HomeMy WebLinkAbout2017-09-19Meridian City Council September 19, 2017.
A meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 6:00 p.m., Tuesday,
September 19, 2017, by Mayor Tammy de Weerd.
Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, Keith Bird, Joe Borton, Ty Palmer, Luke
Cavener, Genesis Milam and Anne Little Roberts.
Others Present: Bill Nary, C.Jay Coles, Caleb Hood, Jeff Brown, Joe Bongiorno, and
Jaycee Holman.
Item 1: Roll-call Attendance:
Roll call.
X__ Anne Little Roberts X _ _Joe Borton
X__ Ty Palmer X__ Keith Bird
__X___Genesis Milam __X__ Lucas Cavener
__X Mayor Tammy de Weerd
De Weerd: -- certainly to the high school students in the audience we hope you get extra
credit. For the record it is Tuesday, September 19th. It's 6:00 p.m. We will start with roll
call attendance, Mr. Clerk.
Item 2: Pledge of Allegiance
De Weerd: Item No. 2 is the Pledge of Allegiance. If you will all rise and join us in the
pledge to our flag.
(Pledge of Allegiance recited.)
Item 3: Community Invocation by Steve Moore with Ten Mile Christian
Church
De Weerd: Item 3 is our community invocation. Tonight we will be led by Pastor Steve
Moore with Ten Mile Christian Church. If you will all join us in the community invocation
or take this as an opportunity for a moment of reflection. Thank you so much, Pastor
Steve, for being here.
Moore: Honored to be here. Heavenly Father, we pause to -- to acknowledge your
presence. I forget that. That you're present. My life is sometimes so daily and I get
trapped by that. God, we acknowledge that you are -- you are the one who has blessed
us with such a great city and that we get to live here. I pray that you will use this city as
a light to the other cities in Idaho and even beyond that. God, I pray that tonight decisions
that are made will be just and fair and I pray for wisdom for these Council Members and
our Mayor that have to make decisions that affect people and sometimes on both sides
and -- and just give them wisdom to sort that all out. I pray that you would -- you would
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protect our first responders. We are grateful for them and that they just c ome to work
every day and they don't know what -- what could happen to them and they come with a
sense of trust and I pray, God, that -- that you would just honor their trust. Thank you,
God, for -- for just the fact that you are always looking out for us. We take that for granted.
I pray your blessings on this meeting in Jesus' name, amen.
Item 4: Adoption of the Agenda
De Weerd: Thank you. Item No. 4 is adoption of the agenda.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: On the Consent Agenda we got a couple of resolutions. W is number 17-2027. X
is 17-2028. And we had to add AB on the Consent and it's Movado Subdivision NMID
pathway easement. And, then, under community we have got Resolutions Nos. 17-2029,
17-2030, 17-2031, 17-2032 and 17-2033 and that's all appointing youth people to
commissions. And we have also under Solid Waste we got 17-2034 appointing Scott
Walters to Seat 1 on that. Impact fee we got -- appointing three seats and that proposed
resolution is 17-2035. Meridian Development Corporation appointment is the proposed
resolution number 17-2036. That’s appointing Dan Basalone and Dave Winder. And
under Department Reports we got a resolution under C, 17-2037. And under our
Ordinances we got an ordinance -- A is 17-1747. B is 17-1748. And C is 17-1749. And
with that I move that we approve the amended agenda. And I have never seen so many
resolutions and ordinances in my life.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda as read. All those in
favor say aye. All ayes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 5: Future Meeting Topics - Public Forum (Up to 30 Minutes Maximum)
De Weerd: Item 5. Mr. Clerk? Okay. There were no public members that signed up.
Item 6: Consent Agenda
A. Roundtree Subdivision Sanitary Sewer Easement #1
B. Roundtree Subdivision Sanitary Sewer Easement #2
C. Final Plat for Bainbridge Subdivision No. 6 (H-2017-0122)
Located ½ mile west of N. Ten Mile Road, south of W. Chinden
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Blvd by Brighton Investments, LLC
D. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Linder and Overland
Apartments (H-2017-0093) by Woff Enterprises II, LLC Located
south side of W. Overland Road, Approximately 1/4 Mile West
of S. Linder Road
E. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Blackstone
Subdivision No. 2 (H-2017-0091) by Blackstone Commons, LLC
Located 4700 W. Aspen Creek Street
F. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Burlingame
Subdivision (H-2017-0055) by Mason & Stanfield, Inc. Located
Near Northeast Corner of W. Cherry Lane and N. Black Cat
Road
G. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Summerwood
Subdivision (H-2017-0083) by WHPacific Inc., Located 4052
and 4202 W. Daphne Street
H. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Summerwood
Subdivision (H-2017-0084) by Bridgetower Investments, LLC
Located North Side of W. McMillan Road Between N. Black Cat
Road and N. Ten Mile Road
I. Final Order for 43 North Subdivision (H-2017-0119) by KGA
Development, LCC located at 1318 NE 4th Street in the NW 1/4
of Section 7, Township 3N, Range 1E
J. Final Order for TM Crossing Subdivision No. 2 (H-2017-0110)
by Brighton Investments, LLC Located North Side of Interstate
84, East of S. Ten Mile Road
K. Final Order for Verado Subdivision No. 2 (H-2017-0116) by
DevCo, LLC Located Southeast Corner of N. Locust Grove
Road and E. Ustick Road
L. Development Agreement for Rockbury Sub-H-2017-0018 with
Rockharbor Church (owner/developer) and Spurwing Greens
Master Association (Owner), located at 6437 N. Tree Haven
Way, in the SW 1/4 of Section 22, Township 4N., Range 1W
M. Development Agreement for Stor-IT Self Storage-H-2017-0071
with Stor-IT Self Storage, LLC located at 3735 N. Ten Mile Road
(Parcel#S0434417410) in the SE 1/4 of Section 34, Township
4N., Range 1W
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N. Addendum to Development Agreement for Goddard Creek-H-
2017-0007 with Gibson Family Revocable Living Trust (Owner)
and Brian Porter (Developer), located at 2780 W. McMillan
Road, in the southwest 1/4 of Section 26, Township 4 North,
Range 1West(Parcel#S0426347150). Amends original DA that
was recorded on January 2, 2003 (instrument#103012598)
O. Addendum E to September 24, 2013 Professional Services
Agreement between City of Meridian and Idaho Humane
Society for Animal Control Officer Services through
September 30, 2018, for an amount not to exceed $381,132.00
P. Professional Service Agreement with Stephanie Anderson for
Tabatha Anderson (a minor) for Traffic Box Community Art
Project for an amount not to exceed $50
Q. Acceptance Agreement for Display of Artwork in Initial Point
Gallery, Meridian City Hall between City of Meridian and Daniel
and Shirley Schoger
R. First Amendment to Subrecipient Agreement Between City of
Meridian and NeighborWorks Boise For PY 2016 Community
Development Block Grant Funds
S. First Amendment to Subrecipient Agreement Between City of
Meridian And Ada County Housing Authority For PY 2015
Community Development Block Grant Funds
T. First Amendment To Subrecipient Agreement Between City of
Meridian And Ada County Housing Authority For PY 2016
Community Development Block Grant Funds
U. Interagency Agreement with ACHD for: Water and Sewer
Construction on Pine Avenue Between Meridian Road and
Locust Grove Road
V. Cost Share Agreement with ACHD for Pine Avenue, Meridian
to Locust Grove Project
W. Resolution No. 17-2027: A Resolution Retiring and Transfer
Ownership of K9 Max
X. Resolution No. 17-2028: A Resolution Approving a Lease
Agreement Between the City of Meridian (Lessor) and New
Ventures Lab, Inc (Lessee) for the Premises Located at 33
East Idaho Avenue, Meridian Idaho; and Authorizing the Mayor
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and City Clerk to Execute and Attest Said Agreement
on Behalf of the City of Meridian; and Providing an Effective
Date.
