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Machelle Hill
From:Suzanne Steenkolk <slsteenkolk@gmail.com>
Sent:Wednesday, December 07, 2016 10:47 AM
To:mayortammy; citycouncil; Machelle Hill
Subject:Firenze Plaza development - ACHD hearing 12/14/16 and P&Z hearing 12/15/16
Attachments:Tuscany ACHD 12-5-16 .docx
Hello Mayor Tammy and Council Members,
Please see the attached letter and pictures I sent to ACHD and P&Z members regarding the Firenze Plaza
development, which numerous residents are opposing in the Tuscany Subdivision.
Thank you for your time in considering my comments and supporting us in rejecting extending our side streets
into this proposed development.
Sincerely,
Suzanne Steenkolk
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From: Suzanne Steenkolk <slsteenkolk@gmail.com >
Date: Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:42 AM
Subject: Firenze Plaza development - ACHD hearing 12/14/16 and P&Z hearing 12/15/16
To: bwong@achdidaho.org , kgoldthorpe@achdidaho.org , chood@meridiancity.org , jbeach@meridiancity.org ,
tamara@thelandgroupinc.com , mwallace@achdidaho.org , Suzanne Steenkolk < slsteenkolk@gmail.com >
Dear Mr. Wong, Mr. Goldthorpe, Ms. Wallace, Mr. Hood, Mr. Beach and Ms. Thompson,
Please see the attached letter and pictures (at the end of the letter) outlining my concerns of extending Tuscany
subdivision streets into the proposed Firenze Plaza, along with my concerns of not improving roads on S. Eagle
Rd and E. Amity for four years.
Tamara, could you please forward this to the gentleman representing Albertsons that attended last nights
meeting at Siena school as well? I'd also like him to have visibility to my concerns but did not have his contact
information.
Thank you for reading my comments and for your active response.
Sincerely,
Suzanne Steenkolk
slsteenkolk@gmail.com
October 25, 2016
City Clerk’s Office
City of Meridian
33 E. Broadway Ave
Meridian, ID 83642
RE: Firenze Plaza CPAM AZ PP H-2016-0102 requesting Amendment to the
Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use map, Annexation and Zoning
Dear Planning and Zoning:
I am writing in regards to the application H-2016-0102 (Firenze Plaza) planned development
being proposed on the corner of S. Eagle Rd and Amity Rd., Meridian, ID for the November 3,
2016 Planning and Zoning meeting. The following are my concerns to amending the
Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map and allowing for portions of the property to be
commercially zoned, along with strong objections in extending Mount Etna into the
development.
I am a resident of the Tuscany subdivision and homeowner on E. Mount Etna Drive. Our family
searched for over a year for the right community to build our next home and raise our children.
We moved across town and 20 minutes further away from our jobs in order to reap the benefits
of this family-friendly residential community. We were drawn to Tuscany because every time we
drove through the subdivision, we noticed SO MANY kids and their families playing in their front
yards, families interacting with neighbors along the streets, the beautiful landscape, city park,
aesthetics and upscale homes. We understood at that time that development was progressing
in the surrounding area but were never expecting, nor find it acceptable to live next to a
commercial property.
The proposal to change the adjacent property from Low Density Residential to Commercial with
a grocery store, bank, gas station, fast food and shopping center will significantly and adversely
impact the dynamics the current residential community. Proposing to build a commercial
shopping center, which as I understand, hours of operation to be 5am to 1am where vendors,
delivery drivers and consumers will frequent the location at minimum 20- 24 hrs/day makes no
sense at all in this area. This will attract volumes of traffic, negative noise from delivery trucks,
vendors and consumers, and distracting overhead shopping center lighting, where residential
homes and neighborhoods 360 surround. Furthermore, research shows that residential housing,
along with schools and elderly care homes should not be located next to gas stations for health
reasons. Siena Elementary is located in Tuscany, Hillsdale Elementary is located directly across
the street on Amity and S. Eagle Rd., an elderly care facility just down Amity Rd and of course
residential housing all the way around the planned development. See a
few, of many, articles and proven research noted here, reporting that housing near gas stations
is known to be linked to cancer and leukemia:
“Study co author Marta Doval, said: Some airborne organic compounds - such as
benzene, which increases the risk of cancer - have been recorded at petrol stations at
levels above the average levels...”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1354430/Petrol-station-Living-100m-garage-
bad-health.html#ixzz4ORKPauCi
“Benzene is known to cause cancer, based on evidence from studies in both people and
lab animals. The link between benzene and cancer has largely focused on leukemia and
other cancers of blood cells. “
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/intheworkplace/benzene
“Despite all the modern health and safety guidelines they must follow, gas stations can
still pose significant hazards to neighbors, especially children. Some of the perils include
ground-level ozone caused in part by gasoline fumes, groundwater hazards from
petroleum products leaking into the ground, and exposure hazards from other chemicals
that might be used at the station if it’s also a repair shop.”
