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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006-04-06Meridian Historic Preservation Commission April 6, 2006 Page 1 of 17 City of Meridian Historic Preservation Commission Meeting Meridian City Hall – Mayors Conference Room April 6, 2006 Minutes Lindgren: We will go ahead and call to order the monthly Historic Preservation Commission for April 6, 2006 and it is almost six o‟clock now. We will go through roll call. Tom Hammond is apparently running a little bit late and I know that Carol is not going to be here tonight and our staff Will Berg is present as always. 1. Roll-call Attendance: X Walter Lindgren – Chair X Frank Thomason O Tom Hammond – Vice Chair O Carol Harms X Steve Turney X staff – Will Berg 2. Adoption of the Agenda: Lindgren: Has anybody had the chance to review the agenda and does anybody have any questions or like to – Turney: Mr. Chair I would like to make a motion to approve the meeting minutes as published. Thomason: Second. Lindgren: Call to question. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. 3. Approval of February 2, 2006 Meeting Minutes: Lindgren: Approval of February 2, 2006 meeting minutes. Oh, that is probably March isn‟t it? Berg: No, we didn‟t do the minutes last month because we had a problem with a quorum, we had a presentation and so we didn‟t do really anything on the agenda except for finish the presentation and they said let‟s table everything. Lindgren: Oh yeah, that is right. We didn‟t even approve the minutes, did we? Berg: So, that is why that day is on there and the other one will be on there, but I am trying to get everything we can from Steve Malone, is that his name that did the presentation? So, this is still from two months ago. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 2 of 17 Lindgren: Okay. Do you want to take a minute just to approve this if you haven‟t already? Thomason: Mr. Chairman the only correction I would suggest is that on page 8 we have – we just need to correct the spelling of Mark‟s – I believe it is B-a-l-t-e-s and here it is just spelled phonetically, which isn‟t any big deal, but just for the record maybe we should correct that. Lindgren: That is how you spell his name, yes, that is correct. Thomason: And if you are just listening to the tape that is what you hear phonetically, so that is not that big of a deal. Otherwise I think it is fine. These minutes are fine just like a standard format and it is fine with me. I like th em. It takes a little longer to go through them, but on the other hand you get the full flavor of it. Lindgren: Again, as long as your staff is comfortable in preparing them this way that is – has it taken up much of your time? Berg: No. Thomason: You have an excellent staff by the way. Lindgren: Would anyone like to entertain a motion? Turney: Mr. Chair I would like to make a motion to approve the February 2, 2006 meeting minutes. Thomason: Second. Lindgren: Any discussion? Call to question. All those in favor. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. 4. Follow Up and Feedback on Emily Peeso’s Historic Registered Structures’ Presentation to the Meridian Chamber of Commerce Luncheon on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 by Tom Hammond: Lindgren: Did you all get the emails of the Power Point Presentation from Emily? Berg: You do have it in your packet of the slides so that you would have it. That is supposedly the presentation that she presented to go to Chamber. Lindgren: Yes. Actually, I am sorry can I go back one step here? Do you want to send this copy (inaudible)? Yeah, I thought that those of you that did attend that Emily did a great job in sending the project and really the Power Point Presentation as you can see is just really well done. I mean it is exceptional. We do have, I guess, the proper Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 3 of 17 archive of that document and we all have it on our personal computers, but I wonder if there is a way that we can some how get that into – I don‟t know where it belongs. I am not sure I understand where it went. Thomason: Should it be (inaudible) to the minutes with the days --? I don‟t know. Lindgren: Oh, the electronic copy I guess then. We have a hard copy here and that is fine, but – Berg: Mr. Chairman, I was going to put the hard copy in the minutes as part of the record. I could copy the Power Point Presentation on a disc and put it in our stuff. I will always have it electronically under my Historic Preservation Commission. Lindgren: I would recommend doing that. Obviously, a Powe r Point Presentation is not fully served (inaudible--). I think for the record (inaudible). Thomason: I agree with your comments, she did an excellent job; very well prepared, I think it affected well upon our group on the work that we provide and promo te. I think it was well received and that was my impression of that. Lindgren: Yeah, exactly. The other thing about it is I think we are only two of three in the State – there were only three structures that were registered this year or – and two of them in Meridian. Or maybe there might have been a fourth. Thomason: That brings to six the number