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Borup: Motion and second to close the hearing. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Moe: Mr. Chairman, I move we forward to City Council recommending approval of AZ
04-018, request for annexation and zoning of 19.4 acres from RUT to R-8 zone for
Chatsworth Subdivision by Dyver Development, LLC, west of South Locust Grove Road
and south of East Victory Road, to include all the staff comments and conditions for the
hearing date of August 19th, 2004, received by city clerk's office August 16th, 2004, with
one change -- I take that back. That would take care of the annexation.
Zaremba: I'll second that.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor. Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Moe: Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward to City Council recommending approval of
PP 04-025, request for preliminary plat approval for 77 single family residential building
lots and four common lots on 19.4 acres in a proposed R-8. zone for Chatsworth
Subdivision by Dyver Development, LLC, west of the South Locust Grove Road and
south of East Victory Road, to include all staff comments and conditions of the hearing
date of August 19th, 2004, received by the city clerk's office August 16th, 2004, with one
comment. On page eleven, item eight, we'd like to extend that in the fencing that the --
it would require a gate at the stub street, East Pisa Street, be installed full width of the
street.
Zaremba: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 14:
Public Hearing: CUP 04-027 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a
daycare facility for up to 150 children in a C-G zone for Primary Colors
Daycare by Primary Colors, Inc. - east of South Eagle Road and south of
East Overland Road:
Borup: Next item is Public Hearing CUP 04-027, request for a Conditional Use Permit
for a daycare facility for up to 150 children in a C-G zone for Primary Colors Daycare by
Primary Colors. South Eagle and south of East Overland. We'd like to open this
hearing and start with the staff report.
Kirkpatrick: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, this application is a
Conditional Use Permit for a childcare center. The application is a Conditional Use
Permit, because they are proposing to serve 150 children. The subject property is
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located in Silverstone Business Park and it's the site for both Citi Bank and for T Mobile,
so it's probably a prime location for a daycare center out there. The daycare center will
be licensed by the state of Idaho and will meet all state daycare criteria. The applicant
also operates another daycare in Boise and one in Eagle, just to give you some
background on the applicant. And here is an aerial, which is not quite up to date, but
shows some of Silverstone. And here is a copy of the site plan. The proposed project
meets all site plan criteria for the Conditional Use Permit. It has all of the required
parking, landscape buffers, and landscaping for the parking lot. The site consists of a
large -- of a building, which is approximately 8,000 square feet in size. This is the
childcare building. And, then, a large play area, which includes two sand boxes,
playground equipment, and the applicant has submitted detailed drawings of what the
playground equipment is going to look like for the site. The only real issue with this site
plan, since it has been submitted to the Planning and Zoning Commission, that the fire
chief has commented he wants to see a turnaround at the southern end of that eastern -
- of the parking lot on the east part of the site. So, to do that turnaround, most likely
they are going -- I haven't seen a reconfiguration yet. They are going to have to lose a
couple of parking spaces. Right now this site is over parked, but we will want to make
sure that when they submit the revised site plan they still meet the parking requirements
for the daycare center where they are proposing to serve 150 children. And that's really
the only outstanding issue. Staff recommends approval of this project. Oh. And here is
some elevations of the proposed daycare center. Do you have any questions of staff?
Zaremba: I do have a question.
Borup: Commissioner Zaremba.
Zaremba: Essentially, the parking area, I think we have had discussion on other larger
daycares -- and by that, the biggest one I remember is like 40 kids, but they tend to not
need as much parking as they need a real drop off area that would be in and out and I'm
thinking if we are looking at 150 kids, shouldn't there, near the entrance, be something
that's specifically a drop off area that allows the traffic to flow smoothly?
Kirkpatrick: Well, I will have the applicant address where -- where they envision the
drop off area being. Our code requires these spaces. They are required to have one
space every ten children and one for every staff member. So, they are required -- I
think worked out to have about 35 spaces. So, that's -- that's part of the code that we
can't modify. But we will have the applicant go ahead and address the drop off issue.