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-it-safe-to-live-near-gas-station/
“The study, published in the Journal of Environmental Management, shows the air at
petrol stations and in their immediate surroundings is especially affected by emissions
stemming from evaporated vehicle fuels. This includes unburnt fuel from fuel loading and
unloading operations, refueling and liquid spillages.” And that distance “should therefore
be maintained between petrol stations and housing, especially vulnerable' facilities such
as hospitals, health centres, schools and old people's homes. “
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1354430/Petrol-station-Living-100m-garage-
bad-health.html#ixzz4ORKPauCi
I frequent the gas station on S. Eagle Rd., ~1.5 miles north from this proposed development,
and I can honestly say that every time I am there, there are always plenty of refueling stations
available regardless of the day or time. This gas station is also appropriately located in a
commercial area. There is absolutely no need to add a gas station next to the Tuscany
subdivision for convenience purposes, demand purposes and most especially for health
reasons.
Regarding the increased traffic congestion this will bring, as I understand it, there is no plan to
improve or widen S. Eagle Rd for a minimum of 4 years. These roads are already extremely
congested. It takes me up to 15 minutes to exit the Tuscany off Zaldia (main road out of
Tuscany to Eagle) to go 2.5 miles to the freeway each day. The round-about on S. Eagle Rd
and Amity is always backed up; neighbors complaining they wait trying to get in to the round, yet
this development will sit right in the heart of this congestion, with no improvement, but a
guarantee for it to become much worse.
The developer is pitching town homes behind the adjacent commercial property. Homes for sale
in Tuscany are currently listed at $250,000 - $450,000 with the majority of the homes in our
neighborhood overall on the higher end. Adjacent neighborhoods are very similar. An
appropriate development should keep in alignment with the level of existing neighborhoods, not
bring aesthetics and property values down in the community. Furthermore, “potential buyers”
are not going to want to neither see nor hear shopping center and fast food landscape and
noise, accompanied by bright overhead shopping center lighting and late night/early morning
deliveries from their town homes. The trickle effect of this is the dynamics of the residents
change, crime increases, safety decreases and existing property values drop.
I ask you to reject the commercial proposal, but regarding extending Mount Etna if commercial
is indeed approved, brings me grave concern. There are at least 5 existing entrances in/out of
Tuscany to main roads - S. Eagle Rd, Amity, Overland, Locust Grove - that were intentionally
built to be main entrances. These streets are purposefully wider, straighter and houses do not
face on to these streets. Mount Etna was not planned to be a main thoroughfare. It is a side
street, is not as wide, and has 2 corners and all houses face towards the street. We currently
live on one corner where Da Vinci and E. Mount Etna connect and I now see traffic cutting the
corner and increased speeding on a regular basis. Extending will further increase the volume of
traffic and will encourage those that who do not want to sit in the amplified traffic congestion to
cut through our neighborhood. It greatly concerns me for the safety of the MANY kids and
families that presently congregate to play, ride bikes, take walks and let pets roam in their front
yards on a daily basis. Furthermore, there were never any signs posted, temporary gates or
communication that this street was ever be extended in the future when we purchased our
home - as you see on other roads where signs or gates are known to residents - and that should
not change for this development. One more point, Mount Etna runs parallel to both Amity and
Zaldia (a Tuscany main entrance to S. Eagle Rd.) and sits 2 blocks either side of both. It takes
15 seconds from Mount Etna to reach either Amity or Zaldia, which there again, were both
intended to be main roads. There is absolutely no basis for needing to extend Mount Etna into
this development AND most especially when there are 2 current main roads within seconds that
can be traveled.
As of late, our subdivision has experienced minor theft and various other shenanigans.