that we have. So, that actually increased our (inaudible--) a fraction, but – four to six. Lindgren: Again, we say this every month, but I think our ta sk is to now let the public know about it and we will get them done (inaudible). Anything else on that? Anyone else want to add anything to that or any comments? Okay, let‟s move on. 5. Update on Meridian Chamber of Commerce’s Business After Hours in August 17, 2006 at Finer Frames by Tom Hammond: Lindgren: We will go ahead and make a motion to go ahead and table – can we, Will? We will just go ahead and table that until Tom gets here. Berg: Sure. Hammond: I talked to Meg Ryan a few weeks ago and – Lindgren: How is she doing? Hammond: Actually Meg Peters. She is getting married in July (inaudible) pretty much finalized by the first of June, so (inaudible --). So, (inaudible--). Anyway, just to kind of Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 4 of 17 go over some of the things – she has a great (inaudible---). She takes pictures of the (inaudible--) – Lindgren: Are these photos that Lila has or where are these photos coming from or at least the prints? Berg: My understanding is we had (inaudible) purchase them from the Historic Society. Lindgren: The Historic Society has them? Thomason: Yeah, they are over there across the street in the Historic Society. Berg: I don‟t remember how expensive they are to get them, but I am sure it depends on if you blow them up or reduce or whatever they have. Lindgren: Are you purchasing a small print for them or what are you purchasing? Thomason: Prints of varying sizes, some of them pretty large. My guess is that you should need (inaudible) for processing – Hammond: The History Center (inaudible) some research there and thought (inaudible) $20 for the copy and it took two weeks, so it takes some time to get it done. Lindgren: But when you pick something from the Historic Society are you buying the larger – are they going out and making the print for you? They have a copy made for you? Hammond: Yeah. Lindgren: Okay. So, we might want depending upon the cost, we might want to look at varying sizes or – I don‟t know what our budget is. This can come out of this group‟s budget cycle to purchase those? Hammond: I believe so. Lindgren: There is no issue there? Hammond: Not if we have money in the budget. (Inaudible discussion) Hammond: And the other thing that we can‟t – if we just split them and the cost with her and that makes maybe (inaudible--). We could pay that (inaudible). Lindgren: Technically we couldn‟t. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 5 of 17 Turney: So, if we purchase these photos and then she frames them and then auction them off and then give them the money (inaudible --). Lindgren: -- a legitimate piece of money, funds, time and effort. Berg: I think we also talked about getting whatever amount of photos and get them framed or whatever and use them for other events that we can at least draw attention to. I think it is an outreach that we should have, you know auction them off, raffle them off depending on what kind of costs you have, but I think maybe we need to get some kind of (inaudible) idea of what kind of photos we can and create a theme or if it is to enhance what we are doing with the group of these houses or just whatever you want to do. Lindgren: Are we talking about a half dozen or are we talking --? Berg: I think it depends on the cost. Turney: Well and how many is she willing to bring? Berg: Let‟s look at it this way. If we have her do five of them and the sixth one is hers to keep that might enhance her gallery of what she can show she can do. We also talked about having a caption of what or description of what that photo is and a little history about (inaudible) the matting or framing process. (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: Again this is all above (inaudible) in terms of purchasing photos and having Meg donate her framing and then auctioning those off for some charity work or whatever. Hammond: That money from that charity would be the frame, final frames and (inaudible--). That is okay because it gets our name out there and it gets awareness out there (inaudible). Lindgren: I just want to make sure that judicially we are doing it right. Berg: You know there are some other things to look at. When is this? Lindgren: August 17th. Berg: There might be some things happening by the time August comes around that you may want half the auction donation things going to another project that might be happening. (Inaudible discussion) Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 6 of 17 Berg: But I think the very idea is that Meg is a very strong supporter of the Boys and Girls Club and she is putting some of that work that she is doing into that. So, that would be – Lindgren: Look at our expenditure verses what we have. I mean it is – Thomasson: We have it. Lindgren: If it is a $100 bucks or something like that – Thomasson: (Inaudible--) or a couple hundred. Lindgren: Well exactly, I don‟t know how – I mean I appreciate what you are saying. Thomasson: Well, it is like what Tom said we have to be mindful of Meg‟s time and the number (inaudible). Lindgren: Well, this