Y. Building Lease for New Ventures Lab, Inc for 33 E. Idaho
Avenue, Meridian, Idaho
Z. Approval of Contract Amendment No. 2 to extend the contract
for “PolyAluminum Chloride” to Kemira Water Solutions in the
Not-To-Exceed amount of $60,000.00.
AA. AP Invoices for Payment - $2,128,570.66
AB. Amended onto agenda: Movado Subdivision NMID Pathway
Easement
De Weerd: Item 6 is our Consent Agenda.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: As stated earlier, we had two resolutions on there, 17-2027 and 17-2028, and with
that I -- and, then, we added an addition of an AB, the request for NMID pathway
easement. I move that we approve the amended Consent Agenda and for the Mayor to
sign and the Clerk to attest.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda. Mr. Clerk,
will you call roll.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 7: Items Moved From the Consent Agenda
De Weerd: There were no items moved from the Consent Agenda.
Item 8: Community Items/Presentations
A. Youth Commissioner Appointments
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Resolution No: 17-2029: Resolution Reappointing Victoriah
Madrigal as a Youth Commissioner to the Solid Waste Advisory
Committee.
Resolution No: 17-2030: Resolution Reappointing Ella Kramer as a
Youth Commissioner to the Historic Preservation Committee.
Resolution No: 17-2031: Resolution Appointing Britton Davis as a
Youth Commissioner to the Transportation Commission.
Resolution No: 17-2032: Resolution Reappointing Kayla McNay as
a Youth Commissioner to the Parks and Recreation Commission.
Resolution No: 17-2033: Resolution Appointing Randy-B Funk as a
Youth Commissioner to the Arts Commission.
De Weerd: So, we will move into our community items. Item 8-A is under our youth
commissioner appointments. The first one up is for Resolution 17-2029. It's reappointing
of Victoriah Mandeville -- where is she? I heard her giggle. And I will tell you what, she
has the best smile ever, so -- Council, I would ask for your -- I will first state -- and, then,
we will ask Victoriah to come up, but we have heard nothing but good things from SWAC
about our youth commission member and so I told her that we just cannot replace her .
So, I am bringing her in front of you for reappointment. Jodi and I did interviews last week
and a result of that is the list that you have in front of you tonight. So, I guess I will just
go through these one by one. If we could do them -- a motion after each one.
Milam: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Milam.
Milam: Victoriah has been wonderful on the SWAC commission. I'm delighted to know
that she's sticking around for another year. So, she's really involved and present and
participating in the meeting. So, I move that we approve Resolution No. 17 -2029,
reappointing Victoriah Madrigal as youth commissioner to the Solid Waste Advisory
Commission.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to a pprove this appointment. Mr. Clerk, will
you call roll.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Victoriah, would you like to come and tell us really how you say your last
name, but come on up in front. Because I think that both of us kind of just mutilated it.
Madrigal: Well, it's pronounced Madrigal. I couldn't say it myself as a kid. I used to think
it was Magical, but -- I just want to thank you all for reappointing me. The people I work
with are some of the loveliest people I know and I couldn't be happier to be working with
them again and to see what great things we do this year.
De Weerd: Well, we are excited to have you continue to serve. Victoriah is just a
sophomore and so we hope to see amazing things over this year and the years to come.
So, thank you for your continued interest.
Madrigal: Thank you.
Cavener: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Cavener.
Cavener: I just want to share -- in the four years that I have been on the Council I have
never had somebody from the commission seek me out to make sure I was supportive of
a youth commissioner returning and this was the first time. So, clearly you have made a
great impact on the commission.
De Weerd: Thank you. The next resolution 17-2030 is reappointing Ella Kramer as the
youth commissioner to the Historical Preservation Commission. Ella is also here in the
audience and Ella has a passion for history and getting others as excited as she is about
the history of Meridian and why we should care. So, Council, I would entertain any
questions. If not, I would entertain a motion.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve Resolution 17-2030 reappointing Ella Kramer as youth
commissioner to the Historic Preservation Committee.
Cavener: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Resolution 17-2030. Mr. Clerk, will
you call roll.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
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De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Ella, would you like to come up and say a few words? I think you also have
a look alike in the audience, too. Must be our sister.
Kramer: Yeah. I'm so excited for this year and to really make a difference and help
people as much as I can.
De Weerd: Well, thank you for joining us and for your family for attending as well. We
appreciate your service and, again, we have been really fortunate with these two that I
just appointed that they continue to have an interest, because they have served with great
enthusiasm and interest in the topics that they are being appoint for. So, thank you, Ella.
De Weerd: Okay. Resolution 17-2031 is an appointment for Britton Davis as the youth
commissioner to the Transportation Commission. Britton is also here. I will ask him to
speak in a moment, but, Council, I would entertain any questions.
Cavener: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Cavener.
Cavener: Unless there is any questions or comments, I would move that we would
approve Resolution 17-2031 appointing Britton Davis as the youth commissioner for the
Transportation Commission.
Milam: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Resolution 17-2031. Mr. Clerk, will
you call roll.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: I don't think I see Kayla. But Kayla is also a reappointment from the Parks
and Recreation Commission and Kayla has great energy -- oh, yeah. I'm sorry. Britton.
Would you like to say something? Please join us. Thank you, Mr. Cavener. Thank you
for being here tonight.
Davis: Hello, everyone. I am really grateful for this opportunity to serve the city in this
position. This is my first time and I can't be more eager to start or put my full effort into
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the city and the position which I have been given. Thank you.
De Weerd: Thank you, Britton. So, really, he was after one of your jobs, but I made him
settle for the Transportation Commission.
De Weerd: Okay. The next appointment is reappointing Kayla McNay as our youth
commissioner on the Parks and Recreation Commission. For those of you that went on
the parks tour, Kayla was on the tour and if you didn't notice she has great enthusiasm.
I think she was out swinging with Council Member Milam. But if you have any questions
I would entertain those. Hearing none, I would take a motion to approve.
Little Roberts: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mrs. Little Roberts.
Little Roberts: I move we approve the resolution reappointing Kayla McNay as the youth
commissioner for the Parks and Recreation Commission.
Cavener: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Resolution 17-2032. Mr. Clerk.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: The last of our youth commission appointments is Resolution 17-2033
appointing Randy-B Funk on our Meridian Arts Commission and I will tell you if you read
his resume -- the several pages of it -- you will see that this young man, while he is a
freshman, has accomplished more in his life than many have accomplished in their
entirety. So, we are thrilled to have Randy-B on the Arts Commission and I would stand
for any questions.
