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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-12-06City of Meridian Historic Preservation Commission Meeting Meridian City Hall — Mayors Conference Room Thursday, December 6, 2007 @ 5:30 P.M. Item 1. Roll -call Attendance: X Walter Lindgren — Chair X Frank Thomason O Tom Hammond — Vice Chair X Carol Harms O Steve Turney Others Present: Carol Jetton and Will Berg. 2. Adoption of Agenda: Lindgren: Has everybody had a chance to review the agenda and does anyone have any amendments or I would entertain a motion to approve. Harms: I make a motion to approve the agenda as presented. Thomason: Second. Lindgren: I have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. 3. Approval of November 1, 2007 Meeting Minutes: Lindgren: Has everyone had a chance to review the minutes? Thomas: I move that we approve these minutes as presented. Harms: Second. Lindgren: Any further discussion? Call the question. All those in favor. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. 4. Budget / Finance Monthly Report: Lindgren: Will, did you want to elaborate on anything? Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 2 of 19 Berg: Not really elaborate, Mr. Chairman, but this is the monthly phone bill for the Historical Society Office and we really don't have anything else that we have expended. I did submit a bill for Madeline Buckendorf's agreement for invoice number 2 for $500. 1 believe this was the balance of the National Register work. Lindgren: (Inaudible). Thomason: Mr. Chairman if there is no further discussion I move we approve the bills (inaudible). Harms: Second. Lindgren: Part of the discussion I guess this (inaudible--). Okay, so that is down a little bit? Berg: Yes, the budget is down a little bit because if you remember last year we had just a one time expense the inventory project dealing with items from the Historical Society and Lila Hill. And there was a discussion about after the fact, if we wanted it back and I said we needed it to go back and amend it for the specific proposal with the amount requested — Lindgren: Back to the Council? Berg: Yes. Lindgren: That is fine. I mean I think that is still doable. We have projects (inaudible--). Berg: That is not using our total budget last year and so if we really needed it (inaudible). But we are okay for right now. Lindgren: One other item and kind of a side discussion is as we are dealing with SHPO, I believe we got $3,000 again from SHPO. But what we need to do and quite frankly I didn't realize this is to document our hours. I think, Will are you still able to do that as far as (inaudible) concern or if there is additional hours that each of us are spending on a task project or what have you to make sure that each individual is keeping documentation? Thomason: (Inaudible). Berg: I will find out what volunteer hours are and (inaudible) a specific amount of money for a professional person like Walt or Steve, being architects or that profession and hire them out with a dollar per hour amount. We want to try and keep track of that and we can do that pretty easy with our minutes, attending meetings, you know who is here and how long the meeting is. It is outside that Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 3 of 19 documented area we need to help document. What we did find out that for whatever reason it is, the hours or the time allotment is for October 1St through August 31St. The month of September we did a lot of things. We had the actual walking tour we took and it is documented. We had the Business After Hours and then we had our Scarecrow Festival and those three heavy volunteers in September. Lindgren: (Inaudible). Berg: Well, anyway for this time we couldn't account for any of it for this year. So I had that question. (Inaudible). Lindgren: And if you file for an extension (inaudible). So I guess the point is for this -- what is in the past (inaudible) because these are to match what they are donating. We really need to keep track of those hours. We could hit those in kind hours pretty simply it is just a matter of getting them all documented. Berg: Some really good examples is Walt has specific documentation from meetings that he had with Jim Jewett and with the Sleepy Hollow project and that was easy to just spell it right out. Prep time for some of these meetings that Walt might spend on (inaudible) because it was hard to document if you are only spending an hour or — Lindgren: Well I think that could still be approved because we are counting our time (inaudible--). Berg: Maybe we just need to document specific dates and we had this much prep time on this day for particular meeting. But, we can work on that. Lindgren: Something to keep in mind. Berg: Yes, the awareness is if we are going to do some things outside the meeting that we want to try and document and fill out what it is and get it tagged and invoiced. Thomason: Would it help if we didn't call it prep time, just to refer to it on the basis of whatever the subject you are working on happens to be, whether it is the tour or the building research of old barns or — would that help? We didn't call it that. Lindgren: No, I think that is probably — Thomason: -- call it research or — Lindgren: Yeah, I am not sure that is as big of an issue, I think it is just a matter of throughout the year effect. Maybe what I could do is even try to find an old time sheet or something like that so we could actually even have a real simple, Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 4 of 19 (inaudible) type time sheet and so each of us — so you know if you are spending time that Will or I may not be aware of you would be able to keep track and it will add up quickly and we will get to that target pretty quickly. Harms: So I must have missed that. What is the purpose of that? Lindgren: Because part of the matching of $3,000 that we had last year, part of that with those funds are matching funds. For example, if we hire Madeline to do let's say, $1,500 dollars' worth of work, SHPO will match those funds. But, in this case we didn't have enough for SHPO to match our in-kind services that provide as a Commission (inaudible--). We can account for all of those hours and so let's say that equals up to $1,500 — I mean we could probably get up to $2,000 pretty quickly and SHPO will match that and we can use the rest of the funds, like the (inaudible) from the city, like survey work or other work. Harms: It is just utilizing the — assigning dollars to the time and utilizing it, right? Lindgren: Yeah because it is a more effective way to use it verses taking — the (inaudible--). Berg: For example of something that we did not do was the time that Steve put into putting those pictures on discs, but we had such a small window in trying to get them documented that we are going to talk to him about anything after October 1St this year that if he could allocate a time and a date and that is something that would be a very extensive project verses the hours, plus (inaudible--). I didn't count any of my time because there was a little question about what I am doing on the payroll for the city. Harms: To clarify that those are hard dollars going out to compensate for that time or just the utilization of the dollars off of a sheet? Berg: Matching. We are trying to match our volunteer hours in the amount of time (inaudible) and value to that should be matched with grant money. I am not really sure how it is, but they get so much money, they try to divide it up amongst all of the people in the state and organizations that want some of it. From what I understood is they had — if nobody else wanted the money we could maybe have gotten more. But, they have got to try and allocate so everybody — Lindgren: I think so. We could have donated a percentage to another city (inaudible). Berg: We are very fortunate because we do get some budget dollars from the city to utilize a lot of projects. A lot of other places do not. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 5 of 19 Lindgren: I think as we are really getting this year kicked off, maybe what I could do prior to next meeting is come with hard copies of just blank timesheets or just something to help keep track of things. We just need to be on top of it so we are not scrambling for it. Berg: Another thing would be to give the time to me and have that documented and we would have that in the minutes. Lindgren: We could just have a standing item. Okay, so there was a motion and there was a second. Any other discussion? Call the question. All those in favor of the approval of the budget and finance report say aye. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. 5. Review Historic Register Nomination for Mountain States Telephone and Telegraph Building Prepared by Madeline Buckendorf: Lindgren: Have you all had a chance to review the nomination? We can get copies of probably the critical items or items section 7 and 8, which tend to get into the some of the architectural stuff. Actually I would be happy to email this all to you as far as the doc application on this. Will maybe — would you mind maybe this week distributing that out? Berg: Do you want it on email or do you want it on a disc? Harms: I don't because I have seen this. (Inaudible--). Are you comfortable with what you have seen? Lindgren: Yeah and again (inaudible). Any other comments on that? I think we are in good shape. (Inaudible discussion) Thomason: Mr. Chair I make a motion that we accept the Historic Register Nomination for the Mountain States Telephone / Telegraph Building, which was built in 1926 as prepared by our consultant. Harms: Second. Lindgren: Any further discussion on that? Again, Will if you don't mind emailing the electronic copies to everybody because it wouldn't hurt to have it and you can discard it if you don't want it. Call the question. All those in favor say aye. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 6 of 19 6. Review Proposal for Pine Avenue Buildings' Survey Prepared by Madeline Buckendorf: Lindgren: Again this has to do with the meeting last month with Dennis Baker and Dan Torfin regarding their projects. (Inaudible--). I have had a chance to review it. Although I noticed she is probably (inaudible) that I will need to confirm with her; with Commission's agreement is that under project budget, I think it is just a typo (inaudible--). She has proposed it for $800 for that scope. Thomason: Do you need action on this one or just hold it for another--? Lindgren: I would like action really because as the weather does continue to tum south, so to speak (inaudible--). (Inaudible discussion) Berg: Is this something that we can just make an amendment to her contract? (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: I guess this Commission can make a recommendation for approval, technically. Harms: So we need to make a motion for a recommendation for approval to City Council? Lindgren: Exactly. Harms: So that would be a motion. Thomason: Second. You are talking about these amounts and the scope of the proposal? Yes. (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: Any further discussion on it? Call the question. All those in favor of approval for the Pine Avenue Buildings' Survey say aye. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. Lindgren: And I will be able to confirm that with her and Will, you will be able to get that prepared and then to Council and I hope to try and to get that on the 18t". We have a workshop next week, so I will get it on the consent on the 18th. Lindgren: Is there a verbal (inaudible), do you think? I mean does that (inaudible)? Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 7 of 19 Berg: I think you are probably okay with that (inaudible). 7. Discussion of Meridian Exchange Bank Building and Other Downtown Buildings: Lindgren: I think the reason that is on the agenda is and I forgot to bring it, but I did receive a copy to stop work order from the Building Department on the Meridian Exchange Bank. Through various sources my understanding is that the developers have been good in meeting with the city. They are still looking and working to salvage at least the Exchange Bank and it seems to me there was a second building off of that corner and then the market. Thomason: It is the Bank on the corner and then next to it is the market. Lindgren: Isn't there a (inaudible) building? Thomason: I believe there is, isn't there? Lindgren: That is probably the one they were talking about. Harms: I think something in between the Bank and the (inaudible). Wasn't there a little strip there that was a drug store or something? Thomason: Yeah, a drug store, Webb's. Lindgren: One of those was scheduled to be demoed except they were doing everything they can to still salvage, but — I talked to (inaudible) and they still intend to do that. I guess I just wanted to bring that up that the city is engaged in this. I am not sure, maybe we could be a little bit more engaged on how — I think I have expressed this before (inaudible). I would wonder and I have been talking with Shaun Wardle a little bit more on some of these downtown buildings and the idea that maybe just to get ahead of some of these issues a little quicker. Certainly with a developer like this the intent is always to salvage the building. I am not sure what this group can do more except to (inaudible) and hope it all works out. Thomason: I agree with you, especially after be a (inaudible) of those buildings and I would be thrilled if they could salvage any, including the facade of the exterior. It is so dilapidated. Harms: Some of the windows are out and there is so much going on with the elements. Thomason: Yes, it is very disturbing. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 8 of 19 Lindgren: Like for example the 8th Street Market where they actually salvaged the front facade and they were able to do it and again it wasn't cheap for these guys. I think there is still a possibility. (Speaker unknown): Are they still working on this area or is it kind of a standstill? Lindgren: Yeah, they are. I can't tell you if it is a financing issue, but I think they have had drawings into the city. (Inaudible--). I have been making a point in my mind anyway to get with Bruce with the city at the Building Department and talk about that. I have been meaning to get with him and just haven't. Thomason: I agree with in the sense that we can only applaud their efforts and encourage and salvage whatever possible. (Inaudible discussion) Harms: Do you think it would make a difference if we did like a walking tour, the information, the stories that it would kind of share that (inaudible) with them and show them how important it was? Show them the history? Lindgren: I don't know specifically. I do know that — I mean their goal is to say — it is not that that would make that much of a difference. I don't think that their attitude is well it is just another building. I don't think that that is how they are approaching this. Harms: No, but you are even with the Board and (inaudible) and you recognize how the deterioration is accelerating and the importance of it and they know things that are going on around it (inaudible--). If you can tell me who this is I would certainly be more than happy to give them a buzz and say — Thomason: Who is the developer? Lindgren: It is Bollen Group, Michael (inaudible--) (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: If I remember correctly it is a long distance cell. I think it is 208-404-9290 and that is Michael Jobbs. Harms: Okay, I might give him a call and see what — Lindgren: Just say something like we are really encouraged that you are still looking at the building, still — Harms: I would just tell him that we did the walking tour and just amazed at that building and so please keep the intent to continue to salvage the building. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 9 of 19 Thomason: That was the economic, social heart of the village in Meridian. Lindgren: If you have trouble reaching him, just email me and I will see if I can find other numbers. Harms: He is not here in the area? Lindgren: Oh, he is. For whatever reason he has got an old cell phone that he started the service and (inaudible--). (Inaudible discussion) 8. HPC Page on City's Website Update / Need for Photographs: Berg: It is not like this is heavily updated, but we have done a few more things. (Inaudible discussion) Berg: Yes, there are two of them that we don't have. (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: Will, if you can can you update -- like this nomination and just post the nominations and the photos too? Berg: We will put a little asterisk here, submit it and put it with the rest of these right here. If you see, there are a couple that are highlighted that (inaudible). Lindgren: Do you have the text for those nominations? If you don't, I can forward those to you. Berg: Yes, and we can attach them on here too. Lindgren: Because it is items 7 and 8 of the nomination and that is where you get into the history of the building and also the criteria and (inaudible). (Inaudible discussion) Berg: Something to maybe think about, maybe we could create some of these as a membership or a contact or whatever. (Inaudible discussion) Berg: Carol talked to Shelly Houston our communications person and that is going to be on the website. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 10 of 19 Jetton: Yeah, this is the newsletter that I sent out, but it is the picture (inaudible) and just the information about the open house. Lindgren: So it will be on the main page? Berg: Yes. That is something that we could put on here anyway because it is a reminder that we do (inaudible). (Inaudible discussion) Berg: So just some little things that we thought that for the most part the Meridian citizens or somebody coming to the city would see that we do have an active group. If there are other things you want let's get them on here and get it started. Harms: In that proclamation for the Historic Preservation (inaudible) about what we are going to do and the budget may have to cover some of those things because other communities do some pretty interesting (inaudible) and they cost a little bit, but not much, but it is a fun way to learn history. I can resurrect some of that again. Lindgren: Would you mind distributing that this year and let's start. Harms: Since I tried that last year and it went so well? Lindgren: No, it was not fair we started in like late April. Harms: Okay, I will do that. It is a fun thing. Lindgren: I think that would be great and if we can incorporate some of these — I forget about this PowerPoint presentation. Berg: Because that was an easy way if somebody wanted to follow through of what was involved with a structure. (Inaudible discussion) Berg: We have postcards that are kind of nice, but when you scan them in they are not really very good. So if you know of some actual photos, we could incorporate that. I think this one turned out really nice. Jetton: Yeah, we have some actual photos that the postcards were made from. Berg: Maybe we could just use those and scan them in and then we would have them and then we could incorporate them and change them once in a while. Harms: (Inaudible --) Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 11 of 19 Jetton: Well, we have some that would probably scan better than the postcards (inaudible). (Inaudible discussion) Berg: We will check it out and like I said we can put some information on it. But, that is all that we have so far. We have the mission statement. We have the representatives and whatever else (inaudible--) and we put our meeting times on there. (Inaudible discussion) Harms: I think that was the original idea and then we are going to have a second walking tour and maybe a third one (inaudible). That could be changed periodically. (Inaudible discussion) Berg: -- to account for our hours. Harms: Not only that, but we do have some people in the community who would very much like to join us on that walking tour and that would be great (inaudible). It could just be opened up to — Berg: Just to throw this idea out — I contacted Mountain View High School, they have a very good technical class in audio and visual production and they do lots of things. Maybe they could take a couple of their cameras, follow us around and (inaudible), edit it or do whatever — Lindgren: Who is the contact teacher for that? Could you find that out? (Inaudible discussion) Berg: That would be a very good project. I will see if I can find out. But, I only say that only because they do have a very good program and maybe that might be a project that would — Jetton: Shelly brought up something about that little magazine that they are coming out with now, well yeah; we just got the January and the February — Berg: The Meridian in the Middle magazine. Jetton: Yeah, Shelly was thinking that maybe the March and April could be something about the walking tour in that magazine. So, I don't know if maybe you would want to do something that might make it to May, which is kind of the preservation month, which would kind of tie it all together. So, you might want to say Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 12 of 19 something to Shelly because she is kind of a contact person for coming up with ideas for that magazine. Berg: -- contact Shelly and ask for some ideas. Jetton: When the (inaudible) came to our meeting (inaudible) and I thought we were going to be in the January or February because our program was just reminiscing about (inaudible) that we remembered. I thought that was really neat. She was taking notes and everything (inaudible--). Yeah, we got one in the mail yesterday. Thomason: Meridian's Promise. Lindgren: I haven't seen the recent one. Jetton: I think the first issue was a kick off one. But I am just thinking that Shelly needs to be brought in because she was kind of thinking March and April because of weather being nice, but maybe put it back to May or June or something or kind of get everything to work together. Lindgren: Well, I think a May or June because it is preservation month. That would be a