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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006-06-08Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 1 of 12 City of Meridian Historic Preservation Commission Meeting Meridian City Hall – Mayors Conference Room June 8, 2006 Minutes Lindgren: Okay, let’s call to order the monthly meeting for the Historical Preservation for the City of Meridian. Today is Thursday, June 8, 2006 and the time is 6:10 P.M. 1. Roll-call Attendance: X Walter Lindgren – Chair X Frank Thomason X Tom Hammond – Vice Chair O Carol Harms O Steve Turney X staff – Will Berg 2. Adoption of the Agenda: Lindgren: Has everyone had a chance to review the agenda? Does anybody have any questions? Thomason: Mr. Chairman I move we adopt the agenda as presented. Hammond: Second. Lindgren: Okay, any discussion. Call the question. All those in favor of adopting the agenda. THREE AYES. TWO ABSENT. MOTION CARRIED. 3. Approval of May 4, 2006 Meeting Minutes: Lindgren: Everyone have a chance to look at these? Any questions regarding these minutes? I would entertain a motion to approve these minutes. Hammond: So moved. Thomason: Second. Lindgren: Call the question. All those in favor of approval of the May 4, 2006 meeting minutes? THREE AYES. TWO ABSENT. MOTION CARRIED. 4. Update on Progress of Installing the Historic Sign for the Tolleth House by Walter Lindgren: Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 2 of 12 Lindgren: Will, you probably would know more about this than I do. Would you like to – Berg: Sure. I can give you a quick update as far as the memorial monuments, manufacturing of the base. Robert told me that they had that all completed an d ready to go and he was ready to deliver it whenever we said to. He didn’t want to get paid until he had it delivered and out of his shop. He said it is not a problem with the money. So, I think that the only thing that we need to do is to set up a tim e and get some people over to meet with the Algers and find out where we might want to have it located and touch bases with the Planning Department to find out the requirement of permits (inaudible--). Lindgren: Would you have a chance to talk to Anna about that? Berg: I will talk to Anna in the next day or two and ask her if there is anything that we need to worry about. Lindgren: I mean I can update if we need to put any kind of document together or you know (inaudible--). Once that gets in we want to schedule an inauguration or unveiling. Berg: Introduction to the community – so it is kind of, I guess in our hands as far as getting a figure out on location and meet with the owners and getting the requirements – Thomason: Quick question. Do we need, as a group, to meet with them? I could go by the Algers any given day and ask them to let us know exactly where and get a note maybe from them for us to have to show to someone like the Planning? Or whatever – Lindgren: Yeah. I am fine with th at, if you don’t mind. I am wondering if we can just – even with a spray can because we are going to cut that out anyway and identify with a spray can a location and if anybody has any questions we can – Thomason: Good idea. Then we have them go ahead and mark that and come in and do it. Okay. I will do that in the next couple of days. Lindgren: Maybe I would suggest – let’s find out from Will whether or not (inaudible--). 5. Update on Meridian Chamber of Commerce’s Business After Hours for August 17, 2006 at Finer Frames by Tom Hammond: Hammond: I (inaudible--) and meet there sometime tomorrow after three at her place and we have some pictures here and we I will take those down and they can work their magic. I did talk to her about a month ago about the (inaudible--) and how she is going to do that and she was very receptive to the like “Old Town”, ice cream soda kind of thing (inaudible--). Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 3 of 12 Lindgren: Do I have this correct that she – is she going to essentially buy the frames – I mean, is that something that she is investing her time in? Hammond: That is what I understand. Lindgren: Okay. Are there any other avenues that our group could be involved in with funding or what have you? Hammond: Well, I did talk to her about us paying for the Chamber fee and then she could spend her money on wine or whatever she wants. (Inaudible discussion) Berg: See what that fee is? A hundred dollars? Hammond: Well, it is $75 if it’s a co-sponsor and it’s like $75 for the first one and then it’s like $40 for the second. Berg: Will the Chamber invoice us directly? Hammond: Yeah. Berg: Okay, why don’t we just have that on the next agenda? Hammond: Okay, I will check with Teri tomorrow and have their invoice just sent to you or to City Hall. I will give you a call. I know she said (inaudible--). Lindgren: Tom, if you can remember and it’s no big deal, but could you follow up with me and just say what happened? Hammond: Sure. Berg: Call me and let me know (inaudible--). Lindgren: I think it would be a good idea because she is going to, presumably, or would like to have them completed prior to our next meeting and if that is the case is there an opportunity to bring that to the meeting, the July meeting. Hammond: I am not sure that she (inaudible--) completed and finalized before August, but she wanted to know what she had to do – but, she could have it done before the wedding (inaudible--). This is kind of out of order, but I won’t be here on the 6 th, I will be in a meeting (inaudible--), but I will get it to Will. Berg: Not to say anything about the 6th and getting off the subject, but we may want to talk about when our next meeting (inaudible--). Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 4 of 12 Thomason: I have a quick question. These prints, Lila brought them to you, right ? I was just curious as to – are these prints – Lila brought them to you right? I was just curious as to are these prints that we are expected to buy from her or are these the original prints out of her file that we need to have copied before they are (i naudible--)? Berg: I am not sure and I am not sure that we maybe want to try and find the negatives or prints and blow them up to a regular size. Thomason: They will work fine – I wouldn’t even worry about the negative. They can take those and reproduce those. Lindgren: That is the question is what is the size of these frames? Meg is going to print them, but – Hammond: We can get any size we want and she will mat them and frame them and she will (inaudible--). Lindgren: But, prior to that is it our responsibility to get these things (inaudible--)? Hammond: If you want them bigger? Yes, I would suspect so. Thomason: I just wonder if these are in fact, originals that we need to have copied right? I don’t know. Berg: I don’t think these are for us to use, other than reproduce. I would suggest nothing more than a 3 x 2. I don’t know if you could blow those up too much. But, something like that in overall size and some matting and whatever styling (inaudible --). (Inaudible discussion) Berg: With these postcards or whatever she wants to arrange, I would just leave that up to her and what she wants to do. Lindgren: (Inaudible--). Anybody volunteering to take these – Berg: Where do we need to take them? Thomason: Idaho Camera – do it locally. Do we have a camera place local? We ought to have, you would think. Berg: We do or maybe Meg has an idea, too. Maybe Tom can – Thomason: Locally if possible. Lindgren: If possible, I agree. Tom, would you mind? Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 5 of 12 Hammond: (Inaudible--). Berg: I will get you an envelope. Thomason: You no longer need negatives. They will take the actual photo and they will make their own negative. Lindgren: You may want to – just give you some liberty I guess in terms of design license. At this point it is going to be – too large. Maybe it will help you to figure out big it is in the max. We would like to get them as large as – but, this I think we would like to get them enlarged. This is different. Hammond: And the same size that these are (inaudible). Berg: The other thing that we might be interested to have is something in the framework of telling what that photo is, when it was taken. I find out a lot of times that when you have historic photos – you start with pictures and you don’t know what, who, where is this located or what is the building or when was it taken? Lindgren: Maybe Meg can cut a little window in the matting and share a little (inaudible). Berg: I am just saying it is always kind of nice to have that informati on. Lindgren: But, do you think it’s as much (inaudible--)? Berg: Could be. That one – I was thinking if she puts matting around there then she could insert something there. I just don’t want to loose that because a lot of times the picture gets set around and even put into a building and they like to know what it is and where it is from. Thomason: We want the average person to be able to identify. Berg: I might have to get that information from Lila. She would tell us. Lindgren: Do you think she would know when and where this was taken? Berg: Yes. Thomason: A very good guess, if not. Berg: At least probably a month and a year. Lindgren: Do you think we can get that – like the title and the year? Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 6 of 12 Berg: I will tell you what I will do. I will copy these photos tonight and I will take them to Lila and ask her to you help us out with some description about these and then we can use our own imagination of how we want to incorporate that in there. Lindgren: Right, I think that is good. Even just a small little description. Any other discussion on that? So, you are going to make copies of that before you leave? Can you make copies now and let Tom take the originals home tonight? Berg: Yes. Lindgren: Would that be okay? Berg: Yes. Lindgren: Otherwise, we may not get them (inaudible--). Berg: I will make copies of them so I can get some information on them. 6. Budget / Finance Report: Lindgren: (Inaudible--)? Berg: I didn’t get an updated report, but there weren’t any more a dditional expenses except for the normal monthly (inaudible) we have had. So, really we only have the normal two expenses and I am sorry I didn’t get that out, but I will get it copied and printed out and I will get it emailed to you so you guys all have that. So, we can incorporate into the minutes – Lindgren: I guess I just want to make sure that it addresses with Items 7 and 8 – we just have those items (inaudible--) so we at least have a park figure from the trip. I just want to make sure that we have enough and also that we are spending, too. We might have some additional signage (inaudible--). We may want to review or at least approach these folks (inaudible) in a timely fashion and we may put that (inaudible --). 