Milam: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Milam.
Milam: I move that we approve Resolution No. 17-2033 appointing Randy-B Funk as a
youth commissioner to the Arts Commission and happy to have him.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Resolution 17-2033. Mr. Clerk.
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Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Randy-B, would you like to say a few words? Thank you for joining us.
Funk: Hi. I'm Randy-B Funk. I'm so pleased and privileged to be able to have this
opportunity and I just can't wait to get started and put forth my full effort into the city,
because I absolutely love Meridian, so -- thank you.
De Weerd: Thank you. Well, I look forward to it as well, Randy-B, because, like I said,
when I started we already know what your -- you can do unprovoked, just imagine what
you're going to do on this commission. So, thank you for being here. And for your dad
as well.
B. Solid Waste Advisory Commission Reappointment
Resolution No. 17-2034: A resolution reappointing J. Scott Walters
to Seat 1 of the Meridian Solid Waste Advisory Commission.
De Weerd: Okay. Item 8-B is under our Solid Waste Advisory Commission. This is a
reappointment, Resolution 17-2034. Any questions?
Milam: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Milam.
Milam: I move that we approve Resolution No. 17-2034 reappointing J. Scott Walters to
Seat 1 of the Meridian Solid Waste Advisory Commission.
Cavener: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 8-B. If there is no discussion,
Mr. Clerk.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
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C. Impact Fee Advisory Committee Reappointments
Resolution No. 17-2035: A Resolution Reappointing David
Fulkerson to seat 1 of the Impact Fee Advisory Committee, Gene
Strate to seat 2 of the Impact Fee Advisory Committee and
Jonathan Wardle to seat 3 of the Impact Fee Committee.
De Weerd: 8-C is Resolution 17-2035. This is also a reappointment of our expiring seats
for the Impact Fee Advisory Committee and I would stand for any questions.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve Resolution No. 17-2035, reappointing Dave Fulkerson to
Seat 1, Gene Strate to Seat 2, Jon Wardle to Seat 3 of the Impact Fee Committee.
Milam: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 8 -C. If there is no discussion,
Mr. Clerk, will you call roll.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
D. Meridian Development Corporation Reappointments
Resolution No. 17-2036: A Resolution Reappointing Dan Basalone
to seat 9 of the Meridian Development Corporation and Dave
Winder to seat 4 of the Meridian Development Corporation.
De Weerd: Item 8-D is under the Meridian Development Corporation. These two are
also reappointments. Resolution 17-2036 reappointing these two individuals to the MDC.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we approve Resolution No. 17-2036 reappointing Dan Basalone to Seat 9
and Dave Winder to Seat 4 of the Meridian Development Corporation.
Milam: Second.
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De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 8-D. Mr. Clerk, will you call
roll.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: And I will tell our youth commission you don't have to stay the entire meeting.
You will have your opportunity to spend plenty of time sitting up here. So, thank you for
joining us and thank you to your family for your support and lending your -- your young
adult to serve the city in this capacity. So, thank you so much.
Item 9: Action Items
A. Public Hearing Continued from September 5, 2017 for Trust
Storage (H-2017-0082) by John Day Located Northeast Corner
of S. Locust Grove Road and E. Puffin Street
1. Request: Combined Preliminary / Final Plat Consisting of
Two (2) Building Lots on 9.28 Acres of Land in the C-C
(Community Business) Zoning District
2. Request: Conditional Use Permit for a Self -Service Storage
Facility in the C-C Zoning District
De Weerd: Okay. Item 9-A is a public hearing continued from September 5th for H-2017-
0082. I will ask for a staff comments at this time.
Hood: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. This item was continued from
your September 5th hearing. No testimony was taken during that meeting. The applicant
was out of town and so it was continued to tonight. This application is for a combined
preliminary/final plat and a conditional use permit. The site is approximately 9.28 acres,
zoned C-C. It's located at the northeast corner of South Locust Grove Road and East
Puffin Street. Generally near the southeast corner of Overland and Locust Grove as you
can see on the exhibits in front of you now. So, just to orient you a little bit more, to the
north would be a convenience store, car wash, gas station. To the south is an LDS
church. To the east is the Sagecrest Apartments and Mountain View High and, then,
across the street are single family residential across Locust Grove Road. Again, the
applicant has applied for a combined preliminary and final plat consisting of two building
lots. You can see those on the exhibits on the screen now and the conditional use permit
is for a self service storage facility. Lot 2, Block 1 -- the proposed Lot 2, Block 1, is the
self service storage facility lot consisting of 14 storage buildings. Here is a site plan.
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Excuse me. Including an attached office and the other lot is slated for development in the
future, so you can see across on the north side there -- sorry about that -- the future lot
for future development. The storage unit facility is subject to specific use standards as
set forth in UDC 11-4-3-34 and we have reviewed those for compliance in the staff report.
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission heard these items on July 20th and
August 3rd. Testifying in favor at the P&Z meeting was John Day, Kathy W lodarczyk,
Sharon Mandell, Rita Chatten and Glen Shell. They signed up as neutral, but testified in
favor. There was no one that testified in opposition. No comments -- no other comments
were taken during that time. We did receive some written testimony before P&Z from
Lisa Baird commenting on, essentially, wanting to see the private access road remain
open to get to Puffin, because it can be difficult to just use some of the other access points
out of the -- the C store lot and oil change facility. The key issues of discussion by the
Commission were the design of the structures and appropriate building materials.
Screening materials and the height of the screen wall. Landscaping along the perimeter
of the facility. Based on that the Commission did recommend some changes to the staff
report, so if you have the packet handy, beginning on page 17, Condition 1.1.4, the
Commission did strike bullet one and two, which talk -- talked about some modifications
to the landscape plan and so I do have the revised landscape plan in front of you that's
reflected in the updated staff report. The applicant has revised the landscape there, but
that condition was modified and, then, Condition 1.1.6, the Commission also modified to
coincide with the revised elevations that were submitted and some additional language
about compliance with the architectural standards manual. And, then, on page 18,
condition 1.1.7 was also modified, some of the sub bullets, one and three were removed
and they modified bullet number two to specify the screen wall along the perimeter of the
complex should be eight feet in height and designed to compl ement the design of the
facility. So, that was this project thus far. There were no additional comments in the
laserfishe that I see was submitted to the city in advance of this meeting since the
Planning and Zoning Commission. And with that report I would stand for any questions
you may have.
De Weerd: Thank you, Caleb. Council, any questions?
Bird: I have none at this time.
Little Roberts: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Little Roberts.
Little Roberts: Madam Mayor. Caleb, you mentioned that we had written testimony from
a Lisa Baird. Were her concerns addressed? Is the private access going to remain open
or do we know?
Hood: Madam Mayor, Council Members, I'm not -- I didn't see anything in the staff report
that -- that it made it sound like there was any intent to close that private access road, but
you may just get some clarification from the applicant that that will remain open.
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De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. And is the applicant here this evening? Would you like to
provide comment? Good evening. If you will, please, state your name and address for
the record.