Zaremba: Okay. Thank you.
Borup: Okay. Would the applicant like to make their presentation?
Canning: Chairman Borup, just a quick comment. Parents are -- and the applicant can
verify this, but the parents are required to sign their children in inside the door, so you
can't really just drop them off, as might have happened in past times. You have to walk
them inside the door.
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Zaremba: I think I betrayed the fact that I don't have children. I'm not up to date on
those kind of procedures.
Borup: I think that was the testimony at previous -- some of the previous ones, that they
require them to bring them in the door. Okay.
Hobbs: Chris Hobbs, 12552 West Executive. Chairman and Commissioners, I'd like to
thank the staff for their comments. They did a good job. They did mention the concern
with the turnaround for fire and trash -- actually, we have spoken with the fire
department, with Ken Bowers, and I believe we also have the -- an okay in speaking
with SSC, that instead of a turnaround, this area here is going to be opened up more
and be striped no parking, so that they can -- let's see, they can come in and, then, back
up and, then, go out again and they said that they'd have enough space to work that.
And they already mentioned the point with the drop off that they have to go in and do
that anyway. And at the other two daycare centers they are set up and they have
similar parking schemes, so -- and it seems to work all right. And I will stand for any
questions. Thank you.
Zaremba: You answered mine.
Borup: Questions from any of the other Commissioners? Okay. Thank you.
Newton-Huckabay: Is there not room to put --
Borup: Go ahead, Commissioner.
Newton-Huckabay: -- where you would turn around, rather than back up?
Borup: Your question was is there --
Hobbs: No, there is not. What they were wanting was some sort of T or something that
would cut way into here and there just wasn't -- we looked at all sorts of ways, we spent
a couple days looking at it and discussing it, and we just couldn't make any of the other
options work until we figured that out.
Rohm: And the fire chief is agreeable to your solutions?
Hobbs: Yes. We spoke with Ken Bowers.
Rohm: That's an important one.
Kirkpatrick: And, Chairman, Members of the Commission, we want to make sure that
we have documentation of that prior to the City Council hearing. We don't have it yet.
Borup: And that's in the works?
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Hobbs: Yes. Okay. Thank you. Do we have anyone else to testify on this application?
Seeing none, Commissioners?
Moe: Mr. Chairman, I move we close the Public Hearing.
Rohm: Second.
Borup: Motion and second, All in favor?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Moe: Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward to City Council recommending approval of
CUP 04-027, request for a Conditional Use Permit for a daycare facility for up to 150
children in a C-Z zone for Primary Colors Daycare by Primary Colors, Inc., east of South
Eagle Road and south of East Overland Road, to include all staff comments and
conditions of the staff memo for the hearing date of August 19th,. 2004, received by the
city clerk August 13th, 2004.
Rohm: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 15:
Item 16:
Item 17:
Public Hearing: AZ 03-037 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 46.40
acres from RUT to R-B zone for proposed Chesterfield Subdivision by
Centennial Development, LLC - east of North Black Cat Road and north
of West Franklin Road:
Public Hearing: PP 03-046 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 214
residential lots and 39 common lots on 46.40 acres in a proposed R-B
(PD) zone for proposed Chesterfield Subdivision by Centennial
Development, LLC - east of South Black Cat Road and north of West
Franklin Road:
Public Hearing: CUP 03-070 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a
Planned Development for residential subdivision in a proposed R-B (PD)
zone for proposed Chesterfield Subdivision by Centennial Development,
LLC - east of South Black Cat Road and north of West Franklin Road:
Borup: Okay, The next project is Chesterfield Subdivision. We'd like to open Public
Hearing AZ 03-037, a request for annexation and zoning of 46.4 acres from RUT to R-B
zones for the proposed Chesterfield Subdivision by Centennial Development. And we'd
like to open Public Hearing PP 03-046, request for preliminary plat approval of 214
residential lots on 46.4 acres. And Public Hearing CUP 04-070, request for a