HomeMy WebLinkAboutCastlebrook Sub No. 3 MI 04-008
BEFORE THE MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
CIC 10/5/04
IN THE MATTER OF THE
APPLICATION TO MODIFY THE
CONDITION OF APPROVED.
PRELIMINARY PLAT
REGARDING THE 5-FOOT WIDE
ASPHALT P A THW A Y WITHIN
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION
DISTRICT'S EASEMENT FOR
CASTLEBROOK SUBDIVISION
NO.3. LOCATED EAST OF
NORTH BLACK CAT ROAD AND
SOUTH OF WEST CHERRY LANE
CASE NO. MI-04-008
ORDER OF CONDITIONAL
APPROVAL OF MISCELLANEOUS
APPLICATION
This matter coming before the City Council for Miscellaneous Application approval
pursuant to Meridian City Code for Miscellaneous Application, and the Council finding that the
Administrative Review is complete fTom Anna Canning, Meridian Planning and Zoning Department
Director, for the Planning and Zoning Department, to the Mayor and Council, the Council takes the
following action:
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED THAT:
1.
The subject application by Liberty Development, Inc, is approved subject to those
comments as presented by staff to the Mayor and City Council at the October 5, 2004
City Council hearing, a copy of the minutes from this public hearing is attached
hereto marked Exhibit "A", and by this reference incorporated herein.
2.
Meridian's City Council at their October 5, 2004 City Council hearing voted
unanimously to modify the condition of final plat approval for Castlebrook
ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF MISCELLANEOUS APPLICATION FOR A
PATHWAY IN ANMID EASEMENT FOR LIBERTY DEVELOPMENT, INC (MI-04-008)
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Subdivision No. I Item MI 04-008, condition 1.13 to remove the reference to
approval of final plat conditioned upon the agreement with Nampa Meridian and that
the city recognizes and works with the applicant and Nampa-Meridian Irrigation
District so they understand it will be a public pathway.
NOTICE OF FINAL ACTION
AND RIGHT TO REGULATORY TAKINGS ANALYSIS
The Applicant is hereby notified that pursuant to Idaho Code 67-8003, the Owner may
request a regulatory taking analysis. Such request must be in writing, and must be filed with the City
Clerk not more than twenty-eight (28) days after the final decision concerning the matter at issue. A
request for a regulatory takings analysis will toll the time period within which a Petition for Judicial
Review may be filed.
Please take notice that this is a [mal action of the governing body of the City of
Meridian, pursuant to Idaho Code § 67-6521. An affected person being a person who has an interest
in real property which may be adversely affected by this decision may, within twenty-eight (28) days
after the date of this decision and order, seek a judicial review as provided by Chapter 52, Title 67,
Idaho Code.
By action of the City Council at its regular meeting held on the
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of
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,2004.
Attest:
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By'
. Tammy eerd
Mayor, City of Meridian
ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF MISCELLANEOUS APPLICATION FOR A
PATHWAY IN A NMID EASEMENT FOR LIBERTY DEVELOPMENT, INC (MI-O4-008)
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By: ~a. J::1\ 0..1J'(U
City Clerk's Office
Dated:
\O-..J5-04-
ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF MISCELLANEOUS APPLICATION FOR A
P ATHW A Y IN A NMID EASEMENT FOR LIBERTY DEVELOPMENT, INC (MI-O4-008)
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Item 16:
Public Hearing: MI 04-008 Request to modify the condition of the
approved Preliminary Plat regarding the 5-foot wide asphalt
pathway within Nampa Meridian Irrigation District's easement for
Castle brook Subdivision No.3 by Liberty Development, Inc. -
east of North Black Cat Road and south of West Cherry Lane:
De Weerd: Okay. Clear as mud? Okay. Item 16 is a Public Hearing for MI 04-
008. I will open this Public Hearing for all those wishing to testify with staff
comments.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, we -- you had an opportunity
to discuss this issue, actually, a few weeks ago as related to Chesterfield, which
is just south of here, and the issue was the applicant offered as a -- offered an
off-site improvement as part of his application for Castlebrook Subdivision No.2
preliminary plat and that offer was to -- I think I have a -- yeah -- was to construct
an off-site pathway within the Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District easement and at
that time we assumed that it would just fall within other easements that we have
or other arrangements that -- other arrangements that we have with the Nampa-
Meridian Irrigation District. When Mr. Amar went to go plat the third final plat,
this issue came up -- I'll show you that. No, I can't show you the third final plat.