Day: My name is John Day and I reside at 3501 North 32nd Street and that's Boise,
Idaho.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Day: If I may address that -- the comment regarding the access road. I assume she's
talking about the north-south access road -- correct. Yeah. That -- and that currently is
a cross-access easement that is in place. So, as this project stands right now it will remain
in place.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Do you have anything you want to add?
Day: You know, I really don't have anything more to add at this time. You know, I think
we our understanding and approval of the conditions that are put upon us. I think we
have worked with the staff and Mr. Parsons to meet all the requirements regarding
landscaping, the look of the building and so, you know, again, I think we understand the
conditions and -- and accept them as they are. So, I would stand for any questions you
may have at this point.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you, John. Any questions for the applicant?
Bird: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you.
Day: Thank you.
De Weerd: This is a public hearing. Is there anyone who wishes to provide testimony?
There were no members signing up. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to
comment? Okay. Council, any questions for the applicant or for staff? Okay. Hearing
none, do I have a motion to close the public hearing?
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we close the public hearing on H-2017-0082.
Borton: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing on Item 9 -A. All
those in favor say aye. All ayes.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we approve H-2017-0082 and to include all staff and applicant comment.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 9-A. Any discussion? Mr.
Clerk.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
B. Public Hearing Continued from September 5, 2017 for Twelve
Oaks Villas (H-2017-0111) by James L. Jewett Located 1845 W.
Franklin Road
1. Request: Short Plat Approval Consisting of Four (4)
Residential Building Lots and One (1) Common Lot on 7.99
Acres of Land in the C-C and TN-R Zoning Districts
De Weerd: Item 9-B is a public hearing continued also from September 5th for H-2017-
0111. It was continued for a specific reason on the elevations and I will see if staff has
any comments.
Hood: Madam Mayor, just a quick refresher. So, this is a short plat application that's
before you now, located on the south side of West Franklin Road, just west of Linder
Road. Mailing address is 1845 West Franklin Road. There are four building lots proposed
and one common lot on 7.99 acres of land in the C-C and TN-R zoning districts. As you
just mentioned, Madam Mayor, the project was continued. We had public comment
during that meeting questioning the rear elevation of the townhome units and so we
looked at the development agreement, if you recall during that meeting, pulled up the
exhibit in the development agreement. The applicant's representative that was here could
not clarify what was happening with those elevations, so that's why we are back here two
weeks later. I do see the applicant. Mr. Jewett is in the audience. Before he gets here,
though, just wanted to share with you those elevations that we looked at. A little bit
cleaner version of the scanned-in version that was in laserfishe. But here are the
elevations that were conceptually approved. I will draw your attention to -- these are the
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south elevations, so the rear of that, again, across that drain I believe are the subject of
the testimony from two weeks ago. These are high level windows. You have probably
seen those before. They let a lot of daylight in, but they are not at eye view. I asked
Sonya, who was working on this project, and I believe Mr. Jewett is prepared tonight to
kind of answer that question. I don't know how high high is, so I don't know exactly. It's
not dimensioned on either one of these in the conceptual elevations that are in the
development agreement or the elevations that we approved with the certificate of zoning
compliance towards -- when someone goes in for a building permit, basically. There is
not a dimension. So, I don't know what the -- from the finish floor to the bottom -- or the
top of that window what that dimension is, but you can -- that was testimony anyways that
these are -- these would be the higher windows and now just at a regular height. I will
also just point out on those -- those bedrooms that are back there, the windows -- the side
elevations are the larger kind more typical standard potential egress window, if you would,
in case of an emergency and you need to get on the roof or whatever, that one would be
easier to -- to get on. I don't know if it actually opens or n ot, but just, again, a reference
point for where that sits in the floor plan, the side elevations have those kind of more
traditional windows. So, it is just -- I will reiterate, though, it is a short plat. The elevations
have been through the public hearing process. Did that -- we looked at the minutes and
the summary for the -- both the development agreement and the conditional use permit
for the multi-family that's also on this site, but not part of the topic tonight. These went
through a conditional use permit hearing. That was not discussed previously at those --
at those meetings that the applicant submitted and, again, what's on record with the city.
So, with that information I would stand for any additional questions you may have.
De Weerd: Thank you, Caleb. Jim, would you like to -- to make comment? Thank you
for joining us. If you will, please, state your name and address for the record.
Jewett: Jim Jewett. 354 Colchester in Eagle, Idaho.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Jewett: And, first of all, I apologize for not being here last time. I normally always attend,
but I double checked several times and seeing no issues I decided to do a different
meeting that night. So, I --
De Weerd: That's Murphy's Law.
Jewett: I know. So -- and I don't know exactly which resident had the question, but in
that time frame that you mentioned in the -- the e-mail I got from staff, we did meet with
the neighbors, they did have concern about me going from a single level to a two story
against their -- their north boundary, my south boundary. So, I did agree to have no rear
facing windows. When I spoke with staff they said, well, we still architecturally need to
have something, so we came up with the high windows for light only, with the egress and
openable windows facing the side that's what it showed. I did e-mail Caleb just now a
picture -- an internal picture -- if you can pull it up, Caleb, and show it. And it gives you
the illustration of how high it is from an inside view. So, I just sent it to Sonya, but she
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must have left before she got it, but --
Hood: Madam Mayor, it may take me a while, because I'm not actually logged here, so I
have got to log into the system and restart that up and so it will probably be a couple few
minutes before I have access to e-mail. So, I'm sorry, but -- I will do that, but it will
probably be a few minutes.
Jewett: Illustrating -- it's usually about six foot to the bottom of that window and it's just
the window you see that -- put that a lot now in homes that they have above bedroom --
the doors are above there. They have high windows just for light.
De Weerd: I think the whole intent was we -- we knew that you had made a commitment
to the neighbors, we wanted to make sure that that was captured and -- and so I would
ask Council if you have any questions.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Jim, on the floor, you're talking -- you say they are going to be above a six foot eight
header for the door? It's going to be above six foot eight?
Jewett: Somewhere --
Bird: The bottom of it.
Jewett: The bottom would be somewhere between the six foot and a six foot eight. So,
like from my height to the bottom of the door, somewhere in that height range to the
bottom of the window.
Bird: Yeah. Because doors are six eight, so --
Jewett: Yeah.
Bird: -- and if you're going above that -- and I -- and I hope you understand why the
neighbors don't want some 36 inch windows down there --
Jewett: Oh.
Bird: -- looking down on them and stuff and -- and the reason that, you know, under --
under the elevations we had for the DA and stuff showed those and legally, you know,
you got to put them in, but you had told them then and so I appreciate this, as long as we
keep it down to -- not like that, but like the one on the left. Yeah.
Jewett: The one on the left is exactly it.
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Bird: Okay. I think the -- I think the neighbors could live with that, because we don't plan
-- we don't find too many seven footers around here.
Jewett: So -- and, again, I apologize I wasn't here to clarify it then and that everybody
had to come back. The neighbors.
Bird: I understand.
De Weerd: Okay. Any further questions from Council?
Bird: Madam Mayor, I do have another question.
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Bird.