next week is that going to be too late for us to decide on photos and what have you? Because we will need to make it weeks. Hammond: We already had an idea and if we can get some copies of the photos – you know there are post cards that they had. Some of those are blown up very big, but they are post cards – just to look at. Thomasson: There is a little set of post cards. Berg: Yeah, how many is in that set because Lila said that we could get our hands on those post cards and there could be collage or something – Lindgren: Can somebody track those images down and --? Turney: I will get those from Lila. She was the one that was ahead of all that stuff. Lindgren: Whether or not you are going to be here in the May meeting? Could you possibly track those down and maybe leave them with Will? Could you do that? Turney: Okay. Hammond: Are we looking at certain photos or every photo? Turney: I think certain ones and there is a lot of them that already have been blown up and circulated around (inaudible--). Some of the banks have them, so it has been done before. Hammond: I am wondering, Mr. Chair, when we go to this (inaudible) to get the photos and we find the right photos that we want to promote and whether they have the right Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 7 of 17 feel that we like that we will decide how many photos we get and perhaps that is ten, maybe it is 20, maybe it is 15 and then we do it with the frame and say okay how many of these are you willing to frame up and which one would you like to frame up, but the rest of them are ours for other events that we can frame and auction. Lindgren: And if you want to purchase a bulk – Hammond: Well, I am just suggesting – if we pull this photo and they take the effort to make a copy of it, five copies is going to be easier than making just two and then coming back a year later and saying okay two more. I am just thinking that since we have the funds here that we have those available to us and the year so that if something comes up we have two weeks to respond and we can say yeah we can donate a framed photo. Lindgren: So, do we agree that for May‟s meeting, I can go ahead and invite (inaudible) if you want to (inaudible--)? Turney: It doesn‟t matter. Lindgren: Would you invite her to the May meeting? Turney: Sure (inaudible) I will invite her. That is fine. Lindgren: And then what I would propose is at that meeting, too, is have those options for photos and discuss with Meg what she can do. What we can do so we can get a better feel for it and at that time we can off line right after that May meeting is get those ordered because we are going to need those – my fear is to wait until June and then she is missing. It just starts getting too late. Do you guys agree with that? Hammond: Sure. I think that if we know what she must do then we can plan around that. I am going to do these and I won‟t need these until August the first. Lindgren: (Inaudible--) at least ten we will look at. What do you think? Hammond: It would be nice to have a standard size so we don‟t have a bunch of different – and a standard size that you can get a frame at a decent price. You know there are standard sizes. If we get something like that it would keep the costs down and for other framing opportunities (inaudible--). Lindgren: Then again there is nothing stopping us from (inaudible--) purchase a frame if we felt like – again, it‟s just outreach. Okay, thanks. 6. Update on Progress on Historic Sign (Tolleth House) by Walter Lindgren: Lindgren: (Inaudible--) did a fantastic job on this. I think our next stop personally is to we will get back in contact with Gwen, the owner of the property and try to arrange a Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 8 of 17 process here to get a little bit of concrete and some sort of base for this to work from and try to organize a – whatever you want to call it – a ribbon cutting – Thomason: I suggest “unveiling”. Lindgren: Yeah, unveiling for the public and the paper obviously with Frank‟s help. Thomason: Yes. Lindgren: I think that is probably a product of how quickly we can get – (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: If – we will – I think we are waiting for (inaudible). Berg: Are we needing to set the concrete or does it need to be bolted? Lindgren: Yeah, I think it needs to be bolted. Berg: So we could get a pad poured and then just make sure they are (inaudible). I think of a (inaudible--) is there any recommendation? Lindgren: We will talk to Mark again and I think it would, you know we would just – Turney: I think what we talked about before was a little bit bigger than an anchor and then double edges and probably coming up. We talked about it not coming out of the ground very tall above, just like an anchor to it. Lindgren: Yeah, I am wondering if the concrete just is down played because you have the legs, so if you could just – I mean I would like it to be clean form, but – Turney: As minimal as we can. But, what we talked about was because of th e narrowness of the space, if we like anchored it here and here with a piece of concrete and then trimming (inaudible--) so it would be a nice piece of concrete or (inaudible) grade level so you know all we need is the trim. Thomason: Is that a wrought iron base or is that --? Turney: It is steel. Thomason: I think the date of 1907 is – I don‟t know what they call that, but it is just gorgeous. Someone driving by could see that. Lindgren: It sets the standard. Thomason: Better than I thought it would be. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 9 of 17 (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: I would like to state for the record the invoice for my market impressions are real low and I will go ahead and hand that to you if it is okay in the amount of $1,207 and cents. Let me confirm what that is covering. It is the custom porcelain enamel, 12 x 18 sign, (inaudible) bronzed frame and (inaudible) cut, steel (inaudible) outer coated. The design layout and print for (inaudible) so that is $18.44 less $922 and that is with the deposit on that we – we paid them half, I guess. Turney: So, we could get one of those from another – from out of state? Lindgren: The deposit that we paid back in October 15, 2005 so the balance of that. What we also did was ordered five additional signs because it was an economy scale here to purchase basically the outer trimming, artwork and that sort of thing and so basically any other subsequent house or as we deem appropriate, there is other potential projects for the discussion of this group, I guess. Thomason: So, our total cost is going to be the $1,207 plus the $922? Unless there is any further discussion I will make a motion to approve the payment, I guess. Turney: Second. Lindgren: Any discussion? Call to question. All those in favor. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. Lindgren: Where do we want to take the next step here with this? Do we want to approach the other two more recent? Well (inaudible --) it is one of us out of town. The Neal house. He at least has shown some interest and I think getting s omething like that in front that person would (inaudible--) is my opinion and so – Berg: There is a couple of things you can look at to approach this is when we have this all mounted and done and in place and invite them to this unveiling and say this is what we want to do and they see the final project and they see how it may incorporate into their place. Or, approach it right now and say – Lindgren: Yeah. If this unveiling can happen in short order, I would rather wait for that. I think you would get more bang out of that, but – (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: Oh, you bet. The problem is that (inaudible) activities tend to take three months, four months. I would like to at least get moving on some of these other guys because I think (inaudible) has got the product now. She has got it home now (inaudible) getting an image in the (inaudible) that can roll right into that (inaudible). Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 10 of 17 Turney: (Inaudible--), but this (inaudible) something as an example and people can see that this is tastily done and I would be happy to have it. How do we do that, Mr. Chair? We have to get the notice out so that we have people there and an actual ceremony. Lindgren: Would the Valley Times be instrumental in that? Turney: Get the concrete out – with that ceremony, would we go in as a committee and pick that base and put the concrete and anchor it and come back and have a ceremony after that has been done. Lindgren: Well, that is a question. Are we going to do this or do we just want to get a contractor friend or you know who is going to --? I have dug post holes and I have poured in post (inaudible) but it is never very clean, I will say that. Berg: Well, if you are wanting to finish concrete then you are going to want somebody that knows what they are doing. Turney: That is what I would think. We want quality and we don‟t want it messed up and have it done right. Lindgren: I can approach one or two contractors in town here that would donate their time. I think I could swing that. Thomason: And mention that we will give them (inaudible --). Lindgren: I certainly think there is certainly folks out there that would be willing to do that. Very good. Any other discussion on that? I guess – I will make that contact and see if we can‟t get that implemented and I will contact Gwen here pretty shortly. I just got this yesterday from Mark, so as soon as we can get that out then we will talk about a schedule, but (inaudible--). (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: We will go back to number 5, Mr. Tom Hammond. 7. Follow Up on Preservation Plan for Ada County Presentation by Steve Malone of Ada County Historic Preservation Council: Lindgren: For those of you that weren‟t here it was real interesting I thought. Berg: I did mail out the booklet that he gave us to the people that couldn‟t be here. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 11 of 17 Lindgren: Just as a resource for us to even figure out where to go. Having the right question to ask is knowing the right people to be asking those questions. Anything else on that? Berg: No, I didn‟t know if we needed to discuss anything more other than they are in the process of putting that plan together. Lindgren: That is right. It is a working document. Berg: The last draft or whatever because I know that there were some blank things in there. But, you know there is somewhere maybe that we could incorporate our niche into that county plan, which would help preserve some of the ir concepts of the community stretching out. Lindgren: Let me make sure if I understand what you are saying. Berg: Well, do we need to start developing a plan right now or putting some things together? I mean that is – Lindgren: Well, if I understood – Steve has done a lot of the homework for us, really so it is a matter of extracting that (inaudible), which is very valuable. I think that is the purpose and putting a plan for the county as well. In terms of anything that we could be adding to that document, I am not sure of anything that I could think of. Anybody else? Hammond: I wonder if we take that document and go to school on it and then do something similar for the Meridian Preservation Plan for Meridian (inaudible). Lindgren: I think we can certainly take that up (inaudible --) for sure. But everybody does have a copy? Moving right along. 8. Budget / Finance Report: Lindgren: Well, it is really helpful to see this. This is great. Berg: It is not the up to date one, if you noticed it is February 6 th, but the only real costs that we have had is the monthly (inaudible) that we do for the (in audible) Society and that is because it is kind of (inaudible--) as long as it is budgeted then it doesn‟t affect (inaudible). I guess the thing that I wanted to help motivate is what we are going to need for the next year and do some planning and stuff. But, if you notice on one of the line items it has been budgeted to (inaudible) for January public awareness (inaudible). That could be easily one of them or this. Lindgren: The other thing is, I think, that seminar and we probably want to get ahead of them because that is coming up really quickly. I am more than comfortable if somebody else wants to attend that. My year is just getting too crazy right now to even look that Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 12 of 17 far ahead. So, as many of you – you guys might be in the same boat, but I think weren‟t you entertaining that? (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: I think it would be great to do for somebody. Somebody – Frank, Steve – you know I just want to open that up to discussion, which is something you might entertain. I have to check if it is the end of May or the end of June. I can‟t remember which one it was. That is quickly approaching, it would be nice if somebody interested that we get plane tickets to that. I could – Berg: Is there another one? I mean, I know that is a majo r one, but is there some other ones that --? Lindgren: There are, but that is the appropriate one from what I understand. I haven‟t got a tentative yet. Berg: I know, but the timing of it I am just curious if there is another one before – maybe September may not be as far (inaudible--). I was just asking. Lindgren: Can I just say this. If it‟s the end of May, I would not be able to. If it is the end of June that might work better. But, if it‟s the end of May, the problem is we are in April right now. I think it would be nice to be getting arrangements addressed and that sort of thing. Is there any other interests other than you guys that --? Thomasson: I just simply can‟t get away. Is there any chance any of you guys? Turney: Well, I haven‟t really looked at my schedule because as the new individual on the Commission (inaudible--) seniorities, so I really have to look at the schedule. Lindgren: Is this something you might be interested in? Turney: I think it would be wonderful, absolut ely. I have never even put that in a possibility because I thought (inaudible--). Lindgren: Do we think it is a good idea to have someone – I mean can I present this? If it is – I have some personal arrangements because of the end of May would be just too challenging. If it is the end of June, I might be able to make that. I would like to go. Do we still think it is a good idea? Thomasson: Absolutely. Lindgren: Is that a proper way to spend our funding? Thomasson: Absolutely. I agree. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 13 of 17 (Inaudible discussion) Lindgren: Let me look at it again. Could I communicate with you guys (inaudible) and then let you guys know? If it is May, somebody else needs to do it. Turney: Just for the record, I would not feel comfortable going if someone el se (inaudible--). Lindgren: Duly noted. Then memberships and site surveys. In fact, I had an email from Emily and I just got it today, so I haven‟t had a chance to really look at it. Do we want to engage Emily in doing that survey work? I think she has, if I remember correctly, has a bit of more work to be done in the downtown core. (Inaudible discussion) Hammond: Will was going to take a look at that in modifying verses a new contract every year, but it sounded like in the minutes that just continuing that is (inaudible). Lindgren: Yeah, he has copied these, so I guess he would knew we would be talking about this and actually we will just role into number nine because that is really the segway. 