Sorry. It covers a portion -- this portion of the pathway. And the Nampa-
Meridian Irrigation District said, no, you can't build a private pathway in that
easement, it has to be a City of Meridian pathway and -- he needs to take out the
pathway. So, the question before Council tonight is would you like to take over
ownership of that pathway when it connects. We will have one on the north side
of the drain and on the south side of the drain. So, we will have two pathway
systems. There is a bridge connecting to the park at this location. So, that's one
option and that wouldn't require modification to the preliminary plat necessarily.
The other option would be to just relieve him of the requirement to construct a
pathway.
De Weerd: Okay. Counsel, questions?
Bird: I don't have any questions.
Canning: I'm sorry, Madam Mayor. In Chesterfield I believe what -- I might have
to go back and look up the exact wording and maybe Mr. Amar could help me,
but I believe the decision was that the homeowners association would take care
of maintenance of the property until such time as the City of Meridian was ready
to assume those responsibilities. And that's similar to language we have
throughout the city. The intent is always that the city will eventually take over
maintenance of those pathways. Now I'm done. Sorry.
De Weerd: Thank you. Council, now do you have any questions? Okay.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
"Exhibit A"
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De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Not a question. Maybe a concern if we don't have any comments
from parks and recreation folks who would have to take this on within their
budget and their resources, I assume, at some point in time in the future.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I was a little dismayed that --
the no comment stamp that came back from Mr. Strong.
De Weerd: Would the Council liaison like to comment?
Wardle: Madam Mayor, I'm not going to comment on the specific actions of the
department head in regards to this, as far as it wasn't discussed with myself or --
in the scope of his duties. We are going to hear from the applicant in just a
minute; right?
De Weerd: Uh-huh.
Wardle: I'll hang onto my comments until then.
De Weerd: Okay. Is the applicant here?
Amar: In body.
De Weerd: Were you sworn in?
Amar: No.
De Weerd: Is the testimony you provide tonight the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Amar: Yes.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Amar: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Council Members. For the record, Kevin
Amar. I'll make this really brief.
De Weerd: And your address.
Amar: 114 East Idaho, Suite 230.
De Weerd: Thank you.
"Exhibit A"
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Amar: This is similar to the application in Chesterfield. In Chesterfield, as well
as this one, this is something that was not required by the city, it's not a portion of
a PUD -- in fact, Castlebrook is not a PUD, it's a straight subdivision. It is
something that we had requested doing to improve that area that's always left
open to weed -- weeds and nuisances. At the time we went forward Nampa-
Meridian had the policy of allowing a pathway, public or private, on their -- in this
case their land. This is not an easement, they actually own the property. Since,
then, their policy has changed and they require that it be a public pathway. So,
our request and our hope is not that it be removed, I still want the pathway and I
still want it landscaped, make it a public pathway and we will maintain it until the
city tells us they don't want us to maintain it anymore. So, as far as I believe
Councilmember Rountree's question of does the parks department have the
money in the budget, in my opinion if the parks department never wants to take it
over, they don't have to. That will be a determination by the parks department.
Some day they may want to, but if they don't have it in the budget, we are setting
it up and it's always been our intent to have the homeowners association
maintain it anyway. So, whether it's public or private, the homeowners
association was still going to maintain it.
Rountree: So, I guess my question is Nampa-Meridian District's position is public
in the sense that it's open to anybody or public in the sense that it's owned and
operated or operated by a public entity?