Bird: In this -- I think Joe can probably -- in on this. What are we -- if these are in
bedrooms, Jim, what is the -- how do we get the --
De Weerd: Egress or ingress?
Bird: Or egress -- egress.
Jewett: It would be the window to the right, which would be the --
Bird: Okay. It would be on the side. On the side. Okay. I understand. Thank you.
De Weerd: Okay. Any other questions? Okay. Thank you.
Jewett: Thanks.
De Weerd: Council, I know you continued this specifically for the elevations. If there are
any comments --
Bird: Anybody else?
De Weerd: Sir. Good evening. If you will state your name and address for the record.
Thompson: I'm Doug Thompson. 1846 West Greenhead.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Thompson: My yard backs up against Ten Mile Creek, which is the south side of where
he is. I have here a letter from another resident that wasn't able to be here tonight that
-- comments that he had agreed to move those windows completely, not to shorten them,
not to change them, but to move them to the side of the building. That was the agreement
he made with those of us that were at that meeting. Now, if he's got to change that, it
would seem logical that he should come back to us, if he's trying to be in compliance with
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something or if there is some design reason that those windows have to be there, that he
should come back to us and that there should be some agreement between us. As this
now stands he's got something passed through and has received approval on a -- on
something where he told the neighbors he was going to do one thing and, then, to be in
compliance did another thing, so he's telling you one story, he's telling us a different story,
he's telling you he's got agreement from the neighbors and he doesn’t have that for what
he's proposing and what has been approved. I don't know. There has been so many
changes on this property already, I feel like we have been sucked in as a neighborhood.
We were presented a plan, it was altered, we agreed to that plan, it was altered again,
we said, okay, we will agree to that. It's altered again. We said okay. Move the windows.
He says we will move the windows. He comes to you guys and gets something else
totally approved that we just hadn't even seen before. We met with him the 26th of July.
He promised us he would move those windows. As I understand it from the last meeting,
these elevations were submitted to you all in September of last year. He had plenty of
time to get back in touch with us before submitting those for approval. So, I don't know.
I have mixed feelings about what it is and where everybody is in this thing. I don't agree
with it personally.
Palmer: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Palmer.
Palmer: And, sir, what was your address again?
Thompson: 1846 West Greenhead.
De Weerd: And your -- your main concern was you didn't want people looking down into
your yard of these --
Thompson: Yeah. I --
De Weerd: -- high windows you know that unless they stand on a chair they are not going
to be looking down into your yard.
Thompson: If I am a pervert -- and I don't know who he is going to rent these places to
and they are obviously rentals. They are not designed for a family to move in and live
there for years. If I am a pervert and I'm a hundred feet away from a back yard, a pair of
binoculars or a spotting scope is nothing and to put that thing six feet high -- the bottom
of that window six foot high, it's a step ladder problem and he's talkin g about putting it in
the bedroom, so I'm standing on the bed looking out of a window with a pair of binoculars.
Now, you know, is he going to put fogged glass in there? What's he going to do? We
haven't talked about this with him. And so I don't know what the intent is, you know, if it's
a solid window and we are putting fogged glass in there that's not -- that you can't see
through, that's one thing. If it's just for light. If he's putting clear glass in there, then, I
have got a concern, you know. I have got neighbors that have young kids that may be
sunbathing in the backyard. I don't know who is going to live in those apartments and
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they are going to look right in my windows from those apartments. So, I -- you know, I
don't know. And everybody along that -- that whole ditch bank has got the same problem.
De Weerd: Okay.
Palmer: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Palmer.
Palmer: I want to ask you -- tell me about your house. Do you have any windows above
the first story on the back of your house?
Thompson: Well, no, I have got a 22 foot -- 24 foot ceiling in my living room, which has
an arched window that goes out the back of the house, but it's not technically part of the
second story. So, no, we don't have second story windows that look out.
Palmer: So, you have a much higher up window than just the first story?
Thompson: Oh, yes.
Palmer: Okay.
Thompson: Yeah. But I don't -- I don't see that as a problem, because if I'm -- if I had a
second story looking down at a house, whether that's a single story or two story, I can still
see right in those windows.
Cavener: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Cavener.
Cavener: Sir, you indicated that -- it sounds like you have met with the applicant on
multiple occasions. Can you just state --
Thompson: I have met with him twice -- three times I guess. Myself.
Cavener: Madam Mayor, follow up. And at each time that you met you said that he
brought a revised plan, is that --
Thompson: Yes.
Cavener: That's accurate?
Thompson: That is correct.
Cavener: Thank you.
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Thompson: And on the 26th we -- it was revised. These single dwellings -- single level
buildings were changed to -- what? Townhouse I guess. Two story townhouses. Which
I understand the reasoning for it and agreed with it. I understand all that. And so from a
management standpoint I don't have a problem with it, but I am concerned about those
windows and the privacy into the backyards of those of us that have been there for a long
time. You know. And on that occasion he did agree to those of us that were at the
meeting to -- to move the windows to the side.
Cavener: Thank you.
De Weerd: Okay. Any other questions? Thank you for coming.
Thompson: You bet. Thank you.
De Weerd: Okay. Any other testimony? Okay. Any follow up comments?
Jewett: Jim Jewett again for the record.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Jewett: Yes, we have met with the neighborhood on multiple occasions. I met with them
over at the Firehouse Pub and we had -- you know, a few beers and talked about the
pathway. We have talked so many things in coordinating with them. The bridge over the
Ten Mile Creek. And I don't recall exactly what meeting -- and I did agree to move the
windows to the side. I did. Staff had concerns about not -- having a blank wall from the
architectural purposes, so we came up with high windows. I don't recall if I took that plan
back to them. I don't recall if I thought it was significant enough. But to have them to be
frosted or somehow blocked out so that just a light and not -- I have no issue with that
and I would offer that as a -- as a resolution, so -- because I really want them to be happy
with what we have done and not to be disappointed in the process and so if that satisfies
the neighbors and if Council is okay with that, if I'm okay to amend my own plan to allow
all those to be fogged or somehow shaded so they are not see through.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
Jewett: To eliminate that concern.
De Weerd: Thank you, Jim. Mr. Bird.
Bird: What I'm hearing from you, Jim, is you're -- you're willing to -- on the back windows
to have the bottom of them no lower than six foot and you're going to put obscure glass
in every one of them.
Jewett: Correct.
Bird: Obscure glass will give you the light, but nobody can see out of it.
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Jewett: Correct.
Bird: It's called obscure glass.
De Weerd: I --
Bird: I think they are solid. Are they going to be sliders or fixed?
Jewett: We almost always do them as fixed.
Bird: Yeah.
Jewett: So, I see no objection to keeping them fixed.
Bird: That size they are not going to slide very good.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any additional questions?
Milam: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Milam.
Milam: I don't have a question. It's more of a -- just a comment. Jim, I think that you
have -- you have done a really fine job accommodating to make your neighbors happy. I
can't imagine, honestly, looking at that picture and the dimensions both architecturally
and from a living -- from a human point of view, not having windows there I think would
be cold and I think that this is a much better plan and so I'm glad that you were able to
come up with something that hopefully your neighbors will be happy. So, thank you.