9. Update on Review of Emily Peeso’s Contract: Lindgren: You got the contract and I appreciate you getting those to us. What can you tell us about the preference of the city or attorney or whom ever might be the one to look at this as to whether we extend her current agreement or begin a new contract for surveying? Berg: Walt, I went through these last month or a month and one half ago to kind of look at them a little bit close to see if there is some wording or such that we could extend it and I don‟t remember and (inaudible), but I did ask the att orneys to look at it and they haven‟t gotten back to me. I am sure there is another (inaudible) on there, but we want to do what the best thing is to do in legal and if there is a way to extend it to continue some work, I think that would be great. We modified these if you noticed to change some dates and (inaudible--) from ‟05 and then it went to (inaudible) – Lindgren: Well, if I may, I wonder if it makes sense that we establish a new contract that is essentially drafted. I mean there is probably little to amend on this in terms of the language, so I think the negotiations fees is little or none. I think what we discussed is to set up a yearly kind of a general service and agreement of some sort. Just because I see an amendment to the revised amendment to the amendment to the amendment – it gets a little confusing. I wonder if that makes sense. I just wanted to throw that out for discussion because it seems to me that the pain is in negotiating and coming to terms, but those terms have all been arrived at. Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 14 of 17 Berg: It just depends on the scope of work (inaudible --) and to be done and of course, you know that everyone has these other rules that they have to follow. Lindgren: Well, if it is under a certain amount, I don‟t think – that is not an issue, is that correct because of the contract amount? You can engage in a consultant without – you understand what I am saying? Berg: Yes. You just may want to be concerned about is if the scope of work describes specifically what we wanted, if it is too general from what we did here do we have to go through the process of selection again? But, like I said those are questions I want to ask to make sure of. To the common person, these seem like you just are wanting to carry it on and move forward. (Inaudible--) common folk language. But, I will check that restructuring another contract verses amending one. I will check that. If it would be nice and clean to do a new one and get the right things in order. Lindgren: I think your concern is having that scope creep, is that the idea? Berg: Well, you went through a selection process to initially hire her, so – Lindgren: Which I am not sure we were required to, I thought it was just more out of due diligence, I think at least I believe that was the case. Berg: Usually for more large projects, we include the interviews and some of them are like RFP‟s or RFQ‟s. Lindgren: How do you define a large project? With the dollar amount? Berg: They are some dollar amounts, but some of them are political and r eferences to make sure you do them properly as far as in good will and using the money in fairness and a lot more parties that might be involved or anyone that wants to plan part of it. Lindgren: Is that something that you would be able to confirm with u s because I am just reading through the general language of this amendment that is dated June 21 st date. I think I believe this amendment was to – this was to kick her off the constant survey. The language in there says that this could be used as the gen eral contract for her next one and we can define that scope. You know, in fact it could probably be exactly what we have here, you know, including the less than 25 properties at a rate of – and we will confirm that rate to make sure that that is – or that she is comfortable with that. Berg: That sounds – I will make sure I discuss this with the attorneys at the next meeting and (inaudible) we can have it ready to go. Lindgren: Any other discussion on that? 10. Review HPC Fiscal Budget and 2006 Goals on Which to Focus: Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 15 of 17 Berg: We kind of had that on there Walt just to get us in gear and we talked about even having a separate meeting just to go over what our goals and aspirations are just so you can concentrate on that at the meeting and not all th e other work. So, I just added that so you know that that is just kind of at the very end of the agenda. Lindgren: I think keeping it on the agenda for each month is a good reminder. I am not sure I have anything to add about it today, but – Berg: And that is for the 2006 goals. That means that are we accomplishing what we wanted to do this year because this year is actually coming to an end. So, the next item on the agenda is feeling what we want to do next year and making sure I have enough money budgeted and presented to the Finance Director and so that is not going to be an issue. Lindgren: When is the budget review? Berg: Going backwards – our budget presentations are in July, middle of July to the Council, but then going back