Ron and Kathryn Porter1
Charlene Way
From:Ron Porter <rporter_9@yahoo.com>
Sent:Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:44 PM
To:City Clerk
Subject:H 2017-0151 P&Z Copper Point Apts
Attachments:H-2017-0151 Copper Point Apartmets.pdf
Please forward these comments to Meridian Planning and Zoning for the hearing on December 21, 2017
Thanks you
Ron and Kathryn Porter
Ron and Kathryn Porter
3580 E Quin Drive
Meridian Idaho 83642
208 870 5622
rporter_9
@yahoo .com
December 14, 2017
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission
clerk@meridiancity.org
RE Application H-2017-0151 by McMaster Limited Partnership
We have lived in Southerland Downs subdivision since 2005 and will be negatively impacted if
the proposed Conditional Use Permit is approved for the construction of 124 multi -family
dwellings on Copper Point Drive. Except for the irrigation canal, our property directly borders
this land on Copper Point.
In October we attended presentation by the developer to the area residents and object to any
zoning change that would allow the construction of apartments on the proposed site. Our
objections are as follows:
When we purchased our home in 2005 we knew what the surrounding zoning was and
expected it not to be changed. If it is now allowed to be changed by the new owners of
the 10.68 acres, what is the point of any zoning rules if they can so easily get it changed?
2. With >500 new dwellings in Movado what is wrong with the current balance between
commercial and residential in this area? Let's wait and see how bad the impact of
Movado is before adding another 124 units on such a small piece of land.
3. The presentation in October by the developer's agent or employee was half hearted as
best. We came as property owners yet the owner of the proposed development sent a
representative who committed to as little as possible We came away from that meeting
not trusting that what was presented would be anywhere close to finished project. If
granting a zoning change is so easy and expected what is to say the final product will be
changed from what we were able to briefly see at that October Meeting.
4. In part we are objecting because of the comments by the developer's agent or
employee to the homeowners that current zoning would allow a 4 story building on the
property. The clear inference was that the homeowners should not be against their
application, or else.
5. Next to us and this proposed apartment complex is the Southerland Farms Subdivision.
Those residents will be negatively affected by the south bound traffic this proposed
project will generate for access to Cloverdale, Victory and the traffic light at Eagle Road
and Easy Jet. The light at Goldstone and Eagle Road is not accessible from Copper Point.
At busy times of the day a left hand turn at Copper Point and Eagle is impossible which
make Easy Jet the only safe option to access Eagle Road.
6. Muir Woods Subdivision will also be negatively affected by the traffic generated by the
new Movado Subdivision for all access to Cloverdale. As of now there is no way to
measure how badly Muir Woods will be affected but another 124 dwelling will make it
that much worse.
7. Southerland Farms Subdivision has been a good neighborhood for Meridian. Not only
are they high value homes but the HOA has been active in improving the road way
landscaping and their community park. The end result has been best the City could have
hoped for when the City required the developers of Southerland Farms to create that
park. Their park is about 500 feet from this proposed apartment complex and it is
extremely likely the apartment residents and their pets will take full advantage of
Southerland Farms Park. Given that the Southerland Farms residents failed to prevail on
any Cloverdale access for Movado Development they will not sit back and let the
apartment residents have free use of their park. Don't expect them to be such good
neighbors going forward. Expect NO TRESPASSING signs in their park and lots of
neighborhood disputes.
Due to the timing of this hearing, 3 days before Christmas, the date the hearing notice
was posted on the property and our lack of trust in the developer, we have no faith this
apartment project will match the quality in the surrounding commercial development
and subdivisions.
If approved, we expect our property values and quality of life will be adversely affected
by this zoning change and subsequent apartment complex.
Sincerely
Ron and Kathryn Porter
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3580 E Quin Drive
Meridian Idaho 83642
208 870 5622
rporter_9
@yahoo .com
February 20, 2018
Meridian City Council
clerk@meridiancity.org
RE Application H-2017-0151 by McMaster Limited Partnership
We have lived in Sutherland Downs subdivision since 2005 and will be negatively impacted if
the proposed Conditional Use Permit is approved for the construction of 124 multi -family
dwellings on10.68 acres on Copper Point Drive. Except for the irrigation canal, our property
directly borders this parcel on Copper Point.
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attended the P&Z hearing in late December. We object to any zoning change that would allow
the construction of apartments on the proposed site. Our objections are as follows:
1. When we purchased our home in 2005 we knew what the adjacent zoning was and
expected it not to be changed. We especially didn't expect it to be changed to allow for
an apartment complex that will be significantly denser than any of the surrounding
neighborhoods. If the zoning change requested is now allowed to be changed by the
new owners of the 10.68 acres, what is the point of any zoning rules if they can so easily
get it changed? As a long time Meridian resident do we have any protection?
2. Three upscale subdivisions border the proposed site of the Copper Point Apartments,
Sutherland Downs, Sutherland Farms and Movado. All three paid (or will pay) for
landscaped bike paths, landscaped roadways and true park -like open space. All three
subdivisions have a comparable investment and maintenance costs for those
enhancements and amenities that make the larger neighborhood an attractive place to
live.
In contrast the open space proposed for the Copper Point Apartments is the space
between buildings which will all be surrounded by a fence. If these apartments are
approved the developer will get by with the absolute minimum investment in the
neighborhood. On top of that unfairness, he will be allowed the maximum density which
is inconsistent with the 1/3 acre lots in Sutherland Farms and Movado. He'll have no
investment or maintenance expense for bike paths or true parks. His project will add
nothing of positive value to the neighborhood. Only 125 more non -owner households
that will have free use our parks and the community bike paths.
For example, the Sutherland Farms Park is less than 500 feet from this proposed
apartment complex and it is very predictable that the apartment residents and their
pets will take full advantage of the private Sutherland Farms Park.
If approved, we expect our property values and quality of life will be adversely affected by the
significant density increase that this zoning change would allow.
Sincerely
Ron and Kathryn Porter
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REVISED NOTICE
CITY OF MERIDIAN NOTICE OF HEARING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City
of Meridian will hold a public hearing at Meridian City Hall, 33
E. Broadway Ave, Meridian, Idaho at 6:00 p.m. on Tuesday,
February 27, 2018 for the purpose of reviewing and
considering the application H-2017-0151 By McMaster
Limited Partnership to Request an Conditional Use
Permit Consisting of 124 Multi -Family Dwelling Units on
Approximately 10.68 Acres in an Existing C -G Zoning District
and a Preliminary Plat Consistino of .1 F Multi -Family Building
Lots, 4 Common Lots and 2 Other Lots om 10.68 Acres in and
Existing C -G Zoning District for Harper Ridge Subdivision
Located at 3885 E Copper Point Drive
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