perfect time. If we could get with them and let's say we have got five months now, no excuses for this and let's get with them and maybe keep it on low for now. Jetton: Yeah, but Shelly is the one that mentioned that today, so she probably needs to be contacted about it because she is the — Berg: We can give them some ideas. If they have time enough to even do articles for our houses that we have. (Inaudible discussion) Thomason: A question. So Shelly would be a liaison for the city and maybe our group or --? My thought that popped into my head is have a photo of our chairman or the group in front of that building as the latest nomination (inaudible--). Lindgren: Will, can you talk to Shelly? Carol, we can help you but if you don't mind? (Inaudible discussion) Berg: That doesn't exclude the Historical Society either because they wanted to have the history as the main theme. So some of the ideas or whatever might come about and can be incorporated — Thomason: Well, the publicity can certainly be adjoined with events. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 13 of 19 Lindgren: In item number 8 the need for photographs — one thing I know we talked about last time is the photographs for the walking tour. We don't have (inaudible). Tom or Frank or whoever, I even could go out and just spend a couple of hours and get photos taken care of. Berg: I could get the city's camera and take some pictures (inaudible). Lindgren: I would say whatever is on that tour and then, I don't know, if you see something else. (Inaudible discussion) Jetton: I think there was something in the minutes that I was going through — didn't we talk about that last time? Lindgren: Well, I know we talked about it at the last meeting. Yeah, he mentioned (inaudible--). But we do need to get photos and some more shots. If you don't mind, we can move along. Berg: Just another (inaudible). We have the city's monthly news letter and I will see if we can get an article in there about our nomination. Lindgren: One other item on that, I don't know if it is the right time, but we did get the nomination in for (inaudible). (Inaudible discussion) Jetton: I had emailed you something (inaudible), but we had nominated the (inaudible). (Inaudible discussion) Jetton: And so I still have the nomination and the information. She did not get it. Lindgren: Well, we are going to keep pressing this. 9. Update on Sleepy Hollow Farm Project: Lindgren: I have a call into Jim. I haven't talked to him yet, but I understand that something on Craig's List in email that came out and I don't know if that was specific. Harms: I think that it is for sale and to move the old school and they came out with the third school, but it was not the third school because Lila fired off a — Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 14 of 19 Berg: Well, it started out as an email from Leslie Toombs with Ada County — from Craig's List and not saying that she knew what the information was, she just said what is this? And it was unexpected by you or me. I don't — Lindgren: Well, yeah, the last time that I talked to Jim was prior to our last meeting and it sounded like he was still waiting to see what ACHD and everyone else was going to do around him. So the last time I communicated with Jim — I have been in a (inaudible--). I don't want to jump to conclusions here and I don't know what that is all about. But, that is about the extent of that. Harms: And we all decided that the school cannot be moved because it was not in good condition. Berg: Or it wasn't as valuable as — (Inaudible discussion) Jetton: There are just all sorts of problems. It had been moved. Lindgren: The critical structures over there, the double greenery and then the overall (inaudible) structure -- 10. Identify Upcoming Projects for 2008: Berg: Can we just kind of go over some of those things? We wanted (inaudible) the magazine and we will see about incorporating that in May. Then we have the Proclamation in May and then try to do a walking tour in May and anything else? I could make sure that we get it put on the list and I guess I will type out a list — do we want to do a business after hours again? (Inaudible discussion) Harms: Yeah, we got it at the end of April and surprise it is too late. Berg: Maybe that is something that — I know that Tom was doing that, but why don't you call the Chamber and see what they have. I just wanted to kind of — Lindgren: Yeah, there is a — whether it is May or maybe there is a natural fit for us with another group that is already been earmarked. I guess — I think they are already taking calls for 2009 already for after hours? I think our office was going to try and get one — Thomason: Mr. Chairman would it make sense to at least formally prepare for this as a joint effort at least as far as the attendants among all three history groups? The Meridian Magazine thing and for (inaudible--). History Foundation, (inaudible) of Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 15 of 19 Society and HPC and include them even if it just means inviting them to attend whatever the community events are. Lindgren: Yeah, in fact — (Tape turned over) (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: Maybe we could identify what the upcoming (inaudible) groups are and identify those (inaudible--). (Inaudible discussion) Thomason: Mr. Chairman I have a thought. Would it make sense to add to our 2008 list our plans for the New City Hall? Lindgren: There was a meeting for the (inaudible--). Thomason: Yeah, I missed that unfortunately. Were you