7. Update on Review of Emily Peeso’s Contract: Lindgren: As prior to you getting here, Tom, I had spoken with Emily today and she has spent some time on starting with this process and she hopes to have some additional time in June (inaudible). She was taking a class, so she has limited time (inaudible). One of her questions was their initial retainer time fee and to review the contract (inaudible), but one thing we do have is more of a monthly basis for her (inaudible). I would at least entertain a motion today that we actually co ntact Emily and have her provide us with an invoice tomorrow and get it faxed to Will or drop it off or what -have- you so that can be put on the agenda for the next week’s City Council. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 7 of 12 Berg: The invoice can be processed this month – going to do it by the tenth. That way she wouldn’t be left holding any expenses for another month. Lindgren: So, I don’t know if you have to do a motion on that or --? Okay, can we just approve her invoice? Thomason: Do you need a motion? So moved. Hammond: Second. Lindgren: Any discussion? Call the order? All those in favor of approving Emily’s invoice? THREE AYES. TWO ABSENT. MOTION CARRIED. 8. Update on the National Historic Preservation Conference in Baltimore, MD by Walter Lindgren: Lindgren: Nothing to really discuss there except the plans are still good to go and – Thomason: When is that again? Lindgren: July 26th. Thomason: Just for the record that I am very delighted and will bring back a lot of useful information. Lindgren: I think this is the one that is to be – Berg: If you could get some information on when the next future ones might be because if there is one that gets closer in the next two or three years that we might want to budget to have a few more people go – Thomason: Yeah, Seattle or Portland. Berg: -- that we kind of time it and I don’t want to be stuck with money in the budget (inaudible--), but I think location is a big factor for trying to get more people to go and the cost could be a lot less and take advantage of t hat. (Inaudible--). Lindgren: Agreed. My guess is that it will be somewhere in the west. Without knowing, I bet they (inaudible--). Berg: That would be important if it is in the west. (Inaudible --). So, maybe see if you could find out – Lindgren: You bet. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 8 of 12 9. Review HPC Fiscal Budget and 2006 Goals on Which to Focus: Lindgren: I am not sure there is much to address there (inaudible --). Thomason: I agree with that. I believe we are well on track. 10. Review of 2007 Goals / Budget Calendar: Lindgren: One thing I still need to do is get our fiscal (inaudible --). Berg: Another thing is what we probably need to look at is what in the future are some of our goals and what may perceive that we want to reach out. I think this thing you are doing at the Chambers is a good example of reaching out and doing something different than we have in the past. These signs for acknowledging these houses are really good. So, what we want to do maybe after that and it may not be next year, even though it says 2007 but you have got to be thinking about it especially if it is costing some money in ways to either ask the city for more money or get some donations or whatever it may be. Another thing to lead into that, also in relationship with the Ada County Historic Preservation Commission – Hammond: I think we need to tag along on like the Dairy Days and maybe next year do something at Dairy Days and things like that. Thomason: When is Dairy Days? Hammond: Next week. Berg: Yes, that is a very good idea. That is another avenue for us to maybe get some historic perspective in the Dairy Days and maybe we need to talk to the Dairy Board and see if there are some things that we can help promote with the Dairy Board to get a joint meeting with them. (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: I remember talking about it last year and going oh, we missed that one. One other item of discussion if I can kind of just sling this is that some time ago, Steve Malone had called me about this log house that is right off of Pine Street. There are two. I think there is a log house that is off of Pine by Locust Grove and what is that other street? It’s where that (inaudible--). Berg: Well, that is Nola. Lindgren: Nola, yeah. Well, I think Steve was asking in r egards of two things. One Emily was mentioned to about this log cabin. There is a like a log structure there. I don’t know – Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 9 of 12 Hammond: Right before – where the turn is? Lindgren: I think it is a little bit south of that turn off. I don’t know what t he significance of that house is or if we have any background on that house, I guess, but for one Emily was asking about the background and I told her I don’t know. The other one is that the house