Extending Mount Etna to S. Eagle Rd and next to a commercial development further invites
security issues straight into our neighborhood.
I respectfully ask for you to reject approving this commercial development and ask you to align
with the residents that currently live here that will have to deal with this for the long haul.
Commercial and residential property serve disparate purposes for a reason, thus, should be in
specific and separated localities. Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Suzanne Steenkolk
December 5, 2016
Dear Mr. Wong, Mr. Goldthorpe and Ms. Wallace - ACHD,
Ms, Tamara Thompson – Civil Engineer for Albertsons Development,
Mr. Caleb Hood and Mr. Josh Beach - Planning Commission
I am writing in regards to the Firenze Plaza proposed planned development on the corner of S.
Eagle Rd and Amity Rd, Meridian, ID planned for a December 14, 2016 ACHD hearing and
December 15, 2016 Planning and Zoning meeting. I have serious concerns with the proposal to
extend Mount Etna, Burgo Way and/or Taormina – all Tuscany subdivision side roads, not
intended to be connector roads - in to the proposed commercial development. Also concerns
with the guaranteed future traffic congestion this will cause to S. Eagle Rd and Amity with no
improvement plan for four years.
We learned tonight, in the 12/5/16 meeting at Siena school between our neighborhood and the
development Civil Engineer, Tamara Thompson, Albertsons Rep and Kittelson & Associates
representative that they are being required by ACHD, per a rule that ACHD has imposed, to
include connector roads from our neighborhood to their development. This seems very counter
to what you, Mr. Wong, communicated to us in our meeting when the same group of residents
met with you at Siena school a few weeks ago. At that time we communicated to you a very
strong message that we did not want any of our streets connecting in and we wanted a barrier
put up between our subdivision and the proposed residential homes in the development. We
also presented numerous commercial/grocery store properties across the Treasure Valley that
do not meet this connector road requirement. Tonight, when the same group of residents voiced
the same concerns and barrier solution, the developer seemed to generally be OK with this
request, and communicated that ACHD is requiring them to do this in order for this to get
approved by your staff to proceed with the hearing. Mr. Wong, you and your staff have the
authority to propose to P&Z and both ACHD and P&Z together, to propose to the City Council,
not to require connector streets. I felt that in tonight’s meeting, generally speaking, if we can
come to a compromise to not connect any subdivision roads in, create a barrier between the
development and our subdivision that matches the current aesthetics of our property, and
ensure the proposed residential section of the development will be single level homes - not
apartments or townhomes - this seems to shut down the majority of our residents’ concerns. I
also felt I heard that if there was a walking or bike path neighbors could use to connection in,
residents would agree to that as well. Please listen to us, support us and act on our
request!
CONCERNS THIS TRAFFIC STUDY DOES NOT TAKE IN TO ACCOUNT: I read the traffic
study and addendum by Kittelson & Associates Inc. and also had a lengthy conversation with
the Kittelson representative at tonight’s meeting. Below are my concerns that the traffic study
does not take in to account:
1. Multiple neighbors on Burgo Way and Mount Etna say the traffic tubes that were placed
in front of their homes were there for less than a full day. “Hours” does not constitute a
“study.” Please confirm through documentation that they met the requirements and
please reply to me with what days and times the tubes were in effect. The gentleman
that spearheaded the traffic study from Kittelson said the requirement is 24-hours.
Statistically, this is also not an acceptable period of time to do any kind of thorough
review.
2. A neighborhood pool resides on Burgo Way and most everyone walks to the pool from
Taormina, Mount Etna, Santo Stefano, Zaldia, among other streets. This pool is one
block from the entry of the proposed development on the north side. This pool probably
exceeds acceptable capacity all summer.
3. I asked the Kittelson representative if he monitored the bus stops. There was no
consideration for the safety and number of children that walk and scooter to the bus
stops. Nor the number of children crossing over the proposed connector roads to get
these stops. Furthermore, I mentioned this concern to Tamara Thompson, who seemed
surprised to learn about the number of children utilizing the bus stops and I answered
questions she had on this topic. I personally do not have kids in school yet, but I care
strongly about this important situation so I’ve spent some of my personal time sitting at
the bus stops and evaluating the locations. I mainly focused on Montague/Amity and
Zaldia/S Eagle Rd. There are 4 main bus stop locations on Montague, Zaldia, Rome and
E. Palermo for Tuscany. There are a total of 16 pick-up/drop-offs per day (two per
location both AM/PM) depending if children are elementary, middle or high school
student and where they are heading. A school bus driver familiar with this route
communicated to me that she confidently estimates 400 children in our neighborhood
getting on the bus between these four bus stop locations.