De Weerd: Okay. Any further items from Council?
Bird: If not, Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I would move we close the public hearing on H-2017-0111.
Cavener: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing on this item. All
those in favor say aye. All ayes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
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De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we approve H-2017-0111 with staff and applicant comments on -- as of --
dated September 19th, 2017, and as the applicant stated, any windows in the back will
start at six foot and above and will have obscured glass in it and be fixed on second story.
Borton: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 9-B with the conditions as
stated. Any discussion by Council? Mr. Clerk.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 10: Department Reports
A. Verizon Small Cell Program Discussion Continued
De Weerd: Item 9-A is under department reports and this is a continued discussion on
the Verizon small cell program as was presented to Council earlier this month. Mr. Nary.
Nary: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. I think the intent was simply
to make sure we are okay moving forward in getting an agreement together. We have
reached out to Verizon, they sent us some other alternative agreements, but this is not a
cut and paste with ACHD. In reviewing the ACHD agreement it is very ACHD centric and
not really -- because where they are allowing those are in major arterial intersections and
not neighborhoods, not on light poles, they are all on mast arms of intersections. So, it's
very much geared to them. We have reached out with some questions to Verizon, but
the original discussion I thought last week was you were anticipating having an agreement
next week. I don't anticipate having anything with -- for at least a month, because we
have identified some issues internally that we need to get clarity from Verizon on how
these would work, how they would interact with other ones. We have to check with our
electrical provider that does all of our maintenance of our street lights and how would this
impact that ability to do that without having an issue with Verizon. So, there is a number
of things we have identified from Planning, Legal and mainly Public Works that we just
need some questions answered. So, it's probably going to take us a little bit. But we are
moving forward and, like I said, Verizon has been very cooperative in providing us with
some other alternative agreements they have had in other cities, so that we can take the
best of what other folks have done and, then, put that into an agreement that's very
Meridian oriented and not necessarily, like I said, some of the other ones that we have
seen. Boise City just passed one as well. There is a review fee that -- they didn't bring
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that up last week. But the ACHD actually charges a review fee to review the application,
as well as their annual fee is 750 dollars a light, not a hundred. So, there is going to be,
obviously, some discussion that will probably come back to you for more decision with
Verizon, but we want to get most of the technical things out of the way first, so -- I just
want to let you know that's kind of where we are in a week, so --
Bird: Thank you.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any comment or any suggestion on anything else they need
to be looking at?
Milam: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Milam.
Milam: I’m personally not a fan of this agreement at all. So, I believe there is more risk
than gain for the city. We don't have a -- from what -- the people that I have talked to,
including our first responders, reception in the city is not an issue, so they are using that
as their big sales pitch, you know, why we would want to do this, because it will help their
reception and I have been told their reception is just fine, there isn't a problem. I mean
when we get into people's neighborhoods, kind of a like the Costco issue, it -- we might
end up with a lot of people that don't really want it in their backyard and I think it's an okay
idea, but not -- not in my backyard, you know, who is -- the problems that it can cause,
the injuries, the -- the harm to our equipment, I think for 200 dollars a year it's ridiculous.
Or a hundred dollars a year it's not worth the risk. That's my opinion.
Palmer: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Palmer.
Palmer: Madam Mayor, being somewhat concerned about the NIMBY situation, I posted
a -- I mean, obviously, this is far from scientific, but I posted on my Facebook, you know,
the idea and even an image, you know, similar to the ones that they are presenting and
asked what people thought and it was resoundingly -- all the comments were absolutely
in favor of it. I spoke with a few other HOA board members, not really from my board, but
others in the area, and they seem super excited about it and people were begging to have
it in their backyard. I have a light pole that the city owns across the street from me that's
at an angle, so -- I mean we -- I'd much rather have a straight light pole with a cell tower
on it, than an angled light pole and so I -- the people that I heard from were all in favor of
it. I was waiting for somebody to -- to come up with something to have a reason against
it, other than the -- you know, and the reasons -- the possibilities you had mentioned. All
I heard was good things.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
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Bird: I will ask you two first responders. With our opticom this cell tower isn't going to
mess with the lights at all. I mean when you hit the opticom the lights change for you;
right?
Bongiorno: Unfortunately, Council Member, I -- I don't know anything about this project.
No one has brought it to my attention. So, I would have a concern --
Bird: Just asking a question. When you guys get to a -- and I know the police do -- you
hit -- isn't it opticom they call it?
Bongiorno: Correct. Opticom.
Bird: You hit that. The light changes green for you; right?
Bongiorno: Correct.
Bird: How is a cell tower going to interfere with that?
Bongiorno: Depending on the direction and the angle of the opticom emitter hitting the
item up on the pole and that's why I don't know what these items look like, if it would
interfere with that signal or not.
Bird: Lieutenant, you got --
Brown: Mr. Bird, I do not know how that would affect the --
Bird: I mean the cell towers could be set so that they didn’t interfere with the opticom.
We don't want to interfere with the Opticom.
De W eerd: Well, certainly that is a question that we can add to our list that we can
research and make sure that there is no -- no interference.
Cavener: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Cavener.
Cavener: I'm hearing I think good feedback from Council Woman Milam and Council
Member Palmer. But I guess the question would be for either you, Madam Mayor, or for
Bill, is it contemplated that once the agreement is in its final form that we would have a
public hearing for the public to provide feedback? As muc h as I -- I value social media
comments and information that we have picked up along the way, hearing from our
citizens on this and how we are going to use their resources to me seems like the ideal
step.
De Weerd: And I think that's an excellent idea. Once we have something that the public
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can look at and so that's the -- the first step is to -- to have an agreement so that people
can make comment on. So, good point. Anything further from Council?
Hood: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Oh. I'm sorry, I was just thinking, okay, where did that voice just come from.
I know it wasn't God, but thank you. Caleb.
Hood: So, I just wanted to point out there -- I think all of you kind of touched on it with
public hearings and not in my backyard and things like that. One of the -- the topics I
think -- it was discussed last week when Verizon was here. One of the concerns I have
is that process to not -- they are going to tell you where they need one, but when they
decide where it needs -- the look and feel of that, who gets to determine that and I guess
one of the things I would initially put out there for you to just consider as we continue to
work towards drafting this agreement is did we come up with a design or two or three that
we like decide, they are going to tell you where they need one, but when they decide what
needs the look and feel of that, who gets to determine that and I guess one of the things
I would initially put out there for you to just consider as we continue to work towards
drafting this agreement and did we come up with a design or two or three that we like and
we say in residential districts it's going to be A or B. That's it. We aren't going to
customize these to look like pine trees or clock towers and it's a ca se-by-case, but -- but
through the public involvement process the public gets to participate and say, okay, if one
of these goes in here is what it's going to look like and everybody understands if these go
in this is what they are going to look like. I guess my concern is me mediating between
an HOA and a cell company and they say we need this and the HOA says we want it to
look like this and who gets to decide that. So, the aesthetics part of that I think does need
to be daylighted with the public to some -- and I don't know what that looks like, I'm just
concerned about doing 40 or 80 or a hundred of these with one carrier and, then, we got
two or there or four others and I am at meetings with all of them trying to figure out what's
appropriate and not. So, if we could just, again, come -- my two cents would be I would
like to see us come up with a design or two that you all like based on public input that
says where ever they go they are going to look like this and that and they are going to be
able to hold two different carriers and -- whatever. Well, specs basically. A spec sheet
for saying this is -- if you want to build these in Meridian here is what they got to look like
and we can give it to anybody that comes and we say this is what our small cell towers
look like. So, that was the biggest point I think I had and to figure out how that works with
our current code and are these -- are they just administratively approved? Does staff just
approve them over the counter or do we want to put them through a conditional use permit
process or something else to have a little bit more input from neighbors . Again, just
questions that I have. I don't have answers, just some questions, so -- anyways, just
wanted to put that out there.