Amar: In a conversation that we had -- and I believe, Anna, were you in that
meeting when we spoke with Bill Hinton? He didn't care who maintained it, he
just wanted a public pathway. The pathway maintenance and -- I believe in
Chesterfield we talked about that, it can be sent out to whatever private entity to
maintain a pathway, but it's a public pathway.
De Weerd: Okay. Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Madam Mayor, just to clarify, I believe the condition that Nampa-
Meridian Irrigation puts on is something that they are -- this is a new policy for
them. If the city is willing to take the ownership, certainly, the homeowners
association could maintain it and I think it's something that maybe -- I'm not sure
if we have to look into it legally or if this is -- the policy has begun because of
some of the state statutes for open recreation and those kinds of things as far as
liability is concerned and I think it's at least worth looking into for future
developments to look at -- and especially this one, but if the city needs -- is going
to get pathways -- and we had a pathway comment earlier, we need to do some
creative things and this is one of the -- one of the things -- this developer wants a
pathway, thinks it's an amenity, I agree, and if we can make it available we
should and we should maybe look into doing this on future projects if the
opportunity arises with the development community and the irrigation district.
"Exhibit A"
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Amar: I could comment about the preliminary plat. I think all of mine should just
be approved, I don't need to -- 'lIleave that for your discretion. But I also don't
always get what I want.
Rountree: With staff conditions.
Amar: I just want to throw it out there.
De Weerd: Well, thank you for that --
Amar: I have sat here that long, I expect my voice to be heard. Not listened to,
but heard.
De Weerd: Your time is up. Anything else?
Amar: Thank you.
Watson: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Watson: I know it's late and I hate to prolong the agony. I just want to be clear.
His plat has been hung up in my office for months because of this last lingering
issue. What will need to happen, in realty, is that the city will have to approve
and sign on the dotted line an addendum to the license agreement. That's what
I'm reading anyway.
Amar: Can I address that?
De Weerd: You bet.
Amar: Condition number three of the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law
state the pathway shall be constructed prior to the issuance of the first certificate
of occupancy permit of any lots adjacent to the pathway, which, to me, indicates
that the final plat will be recorded and we can be building houses. The pathway
just has to be constructed prior to a certificate of occupancy. So, I don't think that
would be hung up in your office.
Watson: Madam Mayor, I don't have those conditions in front of me, but the
construction I don't think is the issue. I think we required that you have a license
agreement for the pathway prior to plat signature. But that license agreement
couldn't be obtained between your company and Nampa-Meridian and so I think
we are headed into a direction where you're willing to be the contact, so to speak,
on the operation and maintenance, but the city is the licensee. So, it puts the city
in a position of being the contact for the irrigation district and enforcing the
"Exhibit A"
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maintenance with the homeowners association, unless I'm misunderstanding
this.
Amar: I don't see the license agreement, I'm just looking real quick, though. So,
I could be -- I have been heard, just not listened to.
De Weerd: Mr. Nary.
Nary: I also -- Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I don't have the
conditions in front of me, but it would appear to me that they are going to have to
have some amendment to the condition to make sure that it's clear as to where
the future ownership and maintenance of this pathway is going to be and that's
the condition we are amending tonight. Once that's done, then, I don't think there
is a particular hold up. There should be some acknowledgment from Nampa-
Meridian at that juncture that that meets their satisfaction to allow that pathway to
be there.
Amar: I was wrong, it does say that the license agreement shall be signed prior
to the signature on the final plat. I guess I would --
Bird: That's the condition put on it.
Amar: Correct. I guess I would ask for some consideration. We have been
sitting in Brad's office for a long time. Or remove the condition of the pathway. I
guess that -- I want the pathway there, I would be happy to move forward, but
modify a condition so can be out of Brad's office and get onto the Priester's
office -- on the Priester, Don Priester. I'm still more than willing to put in a
pathway, I just want to move forward with the project.