that is on the corner that Steve had mentioned, I guess, A CHD has a plan to make (inaudible--). But, I don’t know if there is any significance or if we have Emily break off as part of our survey just to survey that structure as an addition to – I don’t know – he seemed real concerned about it, but to be honest with you I don’t know if there is any historical – Thomason: I suggest we ask the Historical Society and Lila for their opinion. That would be a good short cut and see if they think there is any value to this. Lindgren: It is so heavily treed back th ere it is hard to even see that house back there. So, I miss it every time I go by there. I don’t know the history behind or anything. Berg: Well, I think Frank has got a good point that before we send Emily that direction let’s see what our other resources has and get some opinions and then maybe we can at least pass that on to Emily to see if it is an idea to pursue or not. I don’t want to lose the opportunity to do something. Thomason: You are right, Will, that extension is going right through t here. Berg: Pine Avenue. Lindgren: Steve was really concerned about it and I am not sure I really understand the concern if that house is – Thomason: Yeah, at this time I am not aware of any historical, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t. Lindgren: I can follow up with Lila on that and just find out. Berg: Frank is going to see her tonight, just briefly. Lindgren: Could you ask that question and what they may know about that? Thomason: Sure, would be glad to. (Inaudible discussion) Berg: Just a reminder that you are all invited to this year’s City Picnic and you need to let me know if you can attend so that we can get a count to Shelly Houston – Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 10 of 12 Thomason: If you haven’t been, it is a great time. Berg: This is a city picnic and one of your big rewards and benefits of volunteering your time on this commission is going to this event. Hammond: I missed my Turkey this year. I forgot to get my turkey. Berg: We have got something else besides a turkey if you want it. (Inaudible discussion) Thomason: This sounds like even more fun because there are games and – Berg: What I do need to get from you is a count if you are coming so we can make sure that we have enough food and – Thomason: Put me down. Hammond: Do I need to email you? Berg: You can and that will remind me. We can do that. Just take it home to your family and then let me know. Thomason: So, is this next meeting set for the – Lindgren: July 6th. Hammond: I will be out of town. Berg: I may be out of town. Thomason: We can reset it if we need to Mr. Chairman. Berg: I can send out an email and ask people and how many can make it on the 6 th or the 13th. Lindgren: Does it have to be a Thursday? Berg: Well, our normal schedule that we published and we put that out there, so all I have to do is a special notice that we are going to do something different. Lindgren: Well, the reason I ask that is because it is an invoice situation – you know for Emily and it would be nice to have a quorum and we could give her an invoice prior to the tenth or whatever day it might be. So, even it is a (inaudible--). Berg: Well, and you know we could maybe do that in the last week of June. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 11 of 12 Lindgren: That is fine, too. Berg: I will send out an email and see if people can meet the 29th. Lindgren: Well, the schedule issues were like Thursdays were just – because you are probably like every night there is a different meeting. Berg: But that is another valid point too that maybe we could meet sometime on a Thursday prior to Historic Society’s function and go to it afterwards. Right now I didn’t realize they have an (inaudible), but it may be a good time to plan that if we knew that that was an event. They meet on the second Thursday and we meet on the firs t Thursday. They just happen to line up, but you know it would kind of be a good thing to do. Not to say you have to meet as a group, but just have our meeting (inaudible) and do whatever their functions – from a slide presentation to (inaudible --) or whatever – or maybe we could give them a record of what our Commission is doing and some of those older people (inaudible) Historic Society sometimes think that we are not doing anything. Thomason: That is not a bad idea. Berg: They do have pretty good cookies, though. But, that might be something to think about, too. Summer might not be a good time to do it. Thomason: Yeah, people are busy they are going on vacations. Berg: But, maybe that might be something to look at in the future to meet on the Thursday that they are meeting and they could (inaudible). Lindgren: That would be great. (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: I would entertain a motion to adjourn. Thomason: Second. Lindgren: All those in favor. THREE AYES. TWO ABSENT. MOTION CARRIED. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:35 P.M. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission June 8, 2006 Page 12 of 12 APPROVED: _______________________________ _____|_____|_____ WALTER LINDGREN - CHAIRMAN DATE APPROVED ATTEST: _______________________________ WILLIAM G. BERG, JR. - CITY CLERK