation lines, and things like that to irrigate something
that's organic may not be -- it's feasible, I guess, but it may not be real practical. So,
just something, I guess, in that island to keep someone from either running over it or
just acknowledging that it's there and running into it and not seeing it. Again, there was
a letter received by the applicant. That was their only concern, I guess, as well as
putting any live landscaping, low lying shrubs or trees within that planter, having a
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concern with extending irrigation. With that, I will stand for any questions you may
have.
Borup: Questions from any of the Commissioners? Would the applicant like to add
anything else?
Seal: Good evening. Jonathan Seal, W.H. Moore Company, 600 North Steelhead,
Boise, Idaho. We are in agreement with the staff report as far as the seven-foot island.
I think like Craig has mentioned, if we can do something other than landscaping, just
from the point that we have already paved it, would be a little bit difficult. If we simply
put some boulders or something in there or something to that effect, that would
acknowledge that it is an island, so you say someone doesn't run over it. I think with
that, then, I'd just ask -- and maybe the language in here be stricken as far as
landscaping and just put something visual that they can see, as I say, decorative
boulders or something to that effect. Other than that, we are in agreement with the staff
report.
Borup: Okay. Thank you. Do we need to get anymore specific on that? I think you can
have some nice looking design with boulders and --
Seal: Yes. I think you have seen the project, you know we don't--
Borup: Right.
Seal: -- don't spare, so -- okay. Thank you.
Borup: Any other questions from the Commission?
Zaremba: No.
Rohm: Just a comment that as long as you work with staff on -- to that end, I think that
that will suffice.
Seal: We would be glad to. Thank you.
Borup: Okay. Do we have anyone else here to testify on this application? Seeing
none, Commissioners?
Hood: Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission, it's actually referenced twice in the sight
specific conditions, on page five number two and also number five, condition number
five refers to the landscape plan. I did put it in both of those locations. So, if you're
going to modify one, I guess I would request that you modify both.
Zaremba: While you're making note, Mr. Chairman, I move the Public Hearing be
closed.
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Rohm: Second.
Borup: Motion and second to close the hearing. All in favor?
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Borup: Craig, staff's comfortable with that, some decorative -- some type of a
decorative design in there?
Hood: That's fine.
Borup: Non-vegetation?
Moe: It's already noted there. It says some type of visual feature, so that's fine.
Zaremba: Just clarify that it doesn't have to be green or living.
Borup: Yeah. You're correct. Number two could stay the way it is. So, maybe just five
is the only one that would need to be modified. Oh. It also says or. Okay.
Hood: The condition was really left open for vegetative or non-vegetative, so I don't
personally believe it needs to be modified, but if you so choose to modify it--
Moe: I happen to agree with you a hundred percent. So, noting that, Mr. Chairman, I
move that we forward to City Council recommending approval of CUP 04-038, to
include all staff comments, conditions of the staff memo dated -- or for the transmittal
date of October 15th, 2004, for the hearing date of October 21 st, 2004.
Rohm: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 7:
Continued Public Hearing from September 2, 2004: AZ 04-020
Request for Annexation and Zoning of 43.18 acres from RUT to R-8 zone
for proposed Bellingham Park Subdivision by. Gemstar Development,
LLC - east of South Locust Grove Road and south of East Victory Road:
Item 8:
Continued Public Hearing from September 2, 2004: PP 04..Q27
Request for Preliminary Plat approval for 164 single family residential
building lots and 13 common lots on 43.18 acres in a proposed R-8 zone
for proposed Bellingham Park Subdivision by Gemstar Development,
LLC - east of South Locust Grove Road and south of East Victory Road: