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Zaremba: Second.
Borup: Motion and Second to close the hearing. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Moe: Mr. Chairman, I move we forward to City Council recommending approval of CUP
04-030, request for a Conditional Use Permit for a gymnastics center in an I-L zone for
Danik Gymnastics, Viktor Danilovitch, 345 South Adkins Way, to include all staff
comments and conditions of the staff memo dated for the hearing date of September
2nd, 2004, received August 23rd, 2004, and the letter from Mr. Danilovitch received by
the city clerk's office August 31 st, 2004 -- excuse me, not city clerk, but Planning and
Zoning. End of motion.
Zaremba: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 6:
Public Hearing: CUP 04-031 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a
retail candle and gift shop in an O-T zone for Kathy Hinshaw (Aromatic
Sensations) by Kathy Hinshaw-128 East Pine Avenue:
Borup: Next item is Public Hearing CUP 04-031. This is a request for a Conditional
Use Permit for a retail candle and gift shop in an OT zone for Kathy Hinshaw, 128 East
Pine Avenue. We'd like to open this hearing and start with the staff report,
Hood: Thank you, Mr. Commissioner -- Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission,
This is another CUP application for a retail candle and gift shop on Pine Street. The
mailing address is 128. It's located on the north side of Pine, just west of 2nd Street,
between 2nd and Main. To the north of the subject site is an alley and on the other side
of the alley are some single-family residences. To the south are -- is a single-family
home directly across street. You can see our city parking lot to the south and west.
Directly to the west of this site is a used children's clothing and toys, I believe, also, so
used children's items anyway there and that business to the. east is the High Desert
Construction office. Everything, including this parcel is zoned OT, in Old Town. The
site plan submitted by the applicant -- I apologize that this didn't come through very well,
it didn't scan in very well, but you may have a hard copy in front of you, but there is only
one on-site parking stall proposed. That is the biggest issue, I think, probably, with this
application. There are a lot of existing homes in Old Town that are converting to retail-
office type uses. This is another one, but parking is definitely an issue to be discussed.
The city does not have any special regulations for Old Town parcels when it comes to
parking requirements and there is only one on-site parking stall and it is a handicapped
stall located off of the alley. There is currently a concrete slab with a covered carport, in
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fact, it will be utilized. And current city code does require retail uses to provide one
parking stall for every 200 gross square feet of the building. This is a 924 square foot
building, so rounded; they would need five parking stalls. Also there is on-street parking
on Pine Street that is utilized quite a bit. They would be able, according to our
standards for dimensions, which are 23 feet long per stall, would be able to fit two
parking stalls in front. So, it's on site, but in front of this business there are two and,
again, the city parking lot is in the general vicinity. Just one other thing of note
regarding parking. Last year there was an application, again, for that used children's
clothing and/or toys and they asked for a variance. The subject business has also
submitted a variance that will be heard by the City Council with this application after
your recommendation. That application -- that applicant was allowed to utilize the on-
street parking and one on-site parking stall for that business, with those other
considerations, because there are on-street and across the street parking for the
business. Being such, this is just kind of a little bit more of staff's analysis, I guess, is in
the staff report, but oftentimes these specialty retail shops don't generate some of the
traffic that a more general retail store may, something just to take into consideration. I
believe one of the other things that back in 1901 when this was platted people weren't
thinking about parking requirements. There is only 46 feet of frontage and you have
pretty narrow lots. It is .18 acres, so just to keep those things in mind, I guess,
anyways. I think that's everything I wanted to touch on. With that, I will stand for any
questions -- oh, staff is recommending approval. I did want to point out to you, to make
the legal department happy, that there is no conflict of interest; the applicant did put
down me as the engineer, planner, surveyor for this. I did help the applicant in pre-app
meetings, but I am not working on this site consulting, so I did just want to go on record
with that and with that I'll stand for any questions.
Borup: Questions from the Commission? I noticed that, too, but I assumed that was the
case.
Zaremba: I would comment on these smaller projects it sometimes speeds it along to
have the department provide a little extra help than they might on somebody who can
hire their own engineer, so I personally don't have a problem with that. I would have
two questions, though. One of them -- and the fire department doesn't mention it, but
other than their first point on page seven with the acceptance of the water supply for fire
protection will be by the Meridian Water Department, are you aware of any special
requirements that they might put on for the storage and making and display of
flammable items, such as candles?
Hood: Mr. Chair, Commissioner Zaremba, I do know they have a manufacturing
standard condition. I do not know why it was not included here. I'm recalling when the
agency meeting was held, Chief Bowers, who used to do this for a long time, was there,
but has since turned over the reigns to Joe Silva. He may have just missed it, but there
may be some special for a manufacturing -- or a business of this type that may have
candles there lit to show their work -- there may be. I do not know that, though. I'm
sorry.
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Zaremba: But having the adequate water supply for fire protection probably would give
them the right to introduce that part if they needed to? It seems appropriate to me. I just
wanted to make sure that thought was included. I see a head nodding. The other
question I had -- on the staff report, page - I lost the page number, but it's the page
before the one that I was just talking about, so it must be page six. Yes, it is. About
item number 11, it says the applicant or successor -- maybe I'm wrong, but I was
surprised. Does the CUP go with the land, so that it can be sold along with -- there can
be a successor owner of the CUP?
Hood: That's correct. The Conditional Use Permit runs with the land, not the applicant,
so if you don't move your CUP, the approval is for the use, so, yeah, the successor part
would be true.
Zaremba: Okay. Good. I was thinking differently, but I'm glad to have that clarified.
That, then, leads me to a couple other questions, though. Is it limited to this specific
use? In other words, it does not automatically turn this into a retail property, as opposed
to a residential, it has to remain a candle shop and within that candle shop they cannot
on their own set up a booth for Madam Zelda's Taro Card Reading and stuff like that?
It's limited to their specific stated uses?
Hood: Mr. Chair, Commissioner Zaremba, we go off of the schedule of use control, so
this would be a retail business. You could open up another retail business not
specializing in candles and gift shop. If there is not another closer classification, you
would not have to gain CUP approval. If they wanted to convert this to an office, that's a
different use and they would have to come back in for CUP approval based on the OT
zone. But this is approved for a retail business in general, more specifically for this
applicant, a candle shop. So, it can be converted to Madam Zelda's or whatever you
just said. A clothing store, any type of retail business could move in there, potentially,
with this CUP approval.
Zaremba: And that leads me to the question of whether that -- if your assessment of the
parking situation would stay the same if it were some other retail use --
Hood: Mr. Chair, Commissioner Zaremba, the existing home, to convert that to
anything other than a somewhat specialized -- I don't see it happening. If they were to
tear it down and start anew maybe -- some of these homes that are converted, those
tend to be of this variety and staff is kind of put in a little bit of a bind when reviewing
these, just because of the history of Old Town and what the city kind of wants to see in
these mix of uses, but you don't take into account fully -- you got 40-foot wide lots and
where are you going to put parking and a structure on site. So, they are -- that is
difficult. I think in the next year or year and a half or so we are going to have some
specific guidelines for developing downtown and possibly some sites for parking
garages and those type of things that can fully address those issues. But I thought
about it, I guess, in the analysis and probably will get a little more detailed in the
variance application, but it would be hard to recommend anything other than approval, I
think, just based on what else has happened in the Old Town with similar situations.
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So, I know that doesn't fully answer the question, but at least that's my perspective on
this.
Zaremba: It does answer my question and thank you.
Borup: Questions from any of the other Commissioners? Does applicant have anything
they'd like to add? Is the applicant here? Okay. Kathy.
Hinshaw: Good evening. I'm Kathy Hinshaw, owner of 128 East Pine Avenue and I
know there is not a lot of parking there and I like the home and would like to convert it
over to retail and I guess that's about it.
Borup: Okay.
Hinshaw: Do you have any questions for me?
Borup: Questions from any of the Commissioners?
Zaremba: I guess not.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman, I just had one question. From a manufacturing perspective, can
you kind of fill us in on what you will be doing with candles? Are you bringing in pre-
made candles and its just retail or are you going to manufacture, to a certain degree, or
what?
Hinshaw: Yes. I have the -- I buy the wax and I buy the scent and I melt them and,
then, I just pour them into containers or molds and that's how I sell them.
Rohm: How do you melt the -- is it propane? Is it natural gas? Is it on the stove?
Hinshaw: No, it's not on the stove, but it's like a crock-pot. That's what you would
compare it to. And you just heat it up to probably about 130 degrees and the wax just
melts and you just pour it -- pour it into your containers with the wick.
Rohm: So, you're not going to have a big bunson burner sitting there --
Hinshaw: No. Things have changed.
Rohm: Okay. Well, that's alii had.
Hinshaw: Yeah. And one other thing I wanted to let you know about. If there
happened to be a fire and the wax -- the way that you put it out is with baking soda
and/or a fire extinguisher. Water just kind of makes it worse. So, I have those.
Rohm: So an abundance of water wouldn't necessarily help.
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Hinshaw: No. No. It would just make it worse.
Zaremba: But I'm hearing you say you have plan to have plenty of baking soda and
some fire extinguishers?
Hinshaw: Oh, yes. Yes. I have plenty of that.
Zaremba: The concern would be that the age of this building and being a wood
structure that you would need to act fast, of course.
Hinshaw: Well, it's stucco and lath. and plaster, so -- okay. Thank you.
Borup: Thank you. Do we have anyone to testify on this application? Seeing none,
Commission?
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move the hearing be closed.
Moe: Second.
Borup: Motion and second to close the hearing. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Zaremba: As we all know, the Old Town area is a transition area and we have reviewed
applications next door and around us, which we have approved for this kind of transition
and I think all the questions have been answered as satisfactorily as they can be
answered and I would be in favor of approving. Okay. Mr. Chairman, I move we
forward to the City Council recommending approval of CUP 04-031, request for a
Conditional Use Permit for a retail candle and gift shop in an O-T zone for Kathy
Henshaw, Aromatic Sensations, by Kathy Henshaw, 128 East Pine Avenue, to include
all comments of the staff in their memo dated for the hearing date of September 2,
2004, received by the city clerk August 27,2004, with no changes.
Moe: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 7:
Public Hearing: AZ 04-022 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 4.91
acres from RUT to R-8 zone for Redfeather Village Subdivision by
Packard Estates Development, LLC - east of North Eagle Road and north
of East Fairview Avenue:
Item 8:
Public Hearing: PP 04-029 Request for Preliminary Plat approval for 20
single family residential building lots on 4.91 acres in a proposed R-8 zone