and back and somewhere I think one of the – the last thing is to submit some things is in the first part of May. They start cutting and pasting and (inaudible) and in some cases some people get to add. But, you know what I am saying because it is getting to be more and more of a process to try and just so okay, how much money do we have? What are the wants and needs? Lindgren: In addition to that concern is spending the money wisely is to spend the money and that (inaudible--) and again, wisely. All the more reason I think to get this situation (inaudible---). Some of these other items and I think that as we approach May I think that we will at least have our eye on expenditures and say we are on track to getting this money spent. But, I feel like (inaudible--). Berg: There are some manuals that are completed and due to the Council in the middle of May, so I think some of these things have to – the departments have to have their base budgets and information by June 1st and enhancements have to be done by the middle of May (inaudible). So, it is that first part of May that we really need to get something. If we dedicate that sometime between now and that first part of May to look into to see if or what we wanted to do differently, I could sure submit that, to o. That is not saying it is final, but that it is the best guess that we have at this time. Lindgren: Anything else on that? Well if you could find out. I think that is important to get her (inaudible). Like I said I just got the email. Any other business? (Speaker unknown): Did Emily give you any detail on how she felt about the presentation with Chamber luncheon or was she scared to death? Berg: She was and she said she was over prepared and she had a lot more information to give than what she had time to give, but I think it gave a seed in some of those Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 16 of 17 business people and residences that live downtown in the core, especially with what we want to do. Turney: The only (inaudible--) people‟s eyes were glazing over until she got into what we were done and the how and the structures then it was like “oh yeah”. Lindgren: Yeah, it was too much, I think time to time management of the whole thing was challenging because you had people eating and then people‟s schedules at 1:00 was here and gone. (Inaudible discussion) Berg: So, it is just a question as far as our budget and what we want Emily to continue to do this fiscal year. Lindgren: Yes. I would like to get that started if that is possible. I assume that we can do this fairly quickly because like I said it is (inaudible). If we follow this format, it would be about $2,500. Berg: Yeah, the last amendment – initial funds, (inaudible) and apparently that bill must have been turned in (inaudible--), but I will find that out. So, yeah, we are – that is like 22 left or something like that, but that would get her started to get some other things done. You know, if nobody is able to go to the conference, you will have a little money that we can maybe push in that direction if you have so many projects to go. Lindgren: I will still shoot for it, if that‟s okay with you. I would like to get on. (Inaudible discussion) Thomasson: See what you can do. That would be great. Berg: You know, I know I mentioned this, but something to loo k at is some of these other little ones that maybe are easier to get to or maybe a variety these Commissioners to get to a little closer. (Tape turned over) Berg: But you want to bring back to the Commission and to the community what other places are doing or ideas or concepts that we should be implementing here. It would be great to go to Boston, I am just saying that if it doesn‟t work out and there are some other things that maybe we can look at and go. There is a couple of things in Oregon – a few years back – Lindgren: Well, we went to the one in Portland, but it was a lot of extraneous stuff that I was – am I in the right – you know, I am sitting in the right convention? I mean some Meridian Historic Preservation Commission March 2, 2006 Page 17 of 17 stuff did apply, but it went way beyond our scope. (Inaudib le--). It is not applicable (inaudible) what you want to check out I am sure. (Speaker unknown): I think it is Baltimore. Thomasson: I have been to Baltimore a few years and they did a wonderful job during the (inaudible) city harbor area back in the „70‟s. Berg: Does the State of Idaho hold any conferences or anything in that nature that you may want to go? There is always local or further regional or national through Idaho State. Lindgren: I can check into that. Berg: I mean, if it is just a day or two (inaudible) you can plan ahead and take a day off of work and go to it. Lindgren: I will entertain a motion to – Hammond: I move we adjourn. Turney: Second. Lindgren: Call to question. All those in favor. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED. 11. Review of 2007 Goals / Budget Calendar: MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:46 P.M. APPROVED: _______________________________ _____|_____|_____ WALTER LINDGREN - CHAIRMAN DATE APPROVED ATTEST: _______________________________ WILLIAM G. BERG, JR. - CITY CLERK