4. No consideration was given in the study to the numerous children and families that walk
pets, ride bikes and scooters or push strollers and cross these four streets to get to our
neighborhood Renaissance Park. Countless families congregate to play in the park,
throw the ball to their dogs or attend sports practices. To the sports practices point,
Renaissance Park is a city park so it is common to see football, soccer and lacrosse
practice occurring here. Anywhere from 5-7 teams practice daily in the spring and fall
and utilize the main connector roads to come in/out of our subdivision. Now with Burgo,
Montague, Mount Etna and/or Taormina becoming potential collector roads, this further
emphasizes the spider effect of drivers winding through our neighborhood where they
would not have driven these streets otherwise. They should continue to utilize the
connector streets that were designed for frequent traffic. ACHD’s rules are creating the
increase in re-routed and new trip ADTs of future traffic throughout our neighborhood.
I realize that you may be thinking that you understand the child safety situation, as every
subdivision has children. But I am genuinely telling you that unless you actually live in
our neighborhood or take the time to come observe our streets, most especially in the
warmer months, you truly cannot appreciate why so many of us a expressing grave
concern to ACHD and P&Z with real seriousness for the safety of our children and
increased traffic in our neighborhood. The child activity outdoors is a real differentiator in
our neighborhood as compared to other neighborhoods. It is our culture for kids to be
very active in our streets, especially with a neighborhood elementary school, park,
multiple pools and families that actively engage outside in their front yards and streets
and have built strong relationships with neighboring families.
When the weather is warm in the spring and fall, our streets are literally FILLED with kids
in large packs riding their bikes together, scootering or walking to school crossing
through our neighborhood like spiders. Just as often, I see parents with bike strollers
attached to their bike riding with smaller groups of kids to school or the park too.
5. This traffic study also does not take into account the safety of our neighborhood that
would line a commercial property with easy access into the neighborhood from a theft
and safety standpoint. On November 29, 2016, a woman walking to her car in a
shopping center parking lot near Westpark and North Milwaukee in Boise was attacked.
That is a well-lit and very public area. We should all be concerned about this same thing
occurring in our location, most especially with our high-end neighborhood wide open to a
commercial property, and decreased public visibility by comparison to other commercial
centers. In the past 6 months alone, our neighborhood has experienced packages being
stolen off of homeowner’s front doorsteps, strangers trying to break in to yard gates and
theft in cars parked in driveways. I want to live in neighborhood where I can raise my
kids in a safe environment and feel comfortable being home alone. We don’t need to
further invite unwanted strangers in by giving them easy access through extending our
streets in and out of a commercial property.
MY OWN TRAFFIC EVALUATION: On Friday, 12/2 from 2:30pm – 3:15pm, 4:00pm-4:45pm
and Monday, 12/5 from 7:30am-8:00am, I chose to do my own mini traffic evaluation. I selected
these times because this is when the kids on the south end of our subdivision get on/off buses.
Between these days, I was able to hit two bus stop times. But as aforementioned, there are
actually 8 bus stop times between the 4 Tuscany locations in both the AM, and again in PM.
Parked on the corner of Montague and Mount Etna, I observed the following. See pictures
below as examples.
On Friday, 12/2, there were a lot of kids getting off of the bus walking to their houses
from S. Eagle Rd down Zaldia and also at the corner of Amity and Montague. I
believe this might have been the high school drop off time and also a Friday
afternoon, so makes sense this was a little less you’d expect in numbers than the
elementary and middle school times. I counted 15 kids from the bus. The kids
walking from S. Eagle down Zaldia were walking towards Burgo towards the corner
where the community pool is ahead. The kids on Montague had to cross through
Taormina and Mount Etna coming from the other bus stop. A second set of children
came from North Montague walking together and one scootering and also crossed
through Santo Stefano and Mount Etna to turn up Mount Etna or Taormina. While I
was watching this, I waved to at least 10 separate drivers in about 10 minutes time
arriving home from picking their kids up from school and turning on to the south block
of Mount Etna. Those children that would likely walk or ride bikes to school in warmer
weather.