De Weerd: Okay. So, Mr. Nary, what do we need to do so this can all happen?
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I guess what I -- what I guess it is
is still up to Mr. Amar. I mean what I thought your testimony was that you're
willing to construct it and the only condition that the City of Meridian has to agree
to is that at some point in the future, if the city really wants to, they can take over
ownership. With that acknowledgment of -- if the Council is willing to do that
tonight, I guess I don't know how much more delay there would be with Nampa-
Meridian. I would assume it wouldn't be much and, then, Mr. Watson could sign
your plat.
Amar: Or the license agreement with Nampa-Meridian, which could take two to
three months, so --
Nary: And your only other option, then, is to -- to not agree to that condition and
remove the condition to build the pathway there, which you're saying you want
"Exhibit A"
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anyway. You were saying if you remove the condition, you will just build it
anyway? And, then, the Council doesn't -- and, Mr. Watson, I --
Amar: Accept it as public. I guess -- I guess I'm a little confused on the
semantics. If the city is saying that we have to -- they are not going to issue -- in
the conditions they won't issue any certificate of occupancies for those lots
adjacent to the pathway prior to the pathway being constructed, can we sign the
final plat and move forward? That holds a number of lots for me to sell those
lots, which gives me guarantee or effort to construct this pathway. It still moves
the process forward, everybody gets what they want, but the process isn't
delayed on my behalf for another couple of months while I'm waiting for
semantics. mean we are -- guess that's what I'm asking. I'm not trying to be
difficultly, I'm not trying to be anything, I'm sure Anna's tired of me calling and
asking and I'm sure Brad is also. It's an issue we have been talking about for
months.
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I guess, Mr. Watson, I mean
what -- what's your thoughts on what he's asking? He's simply saying if there is
a condition that, instead, deals -- allows you to sign the plat now and there is
some other conditions later that still assure the performance of having the
pathway constructed, would that be satisfactory.
Watson: Madam Mayor, yes, I guess it boils down to whether you want the
pathway there. If the answer is yes, then, that condition tied to the final plat
signature could be deleted and the construction of it could be tied to another
milestone, such as COs on those lots backing up to it.
Amar: Which it is tied to that already.
Watson: Right.
De Weerd: Okay.
Nary: So, you can do that?
Watson: Yes.
De Weerd: Any further clarification, Council, on what's being requested?
Rountree: Probably for specificity, if Brad has the condition number and the
modification, I assume, would be to -- if we want to do this, to allow the signature
of the final plat, without agreement with Nampa-Meridian, all other conditions to
be complied with.
Watson: Madam Mayor and Councilmember Rountree, it's in 1.13 of the order of
conditional approval. Submit a signed license agreement with Nampa-Meridian
"Exhibit A"
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Irrigation District for the pathway and culvert foot bridge prior to signature on the
final plat. That's the way it reads right now. You could probably delete that
whole sentence.
Rountree: Okay. And still accomplish the path.
Watson: There will need to be a license agreement at some point in the future.
Rountree: Actually, you could leave the first part of that sentence and just strike
the signature of the final plat.
Watson: Sure.
Rountree: Okay.
De Weerd: Okay. Okay. Well-
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move that we close the Public Hearing on Item No. 16.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: It's been moved and seconded to close the Public Hearing. All those
in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move that we modify the condition of final plat approval for
Castlebrook Subdivision No.1, Item MI 04-008, condition 1.13, to remove the
reference to approval of final plat conditioned upon the agreement with Nampa-
Meridian.
Bird: Second.
Rountree: Just remove that last portion on the final plat.
Bird: Second.
Rountree: And that the city recognizes and works with the applicant and
"Exhibit A"
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Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District, so they understand that it will be a public
pathway.
Bird: Second agrees.
De Weerd: Okay. Is there any further discussion? The motion is to approve
Item 16. Hearing no further discussion, Mr. Clerk.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
"Exhibit A"
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