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Home My WebLink AboutUstick Baptist ChurchCITY A R M S T R O N G A R C H I T E C T S 404 S. 8TH ST, SUITE 300 • BOISE, ID 83702 • 8TH ST. MARKET PLACE • (208) 389-1200 February 8, 1995 Mr. Will Berg, Jr. Meridian City Clerk 33 E. Idaho Avenue Meridian ID 83642 Dear Mr. Berg: On behalf of the Ustick Baptist Church in Boise, I am writing to request that the church be allowed to negotiate with Boise City for sewer and water services for the ten -acre vacant site the church owns on the south side of McMillan Road, one-quarter mile west of the Eagle Road intersection. I have attached a vicinity map showing the location of the property for your information. Please note that the parcel is in Meridian's Area of Impact, but Boise City's Area of Impact touches the church's east property line. On February 7th I met with your Fire Marshall, Skip Voss, and Public Works Director, Gary Smith. We discussed the fact that Boise City sewer and water services are closer to the project site than the same services from Meridian. It was Gary's suggestion that I send this request to you. I have attached our Master Plan for the ten -acre site so that you may see the scope of the church's future plans for growth over the next two decades. It will most likely build the sanctuary and Sunday school building first. Please consider this request and feel free to call me if you have any questions. If a Council hearing is required, I would appreciate the opportunity to attend and be available to answer any questions. Thank you. Sincerely, ARMSTRONG ARCHITECTS r r y r Greg Allen, Architect Enclosure h:\data\grega\ustick.1tr 2I 7-8 VACANT C-0!217fefciRL "� _ �•� tib` _ 20NE •1• + .. _.....__..... I. all :i.r: "' a •'.'. �� {� t,l•111. " i [ ,.''- ' ; , '+Mdd� a[_ � , Ilan I• �• - � 7 — �� - I -t. -,� _ -�._._ .,�;. ).'• � I I *� Q'r� C��Yllllll I I i[1l��% _.._ ..._ t ... _.,.. MAP ISO S Nil I ' C r _ 4 l Ii 77!; 0 li�ii I SII ,- -7-Ti I . i McMILLAN ROAD PROPERTY LINE I �I -_r-.._r_______1 ' 1 1 N1A®�sD� P�Rk . sv,�Dr�isiv�v V I I I I I I I II(p... .:: Iw 2 w I a la it I I I II ' : I 1 II I III I11 I I I --- - --_J__-__L_.._-_i___J_.:_ J__l._L_-_L_1_:_1iLJ t I i I +LMWE 6 ............... ........ ......... F1_m IRF FagjB � 1 Flg- A PROPERTY LINE '000 r1 rfw ,av/sem /HP•4GT �2�t1- /�-tP,��?- ��s� PROPOSED SME PLAN - DEMN 1 SCALE, r . W c I = . �__�=iiiriiil:�l�� _,,.�� - r .�_.-..-�,�- r. Meridian City Council April 4, 1995 Page 22 (Inaudible) Kingsford: Shari? Stiles: Mayor and Council we always receive letters from people requesting that they be able to sewer to Boise City. In the last 2 weeks we have received another 2 requests. One of them is right next to what Gary Voigt is developing on the Corner of Eagle and McMillan, it is a Baptist Church, Ustick Baptist Church, they have made a request. Also, there is another woman where half of her property is in the other impact area and the other is in ours. I didn't know, Will thought it would be best to bring this up and ask you how you want me to respond to those people. Would you rather them come before you, do you want me to just say not just no, do you want to look at them at a site specific. It is going to be a continual problem until we just decide how we deal with it. I also can use your help still with Ada County Planning or Ada County Commissioners on the impact area. I think it is pretty important that all of you contact those Commissioners and let them know what we expect. To date any letters that have been written have not had much impact. Do you have some direction for me on what to tell these people. To tell them absolutely not or what? Kingsford: Comments from the Council? Morrow: I guess my comments would be and I have said it before, I don't agree with anything with respect to the concept that is being done of the 1/4 east, north, south whatever direction it might be from section lines and I think thanks to the Meridian School District we ended up with a mess in the NE corner over there. The vehicle for Boise City to cross Cloverdale Road was the school district and the sewer issue. And I think if we grant permission for onsies and twosies to hook to the Boise sewer then all of a sudden that is basically granting permission for that property to go. It is not very big jump and Boise City is rushing as fast as they can to put as much in terms of improvements as they can in the ground to cement their position over there although it doesn't make good sense from any point of view that I can see. So I guess my position would be is that no we don't because once the thing is hooked up to the Boise City sewer then 2 things could happen, one is that it is a very small step to have that ground lost in terms of impact area and secondly at some point in time is that property going to be re -hooked up to Meridian sewer. don't see that's happening, that is an argument that doesn't get very well won. So it seems to me like the position of the City ought to be firmly fixed and that we ought to aggressively pursue the County Commissioners to kind of stop this stuff. Potentially what has happened is that we have gone from a point over the last 3 or 4 years of orderly growth both for the City of Meridian and the City of Boise to a position now where in this NE corner we could have 12,000 people there in the space of a very short period of time and talk about urban sprawl. It appears to me that all we would be doing is contributing Meridian City Council April 4, 1995 Page 23 to that by allowing small groups to hook up to Boise sewer because the next thing is it would