Milam: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Caleb, I think those are -- are great points and when Verizon was here they
did show a couple different styles that I do believe that the city should have a standard. I
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guess in the research I would hope that that standard can be universal and not changed
by the carrier, that it's -- it's something that all carriers could use that same design. I
would also ask that you maybe bring back recommendations on the approach if they are
adding the cell towers that they do have a comprehensive plan on what they are originally
submitting and maybe a window -- this particular carrier suggested 40 to begin with and
up to 80 in total after three years and so what -- what that would look like. Then the public
has something that they can come and comment on if they know where those locations
are. So, that -- that would be my suggestion. Mrs. Milam.
Milam: That reminded me of -- Madam Mayor -- one of the other issues that I have is
staff time. How much staff time are we going to put into this? Is this going to end up
costing us more than the proceeds. So, my proposal is for 2,000 dollars per pole it makes
sense.
De Weerd: Well, I think right now staff is researching it. ACHD is -- as Mr. Nary stated
was a 500 dollar application with 750 dollar a year per pole fee. So, I guess staff would
come back with a recommendation for Council to discuss. Certainly what they found in
reading the agreement with ACHD is that the monthly fee was larger than was kind of
inferred during the comments. So -- if there is nothing further, if you think of anything,
please, share that with -- with Mr. Nary and we can assemble all the questions and bring
back something that we can further discuss.
B. Joint Powers Agreement for the Coordinated and Cooperative
Provision of Emergency Medical Services in Ada County (EMS
JPA) Annual Renewal
De Weerd: Okay. Item 10-C -- or, I'm sorry, 10-B is the Joint Powers agreement for the
EMS JPA. This is something that is just an annual renewal. I know the chief has kept
you up to date as victories are made on this and it's -- it's just to renew that agreement
for another year. And this is separate than the fire JPA that was talked about earlier this
year and I know the chief is -- is planning on coming back to give an update to Council on
where we are at with this. So, Council, I would entertain any questions. If there are none,
I would entertain a motion.
Cavener: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Cavener.
Cavener: I move we approve the Joint Powers Agreem ent for coordinating cooperative
provision of emergency medical services in Ada county for the EMS JPA annual renewal.
Milam: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 10-B. If there is no discussion,
Mr. Clerk.
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Bird: Madam Mayor, just --
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Would the motion maker also -- we have got a letter there for the Mayor to sign --
to include that in his motion for the Mayor to sign and the Clerk to attest.
Cavener: Madam Mayor -- thank you, Council Member Bird. The maker of the motion
would agree the letter to be signed by the Mayor and for the Clerk to attest.
Milam: Second agrees.
De Weerd: Okay. Mr. Clerk.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
C. Resolution No. 17-2037: A Resolution Adopting the Fiscal Year
2018 Citywide Fee Schedule, Including the Fiscal Year 2018
Rate Schedule of Solid Waste Collection Services;
Superseding all Previously Adopted Fees, with the Exception
of Recreational Programing Fees; Authorizing City
Departments to Collect Such Fees; and Providing an Effective
ate.
De Weerd: Item 10-C is Resolution 17-2037. Council, any items regarding this item?
Any questions regarding this item.
Palmer: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Palmer.
Palmer: Somehow my eyes totally skipped this when I was reading through the agenda.
Darn it. When it was first discussed I had pulled it up and there were a few things that
were -- that didn't make sense, unless I just didn't understand them. Where it was talking
about some building permits or -- that were like 64 dollars per square foot and -- now I'm
trying to pull it up.
Nary: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Nary.
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Nary: Madam Mayor. So, if I recall, Council Member Palmer, there is some of them that
are listed on there that are for patio covers, additions to homes, and they are based on
the square footage and what they do is that tells the value of the project . Then the cost
of the permit is 50 dollars plus every thousand dollars of value has a cost. So, it's not --
like the example we talked about was the 16 dollar per square foot for the patio cover .
So, if you build a hundred square foot patio cover, are you paying 1,600 dollars? You're
not. You're paying -- you're paying the value of 50 dollars plus the thousand rounded up
to the next thousand. So, if that was a 1,600 dollar value patio cover, you would pay 50
dollars, plus the 2,000 a square foot value of that. So, I sent out an e-mail with a memo
attached to that planning provided -- and if you give me a second I can pull that up.
Palmer: Madam Mayor, that was the most governed explanation of something I ha ve
ever heard.
Nary: Of course. Of course it is.
De Weerd: It's from the attorney. Of course. Can you say that in English?
Nary: Sure. So, all of our building -- yeah. It is correct. All of our building permits are
based on the value of the construction.
Palmer: Okay.
Nary: And so that's how they determine what the value is. So, there is a -- there is,
basically, a -- like for this one, for example, a 1,300 square foot house, $94.06 is how the
value of the house -- addition of the house is valued. So, you take that number, it's 50
dollars, plus 150 times 550. So, the building permit for a house that's 1,350 square feet
with a 600 square foot garage, the building permit is 875 bucks. So, it's all based on
value. So, that's what was maybe misleading in that. It was trying to establish the fees
for the value in there, so it wasn't the fee that you pay. It's correct.
Palmer: Madam Mayor, as long as it's right I'm good and wasn't --
Nary: It is.
Palmer: -- 1,600 dollars for a one hundred square foot patio cover. Sounds good.
Bird: If you want to pay that I will take it.
Milam: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Milam.
Milam: I move that we approve Resolution No. 17-2037.
Palmer: Second.
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De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 10-C. Any discussion? Mr.
Clerk.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 11: Ordinances
A. Ordinance No. 17-1747: An Ordinance (Rockbury Subdivision
H-2017-0018) of the City of Meridian granting re- zoning of a
Parcels of Land situated in the Southeast ¼ and the Southwest
¼ of Section 22, Township 4 North, Range 1 West, Boise, Ada
County, Idaho, As Described in Attachment “A”; Establishing
and Determining the Land Use Zoning Classification of Said
Lands from R-15 (Medium High Density Residential
District)(8.95 acres) and C-N (Neighborhood Business
District)(16.11 acres) to R-15 (Medium High Density Residential
District)(6.71 acres) and C-N (Neighborhood Business
District)(18.38 acres)in the Meridian City Code; Providing that
Copies of this Ordinance Shall be Filed with the Ada County
Assessor, the Ada County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax
Commission, as Required by Law; and Providing for a
Summary of the Ordinance; and Providing for a Waiver of the
Reading Rules; and Providing for An Effective Date.