there? Lindgren: Yeah, I was. Thomason: So that took care of that. Lindgren: And there is some discussion about resource's funds, etcetera, might be available to accommodate — we didn't resolve everything, quite frankly. There is a lot of issues that need to be resolved, meaning what stuff is brought over, how is it archived, how is it presented, how is it secured and all of those things? So a lot of discussion. (Inaudible discussion) Berg: -- more so is how do we want to design? What do we want to do there? (Inaudible--). Probably more set on them than us in as far as making that space what we want it to be, right? (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: I would recommend that maybe we find a little bit of influence (inaudible) and keep them on top of it. As a group they are not meeting monthly so maybe they don't have the momentum that (inaudible--). Harms: (Inaudible--). Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 16 of 19 Berg: I don't know all of the players in that foundation, but I think that is an opportunity to get some resources from and go after that because that is kind of what it was set up for. A way to go after some of these grants and get the money — Harms: (Inaudible--). (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: But again, regardless of when it is (inaudible--) (Inaudible discussion) Berg: I can maybe at least look at how to archive or what items are going to be put down there and what things — there is going to be space (inaudible--) and space down in the basement for records storage. But, there is also space right off of the main front entrance for displays or people coming in and asking information that people can help them try to research. Lindgren: We talked about other secured cases with glass and framed cases or whatever — (Inaudible discussion) Thomason: There is one very important historical photo hanging in the Chambers (inaudible) Centennial Committee of 1993. (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: I think it would be cool if you had a monitor (inaudible--) Harms: (Inaudible--). I want to look at school records or I want to look at this or that. Lindgren: That is the way to do it is electronically. (Inaudible discussion) Harms: Bring these things into storage and use slides as you can and just — (Inaudible discussion) Thomason: That is a great budget item for the next fiscal year. Lindgren: A couple other items, too, is some additional survey work that (inaudible). We can take smaller steps there and (inaudible). So, we can get with Madeline, I think we all feel comfortable with (inaudible). Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 17 of 19 (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: We can. I would like to on the agenda is to really address preservation (inaudible). 11. Current City Applications (Review and Comment): Lindgren: Do we have any applications, Will to review? Harms: No I am excited that we have time to try and put something together. We can't just do everything all at once, but we can do (inaudible--). Lindgren: (Inaudible--). UDC Temporary Use (inaudible). I am not sure if we really need to — Berg: Maybe not, but you may want to (inaudible--) Thomason: Mr. Chairman using your expertise, whether you have any reply, at least it will show that you received it and responded. (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: We could just say — Harms: -- reviewed for comment or recommendation. (Inaudible--) (Inaudible discussion) 12. Next Meeting: Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 5:30 pm Lindgren: Are we okay with the next Thursday meeting? And just as a reminder, if you can make it next Thursday at 5:30 open house. Beer, wine, alcohol, Vodka. Do you have that flyer? Harms: You know I don't. I gave Shelly three of them. Berg: I was just going to say that I could scan that and send it to the members of our committee or I could just make a quick copy of it. (Inaudible discussion) Harms: (Inaudible--) and once you get done with this we want to hand them out to the Idaho Peace Officer's Memorial. They are having a tree lighting and wreath sale that night with hot chocolate — Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 18 of 19 Jetton: On that same night, the 13tn. Harms: Yeah. Thomason: Do you know what time that starts? Harms: I believe that is at seven. (Inaudible discussion) Harms: When is the Chamber meeting --? (Inaudible discussion) Harms: Oh, so we are too late for that. (Inaudible). It kind of came out last minute. We don't have enough people to get things done quickly there either. (Inaudible). But I will get it to some businesses — (inaudible). Put blue lights out there and then they have donated (inaudible--) and the funds all go to scholarships. (Inaudible) and also officers who are no longer able to (inaudible) their responsibilities (inaudible). (Inaudible discussion) Harms: -- and he wanted to apply for a scholarship (inaudible). If we were unable to work or if he were gone his wife could also apply. We are trying to cover that whole (inaudible). (Inaudible discussion) Thomason: Where are you going? Harms: Texas. I have a customer down there. Thomason: Move to adjourn. Harms: Second. Lindgren: All those in favor say aye. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:38 P.M. (TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) Meridian Historic Preservation Commission December 6, 2007 Page 19 of 19 APPROVED; 2.1 7 I 09 WA TE L NDGRE,K-"' HAIRMAN DATE APPROVED �.._._.�� ATTEST: r WILLIAM G. BERG, JR. - CITY CLERK