be Boise water and then other things. And then it is a real short step for Boise City Council to say we are servicing the area so we ought to zone and annex it into our City. So that is how I see the issue. Kingsford: Other comments of the Council? Tolsma: My sentiments exactly. Kingsford: I guess probably it would be appropriate to have a motion from the Council to deny requests within our area of impact. Morrow: I would move that we deny any request to hook up to the Boise City sewer or any other Boise City services that lie within our area of impact. Yerrington: Second Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Max to disallow the hook up of sewer or water or other utilities for the City of Boise within our area of impact, all those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Kingsford: Anything else Shari? Stiles: Just on a related note, I don't know if any of you noticed it in the Statesman in the last week to ten days, they have passed an ordinance for that. So if we can get hot and heavy with them and get them to see our point of view, I don't know that there is anybody there that fully understands the issues and they have had conflicting reports that we wouldn't be out here for 50 years. Morrow: Who passed the ordinance, Boise City? Stiles: The Ada County Commissioners. Morrow: The Ada County Commissioners passed an ordinance for what? Stiles: Removing this from our impact area, but that was it. Morrow: So they have never recognized our Comprehensive Plan? Kingsford: They have never approved our Comprehensive Plan, they have never MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING: August 19,1997 APPLICANT: I ITEM NUMBER: 16 REQUEST: USTtCK BAPTIST CHURCH SEWER ALTERNATIVES AGENCY CITY CLERK: CITY ENGINEER: CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: CITY ATTORNEY: CITY POLICE DEPT: CITY FIRE DEPT: CITY BUILDING DEPT: MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT: MERIDIAN POST OFFICE: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT: ADA COUNTY STREET NAME COMMITTEE: CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH: NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: SETTLERS IRRIGATION: IDAHO POWER: US WEST: INTERMOUNTAIN GAS: BUREAU OF RECLAMATION: COMMENTS k J OTHER:— &1.1 Materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian. a USTICK 1131 BAPTIST CHURCH 1 3080 Wildwood St. - Boise, Idaho 83713 - (208) 322-1808 July 22, 1997 TO: Meridian City Council FROM: Ustick Baptist Church 3080 Wildwood St. Boise, Id 83713 J U 1 2 3 1991% SUBJECT: Request for meeting ; Dear Council Members, Our church owns ten acres 4ja:sof Eagle Road off McMillan Road. We wish to build a church this year or possibly next year. After discovering how expensive it would be to have our property tested for a septic system as well as the additional expense of installing this system we began searching for alternatives. Because it appears that the Meridian sewer system will. not reach our area for some time we are hopeful that the Council will give us per- mission to hook up to the Boise sewer system. The Boise sewer system currently ends at the northeast corner of our property. May we please be placed on your agenda at your earliest convenience. Thank you very much for your consideration. , USTICK MEMO BAPTIST CHURCH 1 3080 Wildwood St. • Boise, Idaho 83713 • (208) 322-1808 July 22, 1997 TO: Meridian City Council FROM: Ustick Baptist Church 3080 Wildwood St. Boise, Id 83713 SUBJECT: Request for meeting Dear Council Members, U 1°113 ON0 A t=i " X2 M Our church owns ten acres East of Eagle Road off McMillan Road. We wish to build a church this year or possibly next year. After discovering how expensive it would be to have our property tested for a septic system as well as the additional expense of installing this system we began searching for alternatives. Because it appears that the Meridian sewer system will not reach our area for some time we are hopeful that the Council will give us per- mission to hook up to the Boise sewer system. The Boise sewer system currently ends at the northeast corner of our property. May we please be placed on your agenda at your earliest convenience. Thank you very much for your consideration. Sincerely, 00, Greg Reider, stor — 2,4 Ustick Baptist Church 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. * TX CONFIRMAI,ON REPORT ** DATE TIME TO/FROM 08/15 15:09 208 322 1819 f AS OF AUG 15 '9'r 15;10 PAGE. 01 CITY OF MERIDIAN MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMD# STATUS EC --S 00'33" 002 230 OK MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AGENDA TUESDAY, AUGUST 19, 1997 - 7:30 P.M. CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD AUGUST 5,1997: GOOD SAM PROCLAMATION: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT- COUPLET STUDY PRESENTATION: TABLED AUGUST 5, 1997: ORDINANCE #760 - COMMISSIONS, BOARDS, COMMITTEES: TABLED AUGUST 5, 1997: ORDINANCE #761 - TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION: TABLED AUGUST 5, 1997: FINAL PLAT FOR CROSSROADS SUBDIVISION NO. 6, 37 LOTS BY RAMON & MARILYN YORGASON: TABLED AUGUST 5,1997: REQUEST FOR HOOK UP TO CITY SEWER FOR 3195 N. LINDER BY GARY AND MARGARET PALMER: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR VARIANCE REQUEST FOR DAKOTA RIDGE SUBDIVISION BY MAX BOESIGER INC.: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR VARIANCE FOR BENITON CONSTRUCTION COMPANY: 8. ORDINANCE #767 - MERIDIAN ASSEMBLY OF GOD REZONE: 9. ORDINANCE #768 - SHERBROOKE HOLLOW ANNEXATION: 10. PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SHERBROOKE HOLLOW SUBDIVISION BY WESTPARK COMPANY; TABLED AUGUST 5,1997: 11. ORDINANCE #769 - HAVEN COVE SUBDIVISION NO. 7 ANNEXATION: 12. PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR HAVEN COVE SUBDIVISION NO. 7 BY -MERIDIAN LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY: 13. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR VARIANCE REQUEST FOR HAVEN COVE SUBDIVISION NO. 7 BY MERIDIAN LAND DEVELOPMENT CO.: Meridian City Council August 19, 1997 Page 23 down to on Locust Grove. The balance of it will be completed when the back of the property is sold. We are kind of on the pay as you go program or would like to be. Rountree: I guess a question in response to what you just said that based on an illustration here a sidewalk would be provided on parcel 3 at such time that is sold? Geyer: Three and four at such time. as it is sold. I should say at such time that it is sold and developed. We meant to actually have a future phase on that bottom half to put on the map so it wouldn't be so confusing but somehow it didn't make it on the map. Rountree: Well it is there but it is still confusing. Morrow. Mr. Mayor, I would move that we adopt the findings of fact and conclusions as prepared for us by P & Z. Tolsma: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma to approve the findings of fact and conclusions of law as prepared by the Planning and Zoning, roll call vote. ROLL CALL VOTE: Morrow —Yea, Rountree Yea, Tolsma — Yea, Bentley — Absent MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Morrow: Mr. Mayor, Jt is the decision of the City Council of the City of Meridian that it approve the conditional use permit requested by the applicant for the property described in the application with the conditions set forth in these findings of fact and conclusions of law and/or similar conditions as found justified as expressed by Planning and Zoning Director Stiles by the City Council. That the property be required to meet the water and sewer requirements, the fire and life safety codes, Uniform Fire Code, Parking, paving, and landscape requirements and all ordinances of the City of Meridian. The conditional use should be subject to review upon notice to the applicant by the City. The applicant if determined by City staff to be necessary shall enter into a addendum to the development entered into by the City and D & B Supply which was entered into as a result of the annexation of the property into the City of Meridian. Rountree: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Rountree on the decision and recommended as read, all those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #16: USTICK BAPTIST CHURCH SEWER ALTERNATIVES: Meridian City Council August 19, 1997 Page 24 Corrie: Is a representative of the church here? Densley: Mayor and Council, my name is Tom Densley, I am here as a member of Ustick Baptist church. We have bought ten acres on McMillan that abuts up against Madison Avenue Park and we are planning on building a church there. What we are looking at right now is what alternatives we have for sewer. We would like to know what is the City's planning bringing sewer down McMillan and what our possible alternatives could be. We are right across the street from a Boise City manhole. Boise has said that it would be a gravity that they have the capacity so we were just looking at all of the options. So I wanted to come in front of you and let you know what we were thinking and find out what exactly maybe your plans are. Morrow: I guess Mr. Mayor if I might, Mr. Densley where we are currently at is as you are probably aware of this is that we are discussing with the Ada County Commissioners what is going to become of that property for the area of impact. I guess that, I would like to defer offering an opinion as to what we may or may not do until those negotiations are concluded. It appears that it will. be somewhere around the end of September when that decision has taken place. Obviously if the decision is to have that area in our area of impact then you would be dealing with us as a City in terms of how we are going to choose to service that with sewer and other alternatives. If the decision by the Commissioners is not to put it in any area of impact then that kind of puts you in no man's ground for the time being and I don't know what your step would be, I suspect it would be to talk to Boise about doing it on a temporary basis. So at this juncture 1 think it is premature as a Council to have a discussion about something that we don't,know much more about than you know. It appears that within about 40 days we should have that answer. Corrie: Would that be alright to your time table by September 24th? Densley: Yes sir it would. ITEM #17: SANITARY SERVICES UPDATE INFORMATION: Corrie: Mr. Alidjani? Alidjani: Mr. Mayor and Gentlemen Council, City Attorney and Mr. Will Berg, I appreciate the opportunity to speak in front of you tonight. There has been some changes or will be a possibility of some changes on the stockholder of Sanitary Service. Tonight I have brought with me my attorney that has represented Sanitary Services in the past and also my two partners Mr. Bill Gregory and Steven Sedlaceck that you have already met before and also the Johnson family, Diane Johnson, Joe Johnson and Relene Johnson. They are the potential, they have some interest in my business and I have gone to their operation in North Idaho approximately area of Moscow and Lewiston. I have seen their operation for the last year. They have done a great job over there and I believe that, with your blessing that you would be in good hands service