While waiting, one pick-up truck passed by me on Montague that was excessively
speeding and traffic was also surprisingly fairly constant on Montague. I saw several
cars turning off of Amity on to Montague and turning in to the oncoming traffic lane of
Montague (out of what should be their lane) because the turn is very sharp and
Montague is narrow. It was not designed to be a collector road, it is slender and
there is absolutely no median space or parking as it exists today.
I was watching the traffic flow on S. Eagle Rd and Amity on Friday, and
unexpectedly, I noticed it was backed up and stopped numerous times at the round-
about. At rush hour this is very common frustration for those of us that live in this
location, but the pictures below are from non-peak hours. Each picture depicts
separate situations with a different set of cars stopped each time. Several of the
pictures have cars stopped 9-10 deep.
When I left at 3:15pm I drove to Zaldia and S. Eagle Rd to head north on S. Eagle
Rd. to drive past Siena school trying to see if the next set of buses were picking up
yet. I made several loops past the Siena school through our neighborhood back to S.
Eagle Rd. Each time, I sat multiple minutes trying to turn left on to S. Eagle Rd since
finding an opening to turn has now become a challenge since traffic has noticeably
increased now that Century Farms, the new middle school and the neighboring new
subdivision have gone in. Additionally, as I stopped on S. Eagle Rd to wait to turn left
onto Rome (2nd main connector road in/out of Tuscany and Siena School) a driver
who was by law supposed to stop and wait behind me didn’t slow down and instead
veered out of our lane and in to the gravel median to go around me. She barely
missed hitting the right side of my car which not only would have caused a wreck
between she and I, but would have pushed us into the other lane of ongoing traffic
that was passing me, and four cars waiting on Rome. There is no turn lane there, yet
drivers do turn. But because of the constant oncoming traffic from Victory, it holds up
traffic coming from Amity should someone want to access Rome. People get
impatient and I see this happen to other drivers all of the time. It’s a serious traffic
issue and needs to be fixed.
Monday morning, 12/5, I stood at the Montague/Amity middle school bus stop with
21 kids waiting there and 4 cars parked with children staying inside their warm
vehicles. The kids at that bus stop told me there are double that amount of kids that
get on the same bus around the corner at Zaldia and S. Eagle. I’ve already
mentioned a bus driver who is familiar with this route estimated Tuscany stops to be
400 kids that frequent the buses. This should be strongly considered when you are
evaluating extending our neighborhood streets and re-routing traffic into our
neighborhood directly where volumes of children are walking and standing.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY: The report says that Mount Etna will
see <25 new ADT’s predominantly from re-routed trips. Honestly, this is laughable. We have
1100 houses in Tuscany. On the conservative side, if even one-third of the Tuscany residents
now choose to take Mount Etna or Taormina as a proposed connector road, that immensely
increases the ATDs, and it is not 25. I spoke to the Kittleson rep about this and his comment
was not everyone goes to the grocery store every day. But we were told that Albertsons wants
to make this a community friendly location and of course they want to make money. So if there
were hypothetically to be a bank, gas station, yogurt shop, grocery store, coffee shop, wine bar
or anything else that is similar and family friendly, folks are going to visit this location more than
1 time per week, and likely several times per week or several times per day. Otherwise there is
no reason for Albertsons to want to invest if people are not going to regularly frequent their
establishments. Furthermore, these are residents who would have never driven on Mount Etna
otherwise. They would be using our intended connector roads - Zaldia and Rome - to get to S.
Eagle Rd., which are wide and purposefully, do not have homes facing in to them. Zaldia and
Rome is how all of us in Tuscany currently travel to reach S. Eagle Rd today and it works
perfectly as intended.
The four proposed streets are narrower and all have houses facing towards the street where our
connector streets purposely do not. Mount Etna was never posted to be a “street to be extended
in the future” and all of us purchased on Mount Etna with this expectation. We wanted to live on
a quiet and safe side street. If we can’t trust the “to be extended” signage when anyone is
purchasing a home, then there is a major flaw in the system. To close on this point, on a
personal note, when I want to get to Locust Grove, the most direct route from my house would
be to exit our subdivision on Montague and Amity. But I always cut through our subdivision and
head north to get there, even though it is a slower speed limit, I have to take 6 turns and cross
over 4 different streets. This is exactly what is going to happen to Mount Etna or Taormina if it is
connected. Moreover, I live on the corner of where Da Vinci and Mount Etna connect and we
already have drivers speeding and cutting the corner into the other lane on a regular basis.