De Weerd: Now comes the most exciting part of our agenda. The reading of the
ordinances. 11-A is Ordinance 17-1747. Mr. Clerk, will you, please, read this by title.
Coles: Thank you, Madam Mayor. City of Meridian Ordinance No. 17-1747: An
Ordinance, Rockbury Subdivision, file H-2017-0018, of the City of Meridian, granting re-
zoning of parcels of land situated in the southeast ¼ and the southwest ¼ of Section 22,
Township 4 North, Range 1 West, Boise, Ada county, Idaho, as described in Attachment
“A”; establishing and determining the land use zoning classification of said
lands from R-15 (Medium High Density Residential District)(8.95 acres) and C-N
(Neighborhood Business District)(16.11 acres) to R-15 (Medium High Density Residential
District)(6.71 acres) and C-N (Neighborhood Business District)(18.38 acres) in the
Meridian City Code; providing that copies of this ordinance shall be filed with the Ada
County Assessor, the Ada County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax Commission, as
required by law; and providing for a summary of the ordinance; and providing for a
waiver of the reading rules; and providing for an effective date.
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De Weerd: You have heard this item read by title. Is there anyone who would like to hear
it read in its entirety?
Milam: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Milam.
Milam: Seeing none, I propose -- I move that we approve Ordinance No. 17 -1747 with
suspension of rules.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 11-A. If there is no discussion,
Mr. Clerk, will you call roll.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
B. Ordinance No. 17-1748: An Ordinance (Stor-It Self Storage H-
2017-0071) of the City of Meridian granting annexation and
zoning of a Parcel of Land situated in a Portion of the North ½
of the Southeast ¼ of Section 34, Township 4 North, Range 1
West, Boise, Ada County, Idaho, As Described in Attachment
“A” and Annexing Certain Lands and Territory, Situated in Ada
County, Idaho, and Adjacent and Contiguous to the Corporate
Limits of the City of Meridian as requested by the City of
Meridian; Establishing and Determining the Land Use Zoning
Classification of Said Lands from RUT to I-L (Light Industrial
District) in the Meridian City Code; Providing that Copies of
this Ordinance Shall be Filed with the Ada County Assessor,
the Ada County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax
Commission, as Required by Law; and Providing for a
Summary of the Ordinance; and Providing for a Waiver of the
Reading Rules; and Providing for An Effective Date.
De Weerd: 11-B is Ordinance 17-1748. Mr. Clerk.
Coles: Thank you, Madam Mayor. City of Meridian Ordinance No. 17-1748: an
Ordinance, Stor-It Self Storage, file number H-2017-0071, of the City of Meridian granting
annexation and zoning of a parcel of land situated in a portion of the north ½ of the
southeast ¼ of Section 34, Township 4 North, Range 1 West, Boise, Ada county, Idaho,
as described in Attachment “A” and annexing certain lands and territory, situated in Ada
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County, Idaho, and adjacent and contiguous to the corporate limits of the City of Meridian
as requested by the City of Meridian; establishing and determining the land use zoning
classification of said lands from RUT to I-L (Light Industrial District) in the Meridian City
Code; providing that copies of this ordinance shall be filed with the Ada County Assessor,
the Ada County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax Commission, as
required by law; and providing for a summary of the ordinance; and providing for a waiver
of the reading rules; and providing for an effective date.
De Weerd: You have heard 11-B read by title. I don't see anyone wanting to hear it read
in its entirety. So, Council, I would entertain a motion.
Milam: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Milam.
Milam: I move that we approve Ordinance No. 17-1748 with suspension of rules.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 11 -B. Mr. Clerk, will you call
roll.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
C. Ordinance No. 17-1749: An Ordinance (Goddard Creek H-2017-
0007) of the City of Meridian granting rezoning of a Parcel of
Land Situated in the SE ¼ of the SW ¼ of Section 26,
Township 4 North, Range 1 West, Boise, Ada County, Idaho,
As Described in Attachment “A” and Annexing Certain Lands
and Territory, Situated in Ada County, Idaho; Establishing and
Determining the Land Use Zoning Classification of Said Lands
from R-4 (Medium Low Density Residential District) to C-C
(Community Business District) in the Meridian City Code;
Providing that Copies of this Ordinance Shall be Filed with the
Ada County Assessor, the Ada County Recorder, and the
Idaho State Tax Commission, as Required by Law; and
Providing for a Summary of the Ordinance; and Providing for a
Waiver of the Reading Rules; and Providing for An Effective
Date.
De Weerd: 11-C is Ordinance 17-1749. Mr. Clerk.
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Coles: Thank you, Madam Mayor. City of Meridian Ordinance No. 17-1749: An
Ordinance, Goddard Creek, H-2017-0007, of the City of Meridian granting rezoning of a
parcel of land situated in the SE ¼ of the SW ¼ of Section 26, Township 4 North, Range
1 West, Boise, Ada county, Idaho, as described in Attachment “A” and annexing certain
lands and territory situated in Ada county, Idaho; establishing and determining the land
use zoning classification of said lands from R-4 (Medium Low Density Residential District)
to C-C (Community Business District) in the Meridian City Code; providing that copies of
this ordinance shall be filed with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada County Recorder,
and the Idaho State Tax Commission, as required by law; and providing for a summary
of the ordinance; and providing for a waiver of the reading rules; and providing for an
effective date.
De Weerd: Council, do I have a motion?
Milam: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Milam.
Milam: I move that we approve Ordinance No. 17-1749 with suspension of rules.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 11 -C. Mr. Clerk, will you call
roll.
Roll call: Bird, yea; Borton, yea; Milam, yea; Cavener, yea; Palmer, yea; Little Roberts,
yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 12: Future Meeting Topics
De Weerd: Council, under Item 12 we do have a couple of upcoming items and events.
On Wednesday, tomorrow, we have our candidate forum at Meridian High School starting
at 6:30. Meridian Business Day is this Friday from 8:00 to 1:00 right here at City Hall.
So, parking will be complicated. Treasure Valley Youth Safety Summit is also on Friday,
September 22nd, from 7:30 to 2:30 at Yahoos. The Mayor's Senior Advisory Board is
doing -- in partnership with the Fire Department -- CPR training on Saturday, September
23rd from 9:00 to 11:00 at the public safety training center and a week from today is the
Recovery Day Breakfast providing a good program with the Meridian Anti-Drug Coalition
and that begins at 7:30 a.m. at the Meridian Police Department. Anything further under
this item?
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Little Roberts: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Little Roberts.
Little Roberts: For anyone that was planning on going to the AmeriBen/IEC grand
opening, they have planned on rescheduling it. They decided that the weather report was
not conducive to having an outside event.
De Weerd: And it looks like it will be sometime the first or second week of October. So,
we will get that out to you when it is scheduled. So, thank you for bringing that up. And
to the students that have managed to stay through the reading of the ordinances, I have
a City of Meridian pin for you and with that I will ask for a motion to adjourn.
Milam: So moved.
Bird: So moved.
De Weerd: All those in favor say aye. All ayes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 7:09 P.M.
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