Finally, the study states there will not be any “new trips” on Mount Etna. This is not reality. FOR
SURE drivers are going to cut through our neighborhood. It is human nature to want to “keep
moving”, not sit in stopped traffic. Also, surrounding neighborhoods north, east and west of us
that currently GO NORTH for groceries, gas, banks etc., will now begin to come to our
intersection. Pile that on top of only being able to take right turns out of the commercial property,
clearly these cars are going to be taking Montague, Mount Etna or Taormina to turn back and
cutting through our neighborhood. There are a million reasons why extending our streets in to
this development is a terrible decision.
I understand from tonight’s meeting that the developer will be providing $1.3 million to widen S.
Eagle and Amity where there are entry/exit points off of these roads along their property and to
include the round-about on Amity. Is there no way that ACHD can prioritize the rest of these
roads to Victory and Locust Grove and improve them in parallel? Many of us have commented
to one another we purchased on S. Eagle Rd because we do not want to live on the disaster
that has become N. Eagle Rd. There needs to be a better plan to keep up with the road
systems and a solution is not to resolve the lack of funding or planning by funneling traffic back
in to our neighborhoods.
I respectfully ask for you to PLEASE SUPPORT US; the numerous neighbors that have signed
petitions, are writing you and speaking up in strong objection of ACHD and P&Z approving
extending our neighborhood streets into this property. We ask you to reject the proposal to
extend the streets and require the developer to put up an appropriate barrier that clearly blocks
the development from our neighborhood and also matches the landscape and aesthetics of our
neighborhood. Please also carefully and realistically assess the congestion this development is
going to cause with no improvement to S. Eagle Rd for 4 years. Please either (1) re-prioritize
the timing of improving S. Eagle Rd and Amity that ACHD is responsible for and do not make it
our neighborhoods problem (2) start taxing and/or requiring developers to help fund total road
improvements for entire blocks/miles of access where their developments cause increased
traffic, not just in front of their establishments (3) reject or defer the plans until our roads can
keep up with the traffic. There are other locations where land is for sale that have much better
access for this type of commercial property - Meridian Rd and Amity being one available now.
We are the people that live here, know our neighborhood and thoroughly understand the
impacts this is going to pose. We will have to deal with this for the long haul, well after the
developer has made his profit and moved on. Commercial and residential property serve
disparate purposes for a reason, thus, should be in specific and separated localities and it
should not be the responsibility of neighborhoods to absorb the traffic impacts. Thank you for
your consideration.
Sincerely,
Suzanne Steenkolk
PICTURES:
BUS STOP 12/5 7:50AM – 21 KIDS WAITING AND 4 CARS PARKED
SIGNIFICANT DIFFERNECE IN TUSCANY DESIGNED CONNECTOR RD TO S. EAGLE RD.
vs. SIDE STREET MOUNT ETNA. (Pic 1 - Zaldia, Pic 2 - Mount Etna)
CORNER OF MOUNT ETNA AND MONTAGUE FACING AMITY. You can see Amity is just
yards away and is the current connector road, so no need to extend Mount Etna or Taormina
when people can get to Amity in one block (15 seconds by my own driving.) Also Montague is
very narrow and no parking available.
BURGO WAY AT NEIGHBORHOOD POOL. Standing on the corner of Burgo Way and Zaldia
where neighborhood pool is located. Pool is 1 block from proposed location where motor home
parked.
TRAFFIC BACKED UP AND STOPPED ON BOTH S. EAGLE RD AND AMITY. Numerous
times this occurred. Each picture depicts separate situations with a different set of cars
stopped.
INTERSECTION ZALDIA AND S. EAGLE RD. Pictures illustrate constant traffic coming
from both directions taken both ways within seconds of each other. Trying to turn left out
of subdivision on to S. Eagle Rd to head north. (Pic 1 – traffic from Victory to Amity, Pic 2
- Amity towards Victory)